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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 8, 2022 20:52:46 GMT
Yet again England rattle up 10 so far tonight. It’s seen every week in the WSL. How long before some competitive games start happening? All for a competitive womens league to run against the mens but for as long as I care to remember it’s not unusual to see a full fixture list of absolute drubbings. Will the womens game ever take off? Crowds are down which is ridiculous considering the amount of exposure the game has had over the last few years. I fear for the womens game has stagnated already. Thoughts?
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Post by 4doorsaloon on Apr 8, 2022 21:05:37 GMT
Clearly the womens game has your attention as you follow it so closely. I would expect our mens team to put at least 10 past north macedonia. And the premier league sees many uncompetitive and predictable results every week.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 8, 2022 21:07:59 GMT
Clearly the womens game has your attention as you follow it so closely. I would expect our mens team to put at least 10 past north macedonia. And the premier league sees many uncompetitive and predictable results every week. The North Macedonia that just knocked Italy out of World Cup qualification?
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Post by Billy the kid on Apr 8, 2022 21:12:07 GMT
anything to stifle equality.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 8, 2022 21:18:49 GMT
Clearly the womens game has your attention as you follow it so closely. I would expect our mens team to put at least 10 past north macedonia. And the premier league sees many uncompetitive and predictable results every week. Codswallop
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Post by thevoid on Apr 8, 2022 21:23:28 GMT
Clearly the womens game has your attention as you follow it so closely. I would expect our mens team to put at least 10 past north macedonia. And the premier league sees many uncompetitive and predictable results every week. The North Macedonia men's team that reached the Euro finals and recently won competitive ties away in both Germany and Italy? That one? In fact I'm sure Macedonia made a draw away to England a few years ago in a qualifier. I seem to recall them scoring direct from a corner, may have been at Southampton
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Post by 4doorsaloon on Apr 8, 2022 21:58:49 GMT
Clearly the womens game has your attention as you follow it so closely. I would expect our mens team to put at least 10 past north macedonia. And the premier league sees many uncompetitive and predictable results every week. The North Macedonia men's team that reached the Euro finals and recently won competitive ties away in both Germany and Italy? That one? In fact I'm sure Macedonia made a draw away to England a few years ago in a qualifier. I seem to recall them scoring direct from a corner, may have been at Southampton Gotta love a google search 👀
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Apr 8, 2022 22:13:02 GMT
The North Macedonia men's team that reached the Euro finals and recently won competitive ties away in both Germany and Italy? That one? In fact I'm sure Macedonia made a draw away to England a few years ago in a qualifier. I seem to recall them scoring direct from a corner, may have been at Southampton Gotta love a google search 👀 Not sure how much of a search you need for something that was all over the news a whole fortnight ago.
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Post by a on Apr 8, 2022 22:51:35 GMT
Clearly the womens game has your attention as you follow it so closely. I would expect our mens team to put at least 10 past north macedonia. And the premier league sees many uncompetitive and predictable results every week. The North Macedonia men's team that reached the Euro finals and recently won competitive ties away in both Germany and Italy? That one? In fact I'm sure Macedonia made a draw away to England a few years ago in a qualifier. I seem to recall them scoring direct from a corner, may have been at Southampton Also ranked higher than Iceland and a few spots below Greece and Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Apr 8, 2022 23:13:26 GMT
Women's football isn't going to be at the level of men's football after 2 years of publicity is it? Girls are growing up now knowing football is something they can do, so it'll probably be 5-10 years before the talent pool is big enough to make more games more competitive more often.
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Post by jzime on Apr 9, 2022 0:23:46 GMT
Women's football is going to be one sided and uncompetitive for a while, because it's even more about who has money than the men's game. It's really that simple.
I doubt the North Macedonia FA have been investing in girls football, at every age level, for the last 15-20 years.
I doubt that there has been a conscious effort on behalf of the Macedonian FA, and the national broadcaster, to dramatically increase the exposure of the professional women's league.
The women's World Cup has been won by the USA (four times), Germany (twice), Japan and Norway (once each). These are all wealthy countries with modern, post-industrial economies. All countries that can afford to invest in developing and growing women's football. It's not complicated.
In America, the women's game is basically as big as the men's game; if you're good enough to be a professional woman footballer, you'll become one. Doubt that's the same thing in less wealthy nations that don't have wealthy or fleshed-out professional women's leagues; in situations like that some women will reach their early 20s and have to decide if they're going to follow their dream of becoming a footballer, or get a job that is actually going to pay them a liveable wage.
Poorer nations cannot magic up training facilities and investment in grassroots football overnight and expect to suddenly compete with wealthy countries who have been doing that for 20-odd years. The recent explosion in growth and media exposure in women's football across Europe is less than a decade old. It won't be for a generation or so that the women's game sees the real benefits of that; as the young kids of today become the professional footballers of the future. And even then, it will happen in a very uneven way as poorer countries play catch up with wealthy ones in terms of facilities and professional infrastructure.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 9, 2022 0:51:53 GMT
The North Macedonia men's team that reached the Euro finals and recently won competitive ties away in both Germany and Italy? That one? In fact I'm sure Macedonia made a draw away to England a few years ago in a qualifier. I seem to recall them scoring direct from a corner, may have been at Southampton Gotta love a google search 👀 You may want to try it
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Post by independent on Apr 9, 2022 1:38:50 GMT
The Women’s FA Cup final was attended by 41,000 people, with 1.4 million watching on television. This is no surprise. As a nation, we have become very American in the way we embrace sport. If it’s a big event, or we believe it’s a big event, we go, we buy in, we consume.Meaning the positives around the Wembley final must be balanced against the 715 who attended Aston Villa at home to Chelsea, or the 502 at Everton’s match with Brighton this season. Attendances in the Women’s Super League are actually going down. There are familiar complaints about marketing and promotion, but it is not as if the game is without profile these days. Television numbers are healthy but, for all the well-intentioned strategies, what if there simply isn’t the market for live attendance? The latest target for women’s football is average gates of 6,000 in the WSL. Yet, while the league was averaging a promising 3,000 in 2019-20, attendances have subsequently been in retreat. Wembley’s gate was encouraging but, sadly, may say more about our love for the big event than the women’s game. Coventry United Ladies to be placed in voluntary liquidation 28-12-21
I think this article was from the Guardian.
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Post by independent on Apr 9, 2022 1:59:19 GMT
It is very difficult to get attendance figures for WSL games. The question is why? Even for the FA cup final there are a lot of free tickets given out and free buses run. The last world cup tickets started at €10 and they still couldn't sell out most of the games. Attendances are falling throughout Europe and it is difficult to see what they can do to arrest the decline. The only thing that they haven't tried yet is to play a league game as a curtain raiser for a Premier game and I'm not even sure that that would help.At the moment we have a 12 team league in England, with 3 clubs qualifying for Europe. At the moment the WSL have managed to attract £7 million pa.in Sponsorship and even that may disappear if people don't atend matches. It's almost impossible to see the WSL ever becoming self supporting financially.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 9, 2022 4:28:24 GMT
It’s shit
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Post by werrington on Apr 9, 2022 5:44:15 GMT
BBC news this morning
Ellen White is now only 3 goals behind Wayne Rooneys England record of 53
It’s getting silly now
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Post by noustie on Apr 9, 2022 5:55:06 GMT
Women's football isn't going to be at the level of men's football after 2 years of publicity is it? Girls are growing up now knowing football is something they can do, so it'll probably be 5-10 years before the talent pool is big enough to make more games more competitive more often. My wee lass plays and the local junior (what we call semi professional league up here) run it. Only three primary schools but there are 40 girls in 3 groups in her session with another session straight after. They've played a few tournament bounce games and must be 8-10 u8s teams in and around Dundee so it's defo taking off at grass roots from what I can see
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Post by noustie on Apr 9, 2022 5:58:49 GMT
BBC news this morning Ellen White is now only 3 goals behind Wayne Rooneys England record of 53 It’s getting silly now Law and Dalglish are joint second for Scotland on 30 behind Julie Fleeting on 116
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Post by soulsurvivor on Apr 9, 2022 6:13:18 GMT
My thoughts are that this is a minority sport, it benefits from fans like us that support the women's side from our club, because they are part of our club not because women's football is an exciting prospect. Personally I wish that the lower leagues including below league 2 had received the same backing and support as the politically correct women's game, put a few games on the TV and that would benefit the whole game perhaps attendances may have risen and helped struggling clubs.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Apr 9, 2022 6:26:28 GMT
I'm sure that the women themselves want their football to be more like a competitive sport.
Right now its the equivalent of Premier League vs Midland Combination, and who wants to watch that??
26-0 results do nothing for the sport. Those are Sunday League Dog & Duck results.
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 9, 2022 6:37:30 GMT
It's womens football.
Or do you call the men's game gentlemens football?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 9, 2022 6:38:24 GMT
It's womens football. Or do you call the men's game gentlemens football? I call the mens game “football”😉
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 9, 2022 6:39:36 GMT
It's womens football. Or do you call the men's game gentlemens football? I call the mens game “football”😉 Or nogger 😉
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Post by Northy on Apr 9, 2022 6:43:58 GMT
There use to be scores like that in men's football only a generation ago, I can remember watching England beat Turkey 8-0 the gap has closed and hopefully will in women's football to make it more competitive
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 9, 2022 6:45:16 GMT
Clearly the womens game has your attention as you follow it so closely. I would expect our mens team to put at least 10 past north macedonia. And the premier league sees many uncompetitive and predictable results every week. I think it’s very difficult not to notice it as often despite crowds in the very low 1000s (despite some tickets being given away) the results of the WSL are often given before the Championship. Sometimes when they’re talking about the Champions League fixtures they don’t even put womens in front of it till they’ve started the report and live games are shown frequently on sky. It’s going to take time but if it fails it won’t be through want of trying. I just wish Sky would put as much effort into promoting the lower leagues and grass roots football and maybe we wouldn’t have as many clubs going out of business. Unlike games like tennis where the womens game is equally as entertaining I just don’t think the interests there however hard it’s pushed.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 9, 2022 7:00:22 GMT
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
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Post by werrington on Apr 9, 2022 7:00:47 GMT
Clearly the womens game has your attention as you follow it so closely. I would expect our mens team to put at least 10 past north macedonia. And the premier league sees many uncompetitive and predictable results every week. I think it’s very difficult not to notice it as often despite crowds in the very low 1000s (despite some tickets being given away) the results of the WSL are often given before the Championship. Sometimes when they’re talking about the Champions League fixtures they don’t even put womens in front of it till they’ve started the report and live games are shown frequently on sky. It’s going to take time but if it fails it won’t be through want of trying. I just wish Sky would put as much effort into promoting the lower leagues and grass roots football and maybe we wouldn’t have as many clubs going out of business. Unlike games like tennis where the womens game is equally as entertaining I just don’t think the interests there however hard it’s pushed. I wish Sky would tell Anthony Joshua that he and they are being hypocrites by promoting a fight that’s about to take place in Saudi Arabia as it seems females and homosexual lives don’t seem to matter Hypocrites the absolute lot of them but anyway it’s gone off track
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 9, 2022 7:08:37 GMT
I think it’s very difficult not to notice it as often despite crowds in the very low 1000s (despite some tickets being given away) the results of the WSL are often given before the Championship. Sometimes when they’re talking about the Champions League fixtures they don’t even put womens in front of it till they’ve started the report and live games are shown frequently on sky. It’s going to take time but if it fails it won’t be through want of trying. I just wish Sky would put as much effort into promoting the lower leagues and grass roots football and maybe we wouldn’t have as many clubs going out of business. Unlike games like tennis where the womens game is equally as entertaining I just don’t think the interests there however hard it’s pushed. I wish Sky would tell Anthony Joshua that he and they are being hypocrites by promoting a fight that’s about to take place in Saudi Arabia as it seems females and homosexual lives don’t seem to matter Hypocrites the absolute lot of them but anyway it’s gone off track sadly there’s a lot of hypocrisy in the world especially where moneys involved. Couldn’t agree more.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Apr 9, 2022 8:09:24 GMT
The goals are too big.
The average height of a male Premier League goalkeeper is 6’3” and I’d imagine that stays the same throughout the rest of the football league. A bit of Googling finds that the percentage of women that are at least 6ft tall is 0.5 and though I haven’t found a stat for at least 6’3” I reckon you’d be in the 0.05% area.
I’d say the standards of goalkeeping in the women’s game are already rather poor but they’ll struggle to be decent regardless of investment in training standards if they can’t reach much of the goal.
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Post by lordb on Apr 9, 2022 8:20:51 GMT
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be led
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