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Post by RF10 on Apr 8, 2021 17:55:52 GMT
So far Swansea, Birmingham and Rangers have announced boycott of social media including players due to he on going racial abuse and lack of action being done to stop it happening.
This is exactly what is needed and fully expect more clubs to follow, hope Stoke announce the same in due course. It would be a great sign if all Premier League Clubs and EFL carried out the boycott, along with their players.
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Post by skemstokie on Apr 8, 2021 18:12:48 GMT
So far Swansea, Birmingham and Rangers have announced boycott of social media including players due to he on going racial abuse and lack of action being done to stop it happening. This is exactly what is needed and fully expect more clubs to follow, hope Stoke announce the same in due course. It would be a great sign if all Premier League Clubs and EFL carried out the boycott, along with their players. The more clubs sign up the more likely the social media sites will be more vigilant in monitoring posts and excluding the knobs who post inflammatory messages. |
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Post by leicspotter on Apr 8, 2021 18:21:02 GMT
So far Swansea, Birmingham and Rangers have announced boycott of social media including players due to he on going racial abuse and lack of action being done to stop it happening. This is exactly what is needed and fully expect more clubs to follow, hope Stoke announce the same in due course. It would be a great sign if all Premier League Clubs and EFL carried out the boycott, along with their players. I've been saying this for ages...hit the social media companies where it hurts...reduce their traffic = reduce their revenue = they might start to take action |
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 8, 2021 18:36:23 GMT
It's a start and it is to be supported, but the real big hitter would be to boycott games - especially live games. Only then would the message be seriously heard.
A full program of games. Players walk on, shake hands, place a banner against racism in the centre circle for the cameras and walk straight off again. What are the authorities going to do, dock points to all of them? Good, it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference.
If it keeps happening, then keep on boycotting. When TV companies and the big money starts to get affected, then things will start to happen quickly. They aren't bothered about racism. They're bothered about their pockets and their pockets only.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Apr 8, 2021 18:45:00 GMT
The problem might be getting players on board. A lot of their personal endorsements and sponsorship deals include a requirement for them to have a strong social media presence because that's their main advertising medium these days. Players won't want to lose endorsements and additional income so there might be resistance from some.
And of course young players these days are from generation Z, the social media generation who have grown up always knowing this technology and social media has been around since they were in primary school. They can't remember a time before smart phones and stuff existed so to them social media is an essential communication tool and online extension of their personalities, not just a luxury extra that they could easily get rid off. They see their online existence as an equal to their real world existence so I'd imagine a lot would be very reluctant to get rid of it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2021 18:47:37 GMT
Presume Stoke have been doing this for the last decade?
Ahead of the curve for once.
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Post by fca47 on Apr 8, 2021 19:03:31 GMT
It's a place for morons, unlike this messageboard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 19:14:47 GMT
It's a place for morons, unlike this messageboard. Which is a place for football intellects. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 8, 2021 19:48:07 GMT
I've been boycotting social media for years, doesn't half help with the your sanity.
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Post by Gifton on Apr 8, 2021 19:53:26 GMT
So far Swansea, Birmingham and Rangers have announced boycott of social media including players due to he on going racial abuse and lack of action being done to stop it happening. This is exactly what is needed and fully expect more clubs to follow, hope Stoke announce the same in due course. It would be a great sign if all Premier League Clubs and EFL carried out the boycott, along with their players. Ironic that Rangers are getting involved with their fanbase, who next, Chelsea? |
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 8, 2021 20:21:44 GMT
Why are they on it in the first place?
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Post by march4 on Apr 8, 2021 20:39:57 GMT
It's a place for morons, unlike this messageboard. Which is a place for football intellects. Absolutely! And matron agrees too! |
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Post by lagwafis on Apr 8, 2021 20:46:58 GMT
The problem might be getting players on board. A lot of their personal endorsements and sponsorship deals include a requirement for them to have a strong social media presence because that's their main advertising medium these days. Players won't want to lose endorsements and additional income so there might be resistance from some. And of course young players these days are from generation Z, the social media generation who have grown up always knowing this technology and social media has been around since they were in primary school. They can't remember a time before smart phones and stuff existed so to them social media is an essential communication tool and online extension of their personalities, not just a luxury extra that they could easily get rid off. They see their online existence as an equal to their real world existence so I'd imagine a lot would be very reluctant to get rid of it. Agree. It's a symbolic gesture but sadly it won't have any impact on the companies in question. The numbers Facebook alone generates are mind-boggling (2.70 billion active users a month as of last year + more than 4 billion video views a day and that's not counting the amount of posts and comments made by users themselves which power the ad revenues). It'd require a global level rejection on a massive scale to have any impact, including all of the big hitters taking part (sports personalities, brands, celebrities etc.). Too many individuals and businesses (from the one-man band to massive corporations) are dependent on social marketing these days that it's unlikely they would ever risk taking the hit. |
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 8, 2021 20:56:43 GMT
Presume Stoke have been doing this for the last decade? Ahead of the curve for once. Up there with that new fangled contactless that they held out against |
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Apr 8, 2021 22:26:00 GMT
I fear this will only escalate it. The best thing you could possibly do is ignore it. When it has this much of an effect, people are going to do it more. The reason these people do it in the first place is for the publicity so a player/club posts about them.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 9, 2021 2:52:58 GMT
Is this oatcake classed as social media?
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 9, 2021 5:29:31 GMT
It's a start and it is to be supported, but the real big hitter would be to boycott games - especially live games. Only then would the message be seriously heard. A full program of games. Players walk on, shake hands, place a banner against racism in the centre circle for the cameras and walk straight off again. What are the authorities going to do, dock points to all of them? Good, it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference. If it keeps happening, then keep on boycotting. When TV companies and the big money starts to get affected, then things will start to happen quickly. They aren't bothered about racism. They're bothered about their pockets and their pockets only.
That isn’t going to happen And if it did all it would do would leave a few vile no mark keyboard warriors with a smug smile Whilst millions of decent human beings would be denied the game they love |
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Post by Gods on Apr 9, 2021 6:45:05 GMT
Is this oatcake classed as social media? It most definitely is. It could hardly be more so. Odd that there are people on the thread saying they never use social media! |
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Post by RF10 on Apr 9, 2021 7:37:55 GMT
Is this oatcake classed as social media? It most definitely is. It could hardly be more so. Odd that there are people on the thread saying they never use social media! This board though is controlled by admins and although heated discussions happen on here if someone crossed the line I would hope action would be taken. Ultimately that isn't happening on the big social media sites. Any abuse given out is unacceptable regardless if on here on Facebook etc. |
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Post by Gods on Apr 9, 2021 8:11:01 GMT
It most definitely is. It could hardly be more so. Odd that there are people on the thread saying they never use social media! This board though is controlled by admins and although heated discussions happen on here if someone crossed the line I would hope action would be taken. Ultimately that isn't happening on the big social media sites. Any abuse given out is unacceptable regardless if on here on Facebook etc. Yep, the Admins on here have a difficult task, the blatantly dicriminatory/abusive stuff is generally obvious and mostly removed quickly. I always think you need to 'earn' the right to be really rude to someone! Like it's not okay to insult a complete stranger in the street (or indeed on Social Media) but one of your best mates who you have known for years, well you can be pretty rude to him if you think he's being a dick! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2021 8:16:21 GMT
If the Stoke twitter account went I don’t think it’d make any difference for me.
The only thing I might miss is the links to the u23 games.
But other than that it’s pretty pointless.
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Post by Squeekster on Apr 9, 2021 8:30:34 GMT
Thought I hadn't heard much of Geoffrey these days.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Apr 9, 2021 9:23:00 GMT
This just gives trolls more power to fuck things up for their own amusement.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2021 9:25:46 GMT
This just gives trolls more power to fuck things up for their own amusement. I thought that. They’re caving to what I presume is one or two who are more empowered to be racist to a few players after games. It’ll just empower them more thinking they can get rid of stuff they don’t like by being abusive. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 9:50:52 GMT
So far so good. How far should we show our solidarity and are we willing to start with ourselves?
Should we for instance boycott every Oatcake user who abuses Jacob Brown?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2021 9:52:23 GMT
So far so good. How far should we show our solidarity and are we willing to start with ourselves? Should we for instance boycott every Oatcake user who abuses Jacob Brown? 😂Brown doesn’t get abuse. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 9:53:36 GMT
I've been boycotting social media for years, doesn't half help with the your sanity. You forgot to boycott yourself in the Oatcake.... |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 9, 2021 10:15:24 GMT
I've been boycotting social media for years, doesn't half help with the your sanity. You forgot to boycott yourself in the Oatcake.... How correct you are, I'll just do that now, bye. |
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 9, 2021 15:54:48 GMT
I think social media companies are pretty bad at dealing with this but if they're gonna do it properly they should probably add several numerous media publications in it too.
No point boycotting twitter then speaking to the sun. Have those difficult conversations with your media pals.
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Post by RF10 on Apr 9, 2021 16:01:49 GMT
This just gives trolls more power to fuck things up for their own amusement. It's about making a point for more action to be taken. It's not going to stop, probably ever, but it how it's dealt with. |
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