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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 8, 2020 22:23:16 GMT
I think they have good people there just need to use them better. They probably didn't expect their listener numbers to go up for pandemic related reasons so I accept that. And local radio, bbc local radio is slowly dying so realistically long term isn't really a worry
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Radio Stoke
Dec 5, 2020 17:47:06 GMT
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 5, 2020 17:47:06 GMT
It's not great right now. He's clearly a bit of a legend and the voice of our football club but his commentaries feel in decline. People on this board have mentioned some of the stuff from today alone. It's not unreasonable to point this out. Every other commentator I listen to on Radio Stoke and elsewhere doesn't make some of these errors. I think there is still a role for him but its a more scripted one and not one describing a fast paced football match Apparently pointing it out is a big no no 😂 But yes, been great, now though the commentary is pretty poor, not just from 2,000 game Nige either I would rather commentators be still working based on merit and not "well he's been here for x". I mean I'm probably clutching at straws here but does seem a little odd we have two commentators doing a game
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 5, 2020 17:21:09 GMT
It's not great right now. He's clearly a bit of a legend and the voice of our football club but his commentaries feel in decline. People on this board have mentioned some of the stuff from today alone.
It's not unreasonable to point this out. Every other commentator I listen to on Radio Stoke and elsewhere doesn't make some of these errors.
I think there is still a role for him but its a more scripted one and not one describing a fast paced football match
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 4, 2020 9:53:50 GMT
I think the issue is mainly just how big an hold it has on the game. The adverts seem everywhere and its often seems difficult to watch or listen to something without being told to gamble. Must be incredibly difficult for a former gambling addict
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 4, 2020 9:52:23 GMT
I think we are that near that stage where they are banned from the shirt and tbh its probably the right one. Where that leaves Stoke I don't know.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Nov 11, 2020 10:14:47 GMT
He had to go. Completely unacceptable language. And tbh his record before yesterday was pretty bad.
It's his job to get more women playing football, to close the gap on the bizarre statistic that south asians don't make it into the professional game and to encourage gay footballers to be more comfortable.
I do think some of his defenders secretly back him because they think that women or gay people don't really belong in the game. And although Clarke didn't say it, they admire him for the stereotypes they can use.
Also, the chairman of the FA is a high profile job. He is going to a parliamentary committee that is looking to see if the FA is competent. More than anything he hasn't done his job. He wasn't recorded making these in a bar. He said them for all to see.
And he's not even *that* old I mean he was born in 1957, he grew up in that generation where maybe this was more acceptable but he was one of the young people back then who started to change things.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Oct 26, 2020 12:41:14 GMT
A few thoughts
We are in the middle of a pandemic. People will lose their jobs on a massive scale.
Mobile phones are essential these days. To apply for universal credit, search for jobs, education apps, pay for school dinners and trips, covid 'world beating' apps, shopping if self isolating etc.
Flat screen tvs can be brought second hand for £20. Try and buy one with a bulge at the back easily. You can't.
Also are people allowed to have any joy in their lives? What does a child do without a tv and phone? Especially in a world where many things outside are shut. It's irrelevant that somebody's nan had none of these things in 1927.
Proper meals cost money. Cost more money than listing items from aldi. I would argue families are in desperate trouble if they can just, just about feed their kids non nutrious meals.
Even if we accepted the premise that some parents are bad why should the kids suffer?
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Oct 13, 2020 10:03:28 GMT
None of this is getting built. Wait for the sentinel headlines in 2023.
Who gives SOT money to build an arena in a time in which people can't gather?
And trams would be good... but do we *really* need them?
Fact is if the area wants money it's got to give it all to Hanley. None of this six towns stuff, if they tried fo spend £££ on a arena in Hanley people would moan about their crap bus stop in Longton.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Sept 7, 2020 7:33:10 GMT
Still has something to offer but that's it for him being a regular. I think it has held us back recently that it is assumed that our partnership will be ShawX + somebody else.
Instead of a partner for him we need to buy somebody to play over him.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Aug 2, 2020 12:57:16 GMT
If he comes back in the squad I'm happy enough to keep him. He is still one of the more talented players contracted to the club.
Some of the talk about the current squad working hard is a little ott. Remember this was the same team who Wigan destroyed merely weeks ago. I like many of them but it's hardly controversial to have Etebo in the squad.
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Woods
Jul 27, 2020 15:46:38 GMT
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jul 27, 2020 15:46:38 GMT
Best of all worlds.
Millwall get a player they like but can't afford, woods gets regular football in a side he clearly likes playing for.
We get some of the wages off the bill. We probably can't find a club willing to buy him at a specific price, tbh even if we did would he want to go there? Think we forget, him like others can't be forced to sign for a team he doesn't want to.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jul 17, 2020 10:45:50 GMT
If there is one fanbase that shouldn't he judging others by wanting chairmen and managers out its Vale.
Got good owners now but it's just natural physics they will have a dickhead back in charge within the next decade. Cant sustain the lofty heights of top eight in league two.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jul 16, 2020 11:11:34 GMT
O'Neill has performed a near miracle. Close to play off form with this unbalanced mess of a squad. I think that's a very generous analysis given performances since the restart. Our form under him is close to play off form. This squad has so.many issues with it he's done really well. Some shite performances but not at the same level as the last few years under different managers. No other manager we could realistically get does better with this squad. People might want a 'progressive' manager but that isn't happening unless there are radical changes. Which would.include Coates leaving.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jul 16, 2020 8:29:28 GMT
O'Neill has performed a near miracle. Close to play off form with this unbalanced mess of a squad.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jul 2, 2020 20:03:32 GMT
We have spent more than half of our league seasons as a top flight club. More than Leeds and Forest for example.
We managed 45 years after the war in the top two tiers. Only finishing in the bottom third of the second tier twice.
I think our 90s problems coupled with Vale doing well has affected how some of us see our potential.
We have done great things these last decades,and they are great memories. But it's all relative.
Since our last cup final Cardiff, , Bradford, Swansea, Wigan, Hull, Aston Villa (twice) Crystal Palace, Watford, Southampton and Sunderland have played in finals. It will be an ever growing list. And multiple teams have won promotion since 2008.
Given their branding as local big fans multi billionaires perhaps expecting a little more is to be expected.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jul 2, 2020 19:05:31 GMT
It won't be sold but they're not as good as people suggest they are. Yes the memories are good but we have been left in a worse place than when the Icelandics left.
This is a disaster and a completely unnecessary one. To see Leicester, Wolves and Sheff United all in the top seven whilst we face league one football is awful. Yeah, we have no automatic right to premier league football but we spent £100m+ and had finished 9th for three successive seasons. Pissed it away.
The worst thing is you can see it. If we go down to League One we will outspend all of the division combined and then wonder why we have finished behind Peterborough and Doncaster. We will sign people like Will Grigg whilst Edward's, Collins and Verlinden make no progress in their stoke careers.
Problem is Scholes is unaccountable, and it drips down into the players. Coates Jr has done zero to warrant his position, hes gone into the family business well it's not plumbers it's a big professional football club mate. Coates Sr is also past it.
They can still own the club for all I care but they must get new people to run it.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jul 2, 2020 11:18:41 GMT
Great memories but the club is in a much worse state than when he took over again in 2006.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jul 2, 2020 11:17:15 GMT
Problem is nobody will buy us, we were a tough sell even before covid.
Ultimately we cant spend our way out of our problems. If we go down to League One we will try and out spend the division. And then wonder why we finished behind Peterborough and Doncaster.
We need new people. Coates Jr and Scholes to go, and Coates Sr to step back
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jul 2, 2020 11:15:00 GMT
Have to say enjoyed radio stoke's new commentary set up during lockdown.
Nigel Johbson is better giving views as a co-commentator rather then being the main commentator. And Pete Smith was excellent too.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jun 4, 2020 14:42:37 GMT
I see this thread has inevitably become a shitheap
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 30, 2020 13:17:17 GMT
A fantastic footballer and one of the best we have had in the past 40 years.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is hiding themselves
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 27, 2020 10:22:30 GMT
He had a great 2010-11 season and a decent few years for us but his last four years here were mostly rubbish.
In that relegation season he made a number of mistakes. Not just the Everton red card or the Brighton penalty miss (too unfit to get to the rebound) but giving the ball away against Newcastle or that substitution effort against Leicester where he seemed determined to be sent off.
And yeah most of the players were awful in that season. But there is a theme of the British players like Johnson, Adam, Fletcher getting away with it because we had rubbish foreign players too.
And his going onto the radio to talk about our transfer prospects really left a bad taste in my mouth. The criticism of Shaqiri after his contributions in that season was laughable.
Elsewhere you could count from 2015-16 onwards good performances on one hand
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 28, 2020 8:24:43 GMT
Klopp is within his rights. Liverpool have other priorities this season. It's not disrespecting lower league football. Yes it is Perhaps he should show up himself but there s logic in the u23 team being managed by their coach Lower league has it tough without seeing paranoia everywhere
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 27, 2020 14:21:55 GMT
Klopp is within his rights. Liverpool have other priorities this season.
It's not disrespecting lower league football.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 8, 2020 10:28:40 GMT
Serious questions have to be asked
Too much gambling in football, and I say that as a stoke fan
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 8, 2020 10:28:09 GMT
No. let's move on
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 21, 2019 10:52:43 GMT
The worst signing we have ever made i decided, worse than Berahino.
£13m a lot at the time Disrupted a midfield We have declined massively under him He has been dropped once despite having many more bad games People thinking he's really useful, worst being that includes managers
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 9, 2019 16:39:23 GMT
If he wants to be picked maybe he should get a British passport and then put in 3 years of dross performances whilst seemingly just running about
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 9, 2019 16:36:41 GMT
Why do we put up with it? For years on here and at the ground people peddled the "little old Stoke" rhetoric which for me is a massive hangover of the Pulis era. That we were lucky to simply be gracing the same pitch as the clubs were playing. Playing games away at the top 6 was a "bonus" and we should stay in our lane. Any kind of suggestion that the club could push on to some form of modernity or actual genuine ambition was met with "be careful what you wish for" crap, especially when it came to the summer of 2017 when it was clear that Hughes had gone stale and the squad needed replacing. Try to mention any culpability the Coates may have in this disaster and you're instantly met with the challenge of HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE CUP FINAL THEN or some such irrelevance. Because that's what all those memories count for in this current situation, irrelevance and comfort. Of course I haven't forgotten, they were amazing days for the club but for the last 3.5 years they've ran this club disastrously and need to be held to account. Yet when a fan tried to do this in the Boothen End earlier this year against Forest (albeit clumsily) he was set upon by half the block with people trying to beat the shit out of him in front of his kids. It's pathetic how fucking accepting of failure some of our fans are. Think back 4 years, look where we were and how well we were playing. Now look at the current state of the Premier League, the top 6 is broken wide open and clubs we used to finish above, Leicester, Wolves, Sheffield United have all gone light years ahead of us because they've adapted to the needs of a modern football world, we could have been right up there with them given our resources. It's something the ownership, the club, the city and the fans haven't done at large. The result is what you see now, a club sinking into the third tier with scarcely a whimper...and people still questioning whether we should be making our opinions heard. spot on Our last top half finish was in a season where Leicester, Southampton and West Ham finished above us In our history more than half of our seasons have been in the top flight... To see some basically shrug as we lost our hard earned premier league place was disgraceful
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 9, 2019 12:55:28 GMT
It's not the managers now it's the club it's rotten
The board are useless and yes am including the 'fans' on it
even the capped one would struggle
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