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Post by madnellie on Jul 30, 2022 1:23:14 GMT
Millwall away:
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Post by madnellie on Jul 22, 2022 21:22:45 GMT
Pretty sure I read he had alopecia. Genuinely didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Chris Rock is a Stokie
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Post by madnellie on Jul 14, 2022 0:21:51 GMT
The real questions, however, are: What ice cream is musik eating? How is madnellie getting on with the Mt Rushmore project on the Roaches, and in particular carving out an image of Stina Blackstenius? I can't comment on Musik's ice cream, (although I'm excited to learn the answer) but I'm thrilled to report the monument to Stina is almost ready to move out of the design phase into the carving and chiseling phase.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 13, 2022 23:41:22 GMT
Exactly. And people wonder why sexual abuse, especially when the victims are boys or men is so under reported. It's easier to stay quiet than deal with all that victim blaming, "oh they didn't mean it that way" claptrap. The system is set up to doubt the victim at every turn. And whether you can prove a sexual aspect or not, it's obviously affecting the victims way more than a standard physical assault like a punch in the face would. Nellie, you've hit the nail on the head. I was a victim on a few occasions when I was 8/9 initially & even now in my early 50s the sound of aluminium walking sticks which I associate with the person who abused me, sends shivers down my spine. Physical pain might well go away but mental scars never heal I'm so sorry you had to go through that my friend. And I'm even more sorry that you have to read some of the utter bollocks from people are fortunate enough to have no idea what it feels like. Much love to you.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 10, 2022 17:16:38 GMT
If you read the article what the witness states is that deep heat was placed on or between his bottom cheeks. That's different than putting your finger up somebody's backside. Yes it would be classed as bullying today and not acceptable but to say that it was done for any sort of sexual gratification is just ridiculous. The players allegedly involved weren't sexual perverts they were lads in their early 20's horsing around in a dressing room at a time when bullying, racism etc was common place and accepted as normal. I knew Mr Blackstock during his time at Stoke and George would have sold is Grandmother for a £5. I don't doubt that horse play occurred but I would stake my life on the fact that if there was only going to be a criminal prosecution and not a civil one where there was a potential for some serious money to be made nobody would have heard a whisper from Mr Blackstock. Sexual abusers don't do it for sexual gratification. Exactly. And people wonder why sexual abuse, especially when the victims are boys or men is so under reported. It's easier to stay quiet than deal with all that victim blaming, "oh they didn't mean it that way" claptrap. The system is set up to doubt the victim at every turn. And whether you can prove a sexual aspect or not, it's obviously affecting the victims way more than a standard physical assault like a punch in the face would.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 9, 2022 19:16:48 GMT
Sexual assaults (which is what both this and the Glove are) are very rarely about sex and almost always about power. Either way it has the same impact on the victims. Definitely assault but you would need to prove some sexual gratification or other link of a sexual nature to the incident. This kind of incident would not automatically be sexual assault just because it involves an intimate part of the body. A person can be guilty of sexual assault by touching a person's hair it's to do with the nature of the touching not where the touching is on a person's body. But this is literally penetrating someone. Inserting a finger into someone's anus is assault by penetration which is, by legal definition, a sexual offence.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 8, 2022 18:54:18 GMT
When the hell was our ex physio from the time put on the bloody sex offenders list? Also, the cynic in me makes me wonder why he waited until 2008 to go public about this. Merely coincidence that the club had become awash with cash after two decades of being skint. Who would pay his compensation if some were granted, out of interest? And finally, I believe the bloke. I’m just suspicious of his motives. Yep I was suprised about Keith Rowley being on the offenders list myself, never made the news to my knowledge and I'm 99% sure he was even given a picture slot on the memorial board feature on the big screen following his death a year or so ago! Shocking really with that revelation in the article. A physio with them tendencies ingrained into a football club in the 80's would of been a wrongun's paradise! As for the waiting to bring these issues out into the open. For the exact details listed in this article I'd say, even at a civil hearing the complainant was kind of believed, but outnumbered by alleged offenders who were singing off the same hymn sheet so was deemed to be not being factual in his exact account, that kind of reaction and outcome certainly wouldn't encourage you to come forward when you get labelled a lier by association and being over dramatic. Seeing the likes of Paul Stewart and the other Man City players come forward when they did, its certainly not about financial reward, its about breaking free from the horrors and violations they've been carrying around with them for all the years without being able to do anything about it. I honestly don't think even a large financial package would ever get anywhere near compensating these poor lads that were abused in the youth stages of their footy careers. I gather Blackstock has tried on numerous occasions to get his story told and believed and fair play to him for having the conviction to seek justice for the harm he had to encounter. Its far easier to stay mute than to speak out, especially about something as degrading as his account details. I can't even begin to believe that my boyhood hero's were capable of doing such acts nevermind comprehend them doing them to lads who would of been around the same age as me at that time when I used to stand on the terraces watching them. But on reflection, if they were, they weren't initiation rituals, it's sounds like they were done as punishments. Not saying one is right and one is wrong, far from it, but joiningnnew club rituals are generally accepted and are things that have always happened when players joined new clubs. Doing something as a punishment is pure bullying and clearly crosses the line even before the events taken place as it's premeditated. Noel Blake used to make plenty of mistakes on the pitch, I can't imagine he was ever subjected to such events! The young and impressionable and lads who had something to prove were sadly clearly fair game! On reflection, had I been at Stoke and subjected to the 'exact' events described would I have spoken out at the time, no probably not, I'd of likely just accepted it as something that happened and all before me had gone through the same. Now times have changed would I speak out now and assist this investigation, yes I firmly believe I would, if hadn't already done so. High jinx and having a laugh is one thing, the details of the events involved are just wrong on all levels It hurts doesn't it. Foxy lived near me when I was a kid. Absolutely loved the bloke.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 8, 2022 18:52:56 GMT
Sorry but when it comes to this topic you clearly don't have a clue. Why because I don’t think what you think? No, because what you're saying isn't factual. It's not personal. You can think what you want, that's absolutely up to you but it doesn't mean it's correct and shouldn't be challenged. We already know why people wait years to report sexual abuse. The studies are all out there.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 8, 2022 18:46:53 GMT
Maybe it was left 10 years because there are people to this day saying nobody died, live with it? This happened in 1986. I'm not sure when sticking your finger up someone's arse without their consent was first considered an abusive act but I'm pretty sure it was before then and having been there "back in the day" I'm also pretty sure it wasn't considered something anyone should have to put up with even then. Apart from apologists for abusers in positions of power. The "back in the day defence" is an abusers dream - doesn't matter what abuse your perpetrate it's fine because - guess what - it happened back in the day. And nobody died. So all's good. What can I get away with next? I’m not saying it’s right and you’re wrong it’s just my take on it. I lived through it all and was comfortable with it. I live in the world as it is today and am comfortable with that too. People did things back in the day that were in hindsight clearly over the top bullying, some of the acts also in hindsight had a sexual connotation which I can’t say I saw at the time. Whether the perpetrators realised the sexual abuse element at the time I couldn’t really tell you. I just thought of it as bullying which was very widespread. Sorry but when it comes to this topic you clearly don't have a clue.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 8, 2022 18:44:37 GMT
Is there anything sexual? Yes, the banana in the arse sounds quite sexual. If they wanted to do something that wasn’t sexual, there are plenty of ways to beat up/humiliate a young person. “A power play that has gone too far”, nope if true, it was sexual assault. Edit: it’s also this kind of crap that makes me laugh at statements about society never being worse etc. That couldn’t have anything to do with the fact that so much more was left underreported and worse, swept under the rug. well yes a banana up the arse is overtly sexual but was it done for sexual perks or as a display of power for the abuser and humiliation for the victim is the question? im more leaning to the second one like the old pink arse punishment routine where players would bend over bare cheeks on show and have penalties blasted at the arse for transgressions, is there a sexual element too it, yes, but was it done for sexual thrills, no! its using sexuality as a tool of embarrassment maybe im completely being naïve about this and trying to ignore the worst but i refuse to believe every single dressing room was full of sexual predators who were all closeted homosexuals with an interest in young boys Sexual assaults (which is what both this and the Glove are) are very rarely about sex and almost always about power. Either way it has the same impact on the victims.
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Post by madnellie on Jul 2, 2022 17:24:40 GMT
Very sad. He took the “There’s only two Andy Gorams” chant in good spirits too. What’s happened to him? A short battle with cancer according to the report I saw, Badge.
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Post by madnellie on Jun 26, 2022 0:43:00 GMT
He was, until he started being too nice in the 2010 World Cup Final, which ruined the game, and his reputation. Spain Holland? Can't remember what happened DeJong went in studs up on Alonso's stomach. Webb gave a yellow. I didn't think it was THAT much of controversial decision and I thought he did a really good job overall.
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Post by madnellie on May 20, 2022 12:41:54 GMT
No idea what that means. Am sure not those things you look through then decide not to answer the door It’s where they cut a hole in the shirt where the nipples protrude. Although I’d never be so bold as to say something so outlandishly sexist on a public forum of course I dunno Badge, I laughed so much reading it I spat my tea out 🤣
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Post by madnellie on May 18, 2022 15:49:56 GMT
Idrissa Gueye, Chiekhou Kouyata & Ismailia Sarr all disgraces. Shouldn’t be anywhere near the game. Well done Jake Daniels. And the actions of the 3 dirts above shows exactly why it’s such a big and courageous move. You would think, being Black themselves, they would understand prejudice and not want anyone else to suffer that. Can't see past the end of their noses, entitled idiots.
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Post by madnellie on May 16, 2022 21:16:22 GMT
So what! Never quite sure what the hell it has to do with his job. Not sure why we need to know. And that is why he needed to come out. Well said Skip. And also because if you don't come out everyone assumes you're straight and it's exhausting having to correct people every single day of your life. I lost count of number of times people saw my wedding ring and asked what my husband did for a living. The world still starts from the point of assuming everyone is heterosexual until they say otherwise. Until that changes people will still have to come out, or lie every time someone asks about their home life.
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Post by madnellie on May 3, 2022 19:06:12 GMT
Prices for Chelsea WSL HOME MATCH TICKET PRICES £9 adults £1 juniors and seniors £0 personal assistant FA CUP HOME MATCH TICKET PRICES £9 adults £1 juniors and seniors £0 personal assistant FA WSL CUP HOME MATCH TICKET PRICES £3 adults £1 juniors and seniors £0 personal assistant Not sure what a personal assistant is but that’s very cheap in comparison to the mens game. Highest home attendance 3,330 (vs. Arsenal, 11 February 2022, FA WSL) Capacity is 4850 Which suggests even when they’re practically giving tickets away they can’t fill AFC Wimbledons stadium. I’m amazed that with the revenue they’re getting that they can still afford to keep running. Like mens football the majority must come from TV. The personal assistant is someone who is helping a person with a disability.
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Post by madnellie on Apr 17, 2022 16:24:24 GMT
The Roundabout was the best pre-match venue I've ever been to What an absolutely perfect day. The Bolton fans were class too, shaking our hands and singing the Wanky Wanderers song after the game.
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Post by madnellie on Apr 11, 2022 2:15:38 GMT
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Clucas
Apr 3, 2022 16:39:03 GMT
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Post by madnellie on Apr 3, 2022 16:39:03 GMT
Heard yesterday that he’s been told that he can leave in the summer if he finds another club on a free. PLIBT
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Post by madnellie on Apr 2, 2022 14:43:44 GMT
I’ve heard of Maundy Thursday and Easter Sunday but what part of the Christian Calendar is Black Friday? It's the day where they try to commit each of the seven deadly sins at least once in a 24hr period. With an extra emphasis on greed and envy
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Post by madnellie on Mar 17, 2022 22:39:01 GMT
Thank you for support, friends. Here in Ukraine we do feel it. Sorry for not posting too often. Hard to find words. Disaster. russian fascists must be stopped. I don't know how people can do such things. they kill civilians. Women, children. Mariupol, Kharkiv, Chernihiv... Having very big losses in fights with Ukrainian army, they started using their dirty Syrian tacktics: bombing and shelling from distance. And they bomb peaceful cities and villages. I am sure you follow the news. It is impossible, just impossible to describe or explain what is going on here. Please, help Ukraine and help World to stop russian hitler now. Let us stay really united. Glory to Ukraine🇺🇦 It's really good to hear from you Den. I can't even comprehend what you must be going through. You and the people of Ukraine are in my thoughts and prayers and you have my support in any practical way I can help too. We'll be with you ❤️🇺🇦
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Post by madnellie on Mar 12, 2022 1:27:41 GMT
Leeds and Arsenal were universally hated in the ‘70s because of their physical style. Bremner, Hunter and Giles for Leeds were dreadful. Ure and Storey for Aresenal were worse. Ure didn’t even know how to play football. He could sing a bit though. OVNR. That means nothing to me mate.
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Post by madnellie on Mar 11, 2022 4:50:39 GMT
The latest target for women’s football is average gates of 6,000 in the WSL. Yet, while the league was averaging a promising 3,000 in 2019-20, attendances have subsequently been in retreat. 715 attended Aston Villa at home to Chelsea, or the 502 at Everton’s match with Brighton this season. Attendances in the Women’s Super League are actually going down, despite all the free promotion on the BBC. Isn't that the same for every sport, thanks to COVID?
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Post by madnellie on Mar 11, 2022 0:54:41 GMT
Something retro about this thread. A throw back to a happier time when folks would regularly visit other people message boards and give it the large one. More of this please! I also miss fans coming on from the different countries of the new players we signed, or even teams we played in Europe. Halcyon days my friend.
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Post by madnellie on Mar 10, 2022 0:32:43 GMT
Thanks for the update Ange. We'll be with you, Den.
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Post by madnellie on Mar 10, 2022 0:16:21 GMT
Out, but with a heavy heart.
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Post by madnellie on Mar 7, 2022 1:00:07 GMT
For background, please see this thread. oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/299542/inserting-tension-familyThis is the only place I feel like I can say these things because of the anonymity. I gave birth a week ago. I had a Caesarean section with complications and am in a shitload of pain, so my husband has been taking care of the baby. Breastfeeding has been a failure because of low milk production. I have been pumping 8 times a day and get around 40mL total in a day. An average mother would get that much in one session. A lactation consultant is visiting in a few days. My biggest problems are emotional. I don't feel attached to the child at all. I would never hurt her, but I don't feel any connection with her. While my husband is doting on her, I would rather be in another room washing breast pump parts and sterilizing bottles. I still feel so sad about the situation with my family, and maybe that's preventing me from being emotionally available for my daughter. About an hour ago I broke down in tears again just as my daughter started wailing for seemingly no reason yet again. I felt too emotionally drained to try to comfort her. I don't know what to do. Duck, please have a chat with your doctor or midwife. I'm not a doctor but it sounds like you might have post partum depression. It's very, very common. I've not had kids myself but I've had friends who have suffered from it and what you wrote sounds so very similar to how they felt, especially with not feeling like they were bonding with their baby. Please, please talk to a professional about how you're feeling, I absolutely GUARANTEE they will have heard it before and will be able to help you start to feel better and bond with the little one. We'll be with you both, every step along the way duck.
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Post by madnellie on Mar 5, 2022 20:27:46 GMT
It’s woeful Rob and unfortunately it’s not a one off I’ve been on the fence until today but enough is enough he’s got to go I’m sliding towards the same feeling mate. Me too. Today is the first time I've really wanted him gone. We shouldn't be playing like we did today with the players we have, it's an all too familiar story.
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Post by madnellie on Mar 5, 2022 18:28:58 GMT
Pretty sure you can't actually bet online with credit cards in the UK. Seem to remember there being a bit of a thing about that a few years back. Never understood why so many are against gambling, because it does fall into that same category as drink. But then I personally think drugs should be legalised & taxed anyway. Everything ruins peoples lives if taken too far. People ruin their lives over spending on clothes, booking holidays they can't afford etc. You can walk into a supermarket and buy a lethal amount of alcohol for 1 sitting and no one bats an eye. This. As most on here know I'm an alcoholic (sober for a good while now) and I can't say I'm looking forward to getting drenched in beer in the concourse the next time I'm over for a game, but I'm not advocating banning booze. Addiction sucks but it's about the issues the person has, not the substance or activity itself. We need less stigma around addiction, more acceptance of, and respect towards those who choose not to drink/gamble/use drugs etc, and more opportunities for people to get help. What we do not need, in my opinion, is the arbitrary banning of things that many people enjoy safely and in moderation. As for Denise, she pays her fair share and then some, I don't begrudge her a penny.
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Post by madnellie on Feb 28, 2022 20:58:06 GMT
In answer to wrighter, the Kiev name is important. I'm old school and hate change for the sake of change, so I've stuck with Kiev. That was until I saw the explanation - Kiev is the Russian language name... Kyiv (pronounced as you say, like "keeve") is the Ukranian language version. The Ukranians want everyone to use that. Given whats gone on, I'm trying my hardest to adopt the Ukranian version. It's the very least we can do. Probably the best first post I've ever seen on here. Thanks Sizzle.
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