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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2021 21:38:48 GMT
I keep seeing people use injuries as an excuse for the negativity the manager is showing.
Of the outfielders bar Fox and Campbell he’s used the others that would make his best XI.
And with the goalies Bursik is imo better than Davies in this form so the difference isn’t there.
I think his best side would be:
Davies
Collins Souttar Chester Fox
Mikel Allen Clucas
Campbell Fletcher Powell
So he’s got absolutely no excuses for the negativity again. He chooses it. This performance at home for me isn’t acceptable. We started with the aim of a draw again and that is just poor at home.
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Post by nathstoke86 on Jan 2, 2021 21:40:09 GMT
I agree and why the hell verlinden ain’t been given a run
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Post by christhepotter on Jan 2, 2021 21:40:49 GMT
I keep seeing people use injuries as an excuse for the negativity the manager is showing. Of the outfielders bar Fox and Campbell he’s used the others that would make his best XI. And with the goalies Bursik is imo better than Davies in this form so the difference isn’t there. I think his best side would be: Davies Collins Souttar Chester Fox Mikel Allen Clucas Campbell Fletcher Powell So he’s got absolutely no excuses for the negativity again. He chooses it. This performance at home for me isn’t acceptable. We started with the aim of a draw again and that is just poor at home. Pulis mark 2 |
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Post by Little Gary Patel on Jan 2, 2021 21:41:37 GMT
2 goals in the last 6 league matches
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Post by RF10 on Jan 2, 2021 21:41:56 GMT
You say Injuries are not an excuse yet you've named 3 players plus Fletcher who went off tonight who are injured.
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Post by obhstokie on Jan 2, 2021 21:43:01 GMT
Last 10 games have not been good enough for play offs, I predicted somewhere in the 8-12th place bracket at the start of the season and I think that's where we will end up
I think its 5 goals in last 10 games now? Absolutely awful that is
Brown not good enough, vokes not good enough, McLean not good enough. Bang average championship players
If we are serious about going up we need a big January with at least 1 winger and a striker who can stay fit and score goals
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 2, 2021 21:43:04 GMT
He’s received plenty of praise for how he’s turned the club around since his arrival, and rightly so.
At the moment though I can’t imagine there are too managers out there that would get less out of this side. He’s well and truly applied the handbrake and it’s resulting in some of the most turgid shite we’ve seen since the binary season.
Let’s hope we sign a couple of quality attacking players because the manager hasn’t got a clue how to coach a side to attack.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 2, 2021 21:43:42 GMT
2 goals in the last 6 league matches And one of those was the Forest keeper twatting it into his own net. |
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Post by milky on Jan 2, 2021 21:43:46 GMT
I keep seeing people use injuries as an excuse for the negativity the manager is showing. Of the outfielders bar Fox and Campbell he’s used the others that would make his best XI. And with the goalies Bursik is imo better than Davies in this form so the difference isn’t there. I think his best side would be: Davies Collins Souttar Chester Fox Mikel Allen Clucas Campbell Fletcher Powell So he’s got absolutely no excuses for the negativity again. He chooses it. This performance at home for me isn’t acceptable. We started with the aim of a draw again and that is just poor at home. To be fair we weren't especially negative when Fletcher was on. His replacement was nowhere near good enough though and it was downhill from then as an attacking threat. Certain players not able to pass to team mates doesnt help either. |
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Post by potterburt on Jan 2, 2021 21:45:33 GMT
Eerrrrrrr.......,
Negativity, excuses?.......
Perhaps maybe a manager making do with a ramshackle lot that he’s got left over to try and do a job?
We did just didn’t get thumped by a team that is still mid/level prem level and has been scoring for fun!
The team you’ve outlined looks great, but a few of those are injured so not sure why it’s in your post?
....I’m sure your main issue as to not getting anything this eve was because we MoNs a dick and didn’t play Verlinden as always 🥱 😴
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Post by chamberlain on Jan 2, 2021 21:45:40 GMT
I keep seeing people use injuries as an excuse for the negativity the manager is showing. Of the outfielders bar Fox and Campbell he’s used the others that would make his best XI. And with the goalies Bursik is imo better than Davies in this form so the difference isn’t there. I think his best side would be: Davies Collins Souttar Chester Fox Mikel Allen Clucas Campbell Fletcher Powell So he’s got absolutely no excuses for the negativity again. He chooses it. This performance at home for me isn’t acceptable. We started with the aim of a draw again and that is just poor at home. I know someone more negative than Michael I'll give you 3 guesses. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2021 21:46:10 GMT
It’s true, we are 4 or 5 players short of top 2 in this division
Tonight was always going to be 0-0, or 0-1
Would have put my house on it.
We are decent striker away from top 6, but we have improved on last season, and we have to be happy with that
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Post by Ron on Jan 2, 2021 21:46:24 GMT
Nope. No excuses. Our performance at home post lockdown last season were good.
However We’ve been poor at home before Campbell was injured this season. Our problem is we just can’t create anything at all. Our only creative option isn’t being used ( verlinden).
We’re not being helped by poor form of McClean too he has been appalling lately. Brown too has had enough chances.. he really really is appalling.
We are in desperate need of new blood but where’s the value in Jan? Loans the best option or a small fee for someone out of contract in the summer. But the proven championship firepower or creativity isn’t going to be available in jan.
We might get lucky. If we don’t we’re not going anywhere mid table beckons.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jan 2, 2021 21:46:29 GMT
I agree and why the hell verlinden ain’t been given a run Because he’s shit ? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2021 21:47:19 GMT
Eerrrrrrr......., Negativity, excuses?....... Perhaps maybe a manager making do with a ramshackle lot that he’s got left over to try and do a job? We did just didn’t get thumped by a team that is still mid/level prem level and has been scoring for fun! The team you’ve outlined looks great, but a few of those are injured so not sure why it’s in your post? ....I’m sure your main issue as to not getting anything this eve was because we MoNs a dick and didn’t play Verlinden as always 🥱 😴 He could pick a way better side but he chooses not to. There was no attacking intent. He wanted the point again. We were meant to be the home side but played like the away side. It was fucking awful again. Another lost at home. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2021 21:47:56 GMT
I agree and why the hell verlinden ain’t been given a run Because he’s shit ? He’s not though is he and he’s certainly better than McClean and Brown. |
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Post by collo68 on Jan 2, 2021 21:48:23 GMT
I keep seeing people use injuries as an excuse for the negativity the manager is showing. Of the outfielders bar Fox and Campbell he’s used the others that would make his best XI. And with the goalies Bursik is imo better than Davies in this form so the difference isn’t there. I think his best side would be: Davies Collins Souttar Chester Fox Mikel Allen Clucas Campbell Fletcher Powell So he’s got absolutely no excuses for the negativity again. He chooses it. This performance at home for me isn’t acceptable. We started with the aim of a draw again and that is just poor at home. What a load of rubbish, anyone can see that all we need is a couple of attacking options and with Mikel, Allen and Clucas we will climb the league |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2021 21:49:15 GMT
I keep seeing people use injuries as an excuse for the negativity the manager is showing. Of the outfielders bar Fox and Campbell he’s used the others that would make his best XI. And with the goalies Bursik is imo better than Davies in this form so the difference isn’t there. I think his best side would be: Davies Collins Souttar Chester Fox Mikel Allen Clucas Campbell Fletcher Powell So he’s got absolutely no excuses for the negativity again. He chooses it. This performance at home for me isn’t acceptable. We started with the aim of a draw again and that is just poor at home. What a load of rubbish, anyone can see that all we need is a couple of attacking options and with Mikel, Allen and Clucas we will climb the league We’ve got an attacking option that he won’t use. He doesn’t want to win games. |
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Post by chamberlain on Jan 2, 2021 21:49:51 GMT
It’s true, we are 4 or 5 players short of top 2 in this division Tonight was always going to be 0-0, or 0-1 Would have put my house on it. We are decent striker away from top 6, but we have improved on last season, and we have to be happy with that Spot on mate |
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Post by chad on Jan 2, 2021 21:50:16 GMT
I keep seeing people use injuries as an excuse for the negativity the manager is showing. Of the outfielders bar Fox and Campbell he’s used the others that would make his best XI. And with the goalies Bursik is imo better than Davies in this form so the difference isn’t there. I think his best side would be: Davies Collins Souttar Chester Fox Mikel Allen Clucas Campbell Fletcher Powell So he’s got absolutely no excuses for the negativity again. He chooses it. This performance at home for me isn’t acceptable. We started with the aim of a draw again and that is just poor at home. So losing your entire strike force from that line up shouldn’t be a problem then |
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Post by lancashirelad on Jan 2, 2021 21:50:25 GMT
Injuries have hindered the team but a few players have stepped up.
It is just we do not have real like for like replacements (for our creative/goal getters) thus system changes which certainly kill any chance of scoring many goals. A few players are disappointing and their quality in passes and vision is killing any creativity.
The top 5 have guaranteed promotion/play off places and now 1 place for about 10 teams to battle for. My pre season prediction of finishing 8th - 14th i will stick by.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 2, 2021 21:50:53 GMT
He can't do anything more with the players he's got. He's had no luck with injuries. I'll be angry if we don't bring in a couple of new faces but definitely won't criticize the manager who's doing a great job
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Post by potterburt on Jan 2, 2021 21:50:56 GMT
I agree and why the hell verlinden ain’t been given a run Because he’s shit ? No he’s not shit! Bayern - our almighty stoke saviour has been banging the drum about nothing for ages that has not been seen by anyone else and so we must all must be worthy to the almighty mis-information giver and one loner thinker that is our ultimate and enlightened forum poster! |
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Post by shaun888 on Jan 2, 2021 21:51:19 GMT
Sky commentator said he's sure O'Neill will have already made phone calls. I hope he's right and that we have a striker in for the Leicester game. With Campbell injured, Fletcher more crocked than fit and Brown not effective, it's little wonder we are not scoring. And as for Vokes - he is not, never has been and never can be the answer - he's not even the question. But who can we actually get? That's the real problem.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jan 2, 2021 21:51:40 GMT
He’s not though is he and he’s certainly better than McClean and Brown. Based on what ? |
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Post by potterburt on Jan 2, 2021 21:52:48 GMT
Eerrrrrrr......., Negativity, excuses?....... Perhaps maybe a manager making do with a ramshackle lot that he’s got left over to try and do a job? We did just didn’t get thumped by a team that is still mid/level prem level and has been scoring for fun! The team you’ve outlined looks great, but a few of those are injured so not sure why it’s in your post? ....I’m sure your main issue as to not getting anything this eve was because we MoNs a dick and didn’t play Verlinden as always 🥱 😴 He could pick a way better side but he chooses not to. There was no attacking intent. He wanted the point again. We were meant to be the home side but played like the away side. It was fucking awful again. Another lost at home. I’d love see you in the dugout for 2 seconds, let alone 5 minutes on the training pitch with any professional and come on here after with the ultimate quadswapple that you do! |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 2, 2021 21:54:21 GMT
It’s true, we are 4 or 5 players short of top 2 in this division Tonight was always going to be 0-0, or 0-1 Would have put my house on it. We are decent striker away from top 6, but we have improved on last season, and we have to be happy with that Bar perhaps Reading in the top 6 the squads of the teams above us are far superior. Put Toney, or Sarr, or Ayew, or Josh King, or Pukki in our team and the difference is immense. We are a work in progress and I think we’re a handful of points better off than I expected at this point. A few less injuries and we might have been even better off, but we are where we are and need to bring in a couple urgently to energise the squad...... |
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Post by cheadlestokie on Jan 2, 2021 21:55:06 GMT
Look since getting relegated we have wasted pretty much all the transfer windows
We are basically only now starting to put right the disastrous problems we were faced with from the Prem
We have been without Campbell and basically Fletcher now for some weeks
Tonight we were really negative
We had more possession,more attempts at goal,more on target and more touches in the opponent’s box than Bournemouth
I’ll say the obvious,we are just missing a goal scorer at the moment
Getting some experienced players back showed us to be a better team than we have been over the last few weeks when they have been out
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 2, 2021 21:56:23 GMT
Oatcake classics over the years...
March - goals are irrelevant
Bayern - he doesn't want to win games
🤦♂️
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Post by Pirate on Jan 2, 2021 21:56:31 GMT
Massive test for MON this January window & the remainder of the season, can he fashion not only a 9 men behind the ball defensive outfit but does he have the ability to fashion the attacking unit to go with it? Without the maverick talent he inherited in Campbell?
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