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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Oct 28, 2021 9:45:13 GMT
I don't think the figure should be a concern, it would be more worrying if a league game at the weekend went below 18k imo.
It's a night game and they're never easy to get back from at Stoke.
And we were playing a premier league side but Brentford are an unfashionable game.
Would kids for a quid work? I like the idea but think the reality is most didn't fancy it, Stoke aren't the only thing to do especially at half term.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Sept 26, 2021 11:27:07 GMT
Problem they have is their main commentator, the veteran of decades is not really up to it anymore. Listends to it a bit and in 2021 it just seems really low quality
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Sept 26, 2021 11:23:49 GMT
I think it's a little ridiculous how quickly we went from no cash to cash only.
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Nige
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Aug 8, 2021 11:52:14 GMT
Clearly the voice of SCFC but its clear the standard is only going one way.
Listening to him making errors and Pejic moaning about the fact it's not 1974 anymore can only he accepted through a comedic angle, which shouldn't be the standard.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jul 17, 2021 10:02:52 GMT
The idea that mssk wearing will he enforced is laughable. Low paid stewards are not gonna go and demand groups of people wear one.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jul 5, 2021 14:02:37 GMT
I don't see why it's a problem he didn't start a lot for Norwich. They're a top side, the beat side in the division the past season and in 2019.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jun 30, 2021 15:55:39 GMT
I would kindly suggest people need to get over themselves. Everybody getting angry about it has probably used the word 'snowflake' or accused someone else of being 'offended'.
"He is paid by the english"
The money in the game wouldn't be possible if it was a british/english game.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jun 29, 2021 15:46:05 GMT
Grow up and get over it... if you don't like him just ignore him
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jun 22, 2021 9:35:21 GMT
If we have a sell on in this climate it's fine.
Problem is it won't he reinvested I bet, it'll be used to plug a hole caused by the club's own mistakes.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jun 9, 2021 14:27:45 GMT
Would be a really underwhelming signing. Doesn't seem a particularly great guy either.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on May 28, 2021 15:40:24 GMT
The problem is we need as a fanbase to be more ambitious and not see ourselves as 'plucky little old Stoke'.
We have spent more than half of our league history in the top flight yet some are grateful that we aren't in the fourth tier. Maybe that's what 23 years of hurt does to people.
Hughes started well and ended dreadfully I believe this to day our relegation was completely unnecessary. We threw it away through dreadful recruitment, a lack of ability or willingness to make key decisions, Tony Scholes, and some slightly.old fashioned views about the game.
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87M Loss
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on May 28, 2021 15:29:21 GMT
I think there are two issues here.
The first is the FFP. I don't think the rules are fit for purpose and maybe its right that somebody should be able to spend to improve their team.
The second, and for me more pressing is the running of the club. Its shit. It's down to the chief executive who shouldn't be in the role, but who is responsible for him? I've seen nothing in the three years since relegation (a complete unnecessary disaster imo) to suggest our owners are up to it anymore. They don't get a free pass just because Bet365 creates jobs or they give to charity.
It's not just pumping money in. They can own the club, they can fund it, but they *'must* get new people in to help run it. Not make it a family business. There are better run clubs out there who would kill for some of the resources we have.
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87M Loss
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on May 27, 2021 18:50:35 GMT
God bless the Coates family for saving us from whichever morons have got us into this place through incompetent planning and spending. Forever Grateful.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on May 17, 2021 20:28:12 GMT
I think he would struggle here, he'd get Rotherham type figures here. 9 in 57 or something.
I don't think our new forward has to be a Goal getter as such. Just a good footballer with a better conversion rate than idk Gregory. A fit Stephen Fletcher. Whatever.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on May 4, 2021 21:56:51 GMT
Good recruitment good manager and an ability to scrape results.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on May 2, 2021 13:07:11 GMT
Our issues go far beyond the playing squad or manager, whatever you think of them.
The club is not particularly well run. It has rich owners, yes, they are fans, yes and they'll keep tickets cheap, but there is no real strategic vision there. No idea. They just want 'Stoke to be back in the Premier League' and don't know how to connect the dots.
Keep changing managers won't do it. Even if Wilder is a better manager than MON, it is perfectly reasonable to expect a guy who won 3 in 30 or something to not succeed here. The club's issues can't be overrided by a manager.
Are Tony and John the men to lead us back? I'd say no.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 28, 2021 8:37:14 GMT
I think he has unfortunately burned through a lot of credit he had and wouldn't survive these results and football in front of a crowd, but...
I want us to stick with a manager. We are going through good managers here. There are bigger problems at the club that would still exist even if a Wilder or Bilic came in.
We very nearly went down last season. For me we are still far away from the top flight, that Norwich side didn't compete up there and they had better players. That's what happens when we spend £70m on mostly rubbish and have a seemingly 'buy British' policy.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 9, 2021 15:54:48 GMT
I think social media companies are pretty bad at dealing with this but if they're gonna do it properly they should probably add several numerous media publications in it too.
No point boycotting twitter then speaking to the sun. Have those difficult conversations with your media pals.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Mar 16, 2021 13:31:42 GMT
There is a lot to be said about some of the people commenting in this thread. I'm not sure it's particularly pleasant.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Mar 14, 2021 16:11:32 GMT
Whether or not it's all down to him the fact is he has been here whilst we have declined massively as a side. He's played nearly 170 appearances and I can't remember many good ones. He isn't a flop signing like Imbula, Wimmer or Berahino but it's not been a success. Nowhere near. Imo accept any bid for him in the summer. We aren't getting £10m for him. No he’s not like Imbula, Wimmer or Berahino it’s much worse than that. Despite his detrimental impact he’s almost ever present when fit. 4 years worth of evidence ignored by 5 managers. That's a very fair point tbh
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Mar 14, 2021 8:27:24 GMT
It seems to pass on from manager to manager at this club the absolute obsession or playing 'experienced' pros.
Tbh our whole attitude towards this division since our relegation has been wrong. We have prioritised british or british based players after the failures of Imbula Jese etc. That ignores that also around that time the likes of Johnson, Fletcher, Adam were stinking the place out too.
No other club in this division pays the wages we do to Allen & Mikel which therefore justifies selection in this team.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Mar 14, 2021 8:23:52 GMT
Whether or not it's all down to him the fact is he has been here whilst we have declined massively as a side. He's played nearly 170 appearances and I can't remember many good ones.
He isn't a flop signing like Imbula, Wimmer or Berahino but it's not been a success. Nowhere near.
Imo accept any bid for him in the summer. We aren't getting £10m for him.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Mar 14, 2021 8:20:48 GMT
I there there aren't many realistic candidates available. And tbh we need to stick with someone. MON might not be the man to deliver us premier league footballer but sticking with him for a while may bring us closer to it.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Feb 13, 2021 22:01:20 GMT
BLM the political organisation is such a minuscule group and not taken seriously by anybody with broadly similar politics to them.
It's the right and often the far right that paint them out to be some 'marxists'. If you think these footballers have been reading Karl Marx you're a moron.
The message makes people uncomfortable because it hits a nerve
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Feb 13, 2021 20:13:18 GMT
Lampard was doing a poorer job at Chelsea than MON has at Stoke ffs
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Verlinden
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 22, 2021 13:57:51 GMT
It's a shame to see it not work out here but it's better that he goes elsewhere for first team football than maybe making the bench a couple of times here.
There doesn't have to be any big reason behind MON not having him or anything.
This isnt going to be a big factor in MON' management of the club
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 3, 2021 11:03:51 GMT
I think some of the people who thought this was a squad capable of promotion, or in some cases 'should easily be top 6' have been proven wrong. Let's be honest MON is still rebuilding one of the worst built squads in the past decade of english football. A squad that has seen money spent on rubbish, players not sold when they could have been for £££££, a lack of direction, a seemingly insistence on recruiting mostly British players and one that is heavily restricted by FFP. Players like Ince and Vokes have been flops. If Berahino/Imbula/Wimmer aka the trinity of shit are our worst ever signings then people like Ince/Vokes are next. McClean and Clucas have done ok but it was nearly £15m on them two. Anyone remember Ryan Woods? Most of the players we have signed have been far better elsewhere. Our defence is excellent but again its reliant on three very young players. Tommy Smith is a very average right back. Our club captain, legend is effectively finished as a SCFC player. We were so reliant on Campbell up front and his injury leaves us with little imo. If we finished 8th in May I would argue that is a good season. I forgot to add yes it's a bit negative and it's a shame we have stopped scoring goals. But if anyone has offered me these circumstances at any point in the last few years I'd have taken them
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 3, 2021 11:02:26 GMT
I think some of the people who thought this was a squad capable of promotion, or in some cases 'should easily be top 6' have been proven wrong.
Let's be honest MON is still rebuilding one of the worst built squads in the past decade of english football. A squad that has seen money spent on rubbish, players not sold when they could have been for £££££, a lack of direction, a seemingly insistence on recruiting mostly British players and one that is heavily restricted by FFP.
Players like Ince and Vokes have been flops. If Berahino/Imbula/Wimmer aka the trinity of shit are our worst ever signings then people like Ince/Vokes are next. McClean and Clucas have done ok but it was nearly £15m on them two. Anyone remember Ryan Woods? Most of the players we have signed have been far better elsewhere.
Our defence is excellent but again its reliant on three very young players. Tommy Smith is a very average right back. Our club captain, legend is effectively finished as a SCFC player.
We were so reliant on Campbell up front and his injury leaves us with little imo. If we finished 8th in May I would argue that is a good season.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 27, 2020 14:16:07 GMT
Bursik stays at number one.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 20, 2020 10:09:50 GMT
Extraordinary some moan about him. Have they already forgotten we nearly went down to League One last season?
This squad still has flaws in them. Nobody expected the three young players at the back to be that good.
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