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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 9, 2022 15:34:33 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Mar 9, 2022 15:35:16 GMT
Out.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 9, 2022 15:46:31 GMT
Quite tight in the early voting
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Post by march4 on Mar 9, 2022 15:50:38 GMT
Early lead for out.
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Post by tqstokie on Mar 9, 2022 15:55:09 GMT
What I don't quite understand with the Stoke City management team is that if the majority of supporters who are not in immediate contact with the club understand that the team they selected v Blackpool was quite ridiculous based on the nature and form of the players selected. Why do experienced people like Holden and Delap go along with it. Are all the backroom staff yes men. Why didn't someone stand up and tell him.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 9, 2022 15:56:59 GMT
In the name of God GO
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Post by march4 on Mar 9, 2022 16:06:13 GMT
Out still in the lead.
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Post by jokker on Mar 9, 2022 16:08:33 GMT
What I don't quite understand with the Stoke City management team is that if the majority of supporters who are not in immediate contact with the club understand that the team they selected v Blackpool was quite ridiculous based on the nature and form of the players selected. Why do experienced people like Holden and Delap go along with it. Are all the backroom staff yes men. Why didn't someone stand up and tell him. Because it's - somewhat - a team decision. O'Neill of course has the final word. But he might - not saying this is fact - he might have selected Duhaney, because Holden or Delap told him he was doing well in training. Or maybe he was just selected, because there were no other option available, with Smith injured, Wilmot a walking suspension, and Coates out on loan. And so on for the rest of the selections. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 9, 2022 16:31:53 GMT
In.
For now.
What’s the rush? We’re going neither up or down.
The players don’t appear to have downed tools. They should have beaten Barnsley and kept going to the end.
If the dream candidate was hammering on our door then fair enough. But as far as I can tell there’s no obvious man to step in.
Take a breath. Get to the end of the season and make the call then.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 9, 2022 16:35:52 GMT
In. For now. What’s the rush? We’re going neither up or down. The players don’t appear to have downed tools. They should have beaten Barnsley and kept going to the end. If the dream candidate was hammering on our door then fair enough. But as far as I can tell there’s no obvious man to step in. Take a breath. Get to the end of the season and make the call then. It’s a results business and they have been dreadful. I’ll vote out once I know what the plan is to replace him. I’ve got a feeling this club is going to implode and find itself heading towards League 1 next season if we aren’t very careful. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 9, 2022 16:39:37 GMT
In. For now. What’s the rush? We’re going neither up or down. The players don’t appear to have downed tools. They should have beaten Barnsley and kept going to the end. If the dream candidate was hammering on our door then fair enough. But as far as I can tell there’s no obvious man to step in. Take a breath. Get to the end of the season and make the call then. It’s a results business and they have been dreadful. I’ll vote out once I know what the plan is to replace him. I’ve got a feeling this club is going to implode and find itself heading towards League 1 next season if we aren’t very careful. It's been stark to realise after the false dawn of early in the season just how far away we really are from being where we need to be. |
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Post by jeycov on Mar 9, 2022 16:46:34 GMT
In
Review at the end of the season
Do the board still want him?
Does he want to stay?
Will players remaining at the club support his plans?
Do a significant number of fans support him?
The remaining games may well determine some of these answers
As a fan it’s important to support the management imo
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Post by pottermouth on Mar 9, 2022 16:50:46 GMT
Out- he’s had his chance and fluffed it - same as last season. Farke in.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 9, 2022 16:51:47 GMT
It’s a results business and they have been dreadful. I’ll vote out once I know what the plan is to replace him. I’ve got a feeling this club is going to implode and find itself heading towards League 1 next season if we aren’t very careful. It's been stark to realise after the false dawn of early in the season just how far away we really are from being where we need to be. It's not just that imo. It's the exact same pattern as last season. Bar the two differences, we had a good (or it seemed to be) January this time and the fall away has been even stronger. |
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Post by tqstokie on Mar 9, 2022 16:52:03 GMT
What I don't quite understand with the Stoke City management team is that if the majority of supporters who are not in immediate contact with the club understand that the team they selected v Blackpool was quite ridiculous based on the nature and form of the players selected. Why do experienced people like Holden and Delap go along with it. Are all the backroom staff yes men. Why didn't someone stand up and tell him. Because it's - somewhat - a team decision. O'Neill of course has the final word. But he might - not saying this is fact - he might have selected Duhaney, because Holden or Delap told him he was doing well in training. Or maybe he was just selected, because there were no other option available, with Smith injured, Wilmot a walking suspension, and Coates out on loan. And so on for the rest of the selections. It reminds me that a camel is a horse designed by committee. I don't remember the exact quote but I think it was attributed to Sir Alec Issigonis. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 16:53:55 GMT
Surprised by how tight it is given the shit you read on this forum, shows the types that shout the loudest imo.
That said, I'm beginning to lose faith myself atm.
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Post by therightside on Mar 9, 2022 16:54:07 GMT
MON has to go now.
We can replace him by putting Kevin Russell in charge until the end of the season.
This gives Rooster a chance at the top job, which in my opinion he has earned with
his work with the youngsters.
If that fails we have the summer to recruit a new manager.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 9, 2022 16:57:46 GMT
What I don't quite understand with the Stoke City management team is that if the majority of supporters who are not in immediate contact with the club understand that the team they selected v Blackpool was quite ridiculous based on the nature and form of the players selected. Why do experienced people like Holden and Delap go along with it. Are all the backroom staff yes men. Why didn't someone stand up and tell him. Because it's - somewhat - a team decision. O'Neill of course has the final word. But he might - not saying this is fact - he might have selected Duhaney, because Holden or Delap told him he was doing well in training. Or maybe he was just selected, because there were no other option available, with Smith injured, Wilmot a walking suspension, and Coates out on loan. And so on for the rest of the selections. If Smith is the only option that's on MON too, he sent a right back packing without bringing one in, whichever way you look at it its poor management. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 9, 2022 16:58:10 GMT
Surprised by how tight it is given the shit you read on this forum, shows the types that shout the loudest imo. That said, I'm beginning to lose faith myself atm. What shit? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 17:06:31 GMT
Surprised by how tight it is given the shit you read on this forum, shows the types that shout the loudest imo. That said, I'm beginning to lose faith myself atm. What shit? I just mean that when things are going bad, some posters seem to revel in it and if you read most threads it's more like 90/10 MON out. The more even split of the poll suggests that the highly critical posters are the ones who dominate discussion. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 9, 2022 17:08:41 GMT
I just mean that when things are going bad, some posters seem to revel in it and if you read most threads it's more like 90/10 MON out. The more even split of the poll suggests that the highly critical posters are the ones who dominate discussion. It’s not shit though? Most of the stuff said is fair and paints him in a terrible light. Two seasons of dross in a row is shocking. Agree it’s closer than I expected. But he lost a good part of the home crowd months ago imo. They were booed off about 5/6 games in a row. |
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 9, 2022 17:13:24 GMT
What I don't quite understand with the Stoke City management team is that if the majority of supporters who are not in immediate contact with the club understand that the team they selected v Blackpool was quite ridiculous based on the nature and form of the players selected. Why do experienced people like Holden and Delap go along with it. Are all the backroom staff yes men. Why didn't someone stand up and tell him. Because it's - somewhat - a team decision. O'Neill of course has the final word. But he might - not saying this is fact - he might have selected Duhaney, because Holden or Delap told him he was doing well in training. Or maybe he was just selected, because there were no other option available, with Smith injured, Wilmot a walking suspension, and Coates out on loan. And so on for the rest of the selections. Or he might be fucked off that Smith's first thought is to pass the responsibility on to someone else. He is the biggest killer of momentum in the team. Any impetus we have is immediately snuffed out when he gets the ball. Duhaney was poor and was targeted by them but was no worse than Smith. |
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Post by jokker on Mar 9, 2022 17:46:50 GMT
Because it's - somewhat - a team decision. O'Neill of course has the final word. But he might - not saying this is fact - he might have selected Duhaney, because Holden or Delap told him he was doing well in training. Or maybe he was just selected, because there were no other option available, with Smith injured, Wilmot a walking suspension, and Coates out on loan. And so on for the rest of the selections. If Smith is the only option that's on MON too, he sent a right back packing without bringing one in, whichever way you look at it its poor management. Smith was not an option. He was injured, |
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Post by jokker on Mar 9, 2022 17:48:06 GMT
Because it's - somewhat - a team decision. O'Neill of course has the final word. But he might - not saying this is fact - he might have selected Duhaney, because Holden or Delap told him he was doing well in training. Or maybe he was just selected, because there were no other option available, with Smith injured, Wilmot a walking suspension, and Coates out on loan. And so on for the rest of the selections. Or he might be fucked off that Smith's first thought is to pass the responsibility on to someone else. He is the biggest killer of momentum in the team. Any impetus we have is immediately snuffed out when he gets the ball. Duhaney was poor and was targeted by them but was no worse than Smith. I have no idea what you're talking about. |
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Post by march4 on Mar 9, 2022 18:31:37 GMT
Ever increasing lead for out.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 9, 2022 18:33:26 GMT
In, but his position is untenable really. I have no faith in Coates appointing anyone who could get the results given the abject set up of the club.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Mar 9, 2022 18:35:35 GMT
For Bonham and Chester instead of Bursik and Wilmot, it’s out.
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Post by Sfance on Mar 9, 2022 18:45:21 GMT
Voted “no,” because MON has had more than enough time to prove he has what it takes - it’s been obvious for some time that he doesn’t. But, it would be worse if Jonboy replaces him with someone who hasn’t shown that they can whip a team like ours into winning shape. Still, I do think that now is the time IF there is a replacement who fits the bill. Not sure that giving it to Holden would improve matters. He looks as dour and clueless as MON on the sidelines during games. As for Rory - he’s totally unproven as a manager and given his most famous contribution as a player, I cannot for the life of me understand why he hasn’t made us 100 times better at throw-ins.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 9, 2022 18:55:49 GMT
As soon as the crowd openly turns as it did last night, and we're having polls and conversations like this, it's only going one way.
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Post by Ron on Mar 9, 2022 18:59:04 GMT
We are a strange fan base. Our record recently/ form is relegation form. Our home record is appalling.
Too much sentiment and the “ well who else is there “ brigade.
Football is a ruthless business and, as good a bloke MON appears to be he is not doing a good job.
At ANY other club the vast majority of the fan base would be demanding him out vocally.
Folk seem to be so passive / indifferent- exactly like the Coates’.
He’s got to go. I really wanted him to do well but my god it’s been awful.
We’ve just taken a point against rock bottom Barnsley and some are positive again.
His transfers have been poor, and he doesn’t believe on any system enough to stick with it.
Sadly- I don’t think he’s going anywhere and another year of mediocrity beckons.
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