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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 22, 2015 10:50:12 GMT
Does anyone here agree that the corners could be filled in, or am I being silly... An interesting hypothesis. I am surprised that it hasn't been discussed before...
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 21, 2015 12:04:52 GMT
Well done mate. Superbly fantastic news.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 21, 2015 12:00:36 GMT
I couldn't personally give a shite whether you like Stoke City or not, though the fact that you have written three separate articles berating our club would suggest an agenda that you stick rigidly to irrespective of the facts. I would direct you to Andy Dunn's independent view of the football club, a far more balanced view of where we are, and what we bring to the Premier League. The link for you is below; www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/britannia-rules-stoke-example-every-5425266 What I really object to is the article itself. I appreciate that the internet gives any halfwit with a keyboard access to share their opinions with the general public, but I cannot understand why any publication would allow themselves to be linked with your opinions. Even this one doesn't go anywhere, it's idle, literally pointless nonsense relying heavily on an opinion of Stoke City formed 7 years ago. From my perspective, I wish we wouldn't give this nonsense the oxygen of publicity. It's crap, ill informed and badly written and I only read it because everyone seemed so angry about it. It's not even overly offensive, it's just shite. My genuine hope it that at some point we stop being so precious as a supporter group and accept the fact that some will never like us and will shoehorn facts into their personal opinion. Let them do it. This barely literate dickhead will write exactly the same nonsense next year now, so let's ensure that we treat it with the contempt and attention it so rightly deserves. None.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 14, 2015 12:22:43 GMT
Thanks Fornie. I think that's madness myself, but on the whole the club do a fantastic job keeping prices as low as possible, i guess this is one of the things that has to give way.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 14, 2015 10:54:44 GMT
Anyone know how much they are? Got a mate of mine who is a mature student and thinking about having one if he can afford it. Been on the official website but couldn't see any data...
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 13, 2015 12:28:08 GMT
I've got a John Gidman mullet wig from the late 80's.
I haven't actually. That's completely untrue.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 13, 2015 12:24:57 GMT
I think the point has been made clear enough. Not that it will stop me.
For those in their 20's, you might not really know who Bobby Moore was, or his standing in the game. Fair enough, but there's plenty on here and in the Britannia on a Saturday that do, and they have every right to be offended.
It's not banter, any more than lobbing a fucking banana at a Black player is banter. It's too easy now to remove any kind of personal responsibility under the auspices of humour. Bollocks. Moore transcended West Ham United and is fondly, very fondly remembered as a bastion of how an Englishman could play the game of football. What happened to him in his last years was a disgrace, and I know that Moore's treatment at West Ham in his final years is a source of great shame to many West Ham fans, fans who were oblivious how one of it's greatest sons were being treated.
Absolutely fucking disgraceful.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 13, 2015 12:01:10 GMT
I don't get upset or ask them to sign my pants if I see them in the street. There's an age where that should be inconsequential and it passed for me over 20 years ago…. Damn! I'm 25 and enjoy meeting the players I agree with pretty much everything you said from start to finish but I do think it is nice just to treat your fans like people not the plague but I've never been famous so I couldn't imagine how annoying it is being hounded 24/7 and so closely scrutinized. My Dad was telling me a story about how the players in the early 70's used to stop on the way back from games and have a drink with the fans in a pub in Church Lawton. They may have been less inclined to had they had the facility to check on their phones to see everyone calling them useless twats every time they lost (again, me included. no finger pointing). I just think it's the way it is. I grew up in a village where the lead singer of Led Zeppelin, Robert Plant, lived (and still does). Remember him saying once that if he walked in and bought a round, everyone called in a flash prick, if he just bought his own he'd be called a tight prick. he couldn't win so he stopped trying. There might just be an element fo this at play.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 13, 2015 11:47:00 GMT
Oz would do a fine job of hosting a World Cup in my opinion. Also the climate would be ideal.
So given that the weather is perfect and the natives not only love their sport but are knowledgeable about it, plus their infrastructure is in place and the grounds would probably need an update rather than vastly expensive white elephants being constructed, they've got fuck all chance.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 13, 2015 11:22:41 GMT
What was @oatcakemeltdown? I must have been asleep.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 13, 2015 11:20:43 GMT
(sets himself up for a public rebuking but takes a deep breath…)
Basically, suppporters are equally as culpable as players with regards to this issue. We live in a 24 hour, round the clock media society where people blog, criticise and harrangue players online to their hearts content. There was a bloke on twitter who wrote a fairly lengthy and vitriolic blog about SCFC on Saturday, when he clearly wasn't at the game (not the first time, apparently) - why? You weren't fucking there? Your frame of reference was a dodgy feed from Al-Jazeera, and on this basis you write a stinging rebuke? Fuck off.
I don't know any Stoke players, but I do know some (mostly ex now) players, and they used to check the messageboards constantly either to feed their ego's (which are considerable and required, given their profession) or to indulge in some macabre ritual when a team's support had turned against them. I can guarantee that most of the Stoke players will go on here from time to time. What do they get? Half arsed fucking opinions from people who haven't been to the game, or a general slagging for having the audacity to be picked to play ahead of X or Y. I know this, 'cos I have done a bit of it myself.
Players should make the effort for kids. It's important to be role models and it's great to hear of players that do that, but for the gurning 40-odd years olds who paint their beards? Not for me. I love football and my club in particular, but this group aren't my role models, they're employees. I share my own ill-informed opinions of them on here when the mood takes but I don't get upset or ask them to sign my pants if I see them in the street. There's an age where that should be inconsequential and it passed for me over 20 years ago….
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 13, 2015 10:20:13 GMT
One from the old days.....
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 13, 2015 8:30:42 GMT
You should have declared yourself a Stoke City fan, then asked him about his skincare routine. And not made any reference to football.
He struck me as a man who knows what it is to cleanse, tone AND moisturise
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 9, 2015 11:30:57 GMT
I think the other thing to say is that he's no longer a professional footballer, he is trying to establish himself as pundit. Given that Man Utd have their own TV station, and virtually every media outlet remains fixated on them, he is just protecting his career by appearing extensively knowledgeable on the machinations of those fucking shitkickers.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 8, 2015 13:49:20 GMT
Have to be honest, he was never my favourite player.
When he came to us he was finished, we sorted him out, got his head right and helped him get some some form. It was clear from TP's first season back that Stoke were a club on the way up and he couldn't piss off quick enough to Sunderland, only returning when we, and TP, were the only ones prepared to pay his Premier League wages.
I know he's got a good media profile these days, and the best of luck to him, but he's filed under bang average for me.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 7, 2015 7:42:18 GMT
Just finished the second of his books, to be honest not particularly illuminating. The first one was OK though.
Anyone got any ideas as to who it might be? I have run through a number of players and Danny Murphy keeps sticking in my mind.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 2, 2015 12:09:44 GMT
It's a soundbite for the home town paper. I cannot see how it matters much.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 2, 2015 10:56:24 GMT
Jones for me also.
Danny Collins was shite, but it wasn't his fault that a)he was picked; or b) the irrational amount of money we spent on him.
Jones on the other hand had all the talent in the world and chose not to use it. Shithouse.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 1, 2015 23:33:54 GMT
Redknapp leaves clubs in a mess. Regardless of who Big Sam signs he always leaves clubs in a better state than when he took over. Taking Bolton from the Championship to Europe is/was a fantastic feat and brought a lot of money to the club.
Redknapp - Cockney wide boy, plays good football, wins a trophy - cunt. Allardyce - gruff northerner, wins fuck all, likes to hoof it - great manager.
We get where you're coming from.
Big Sam is from Dudley. True story. ay it.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 31, 2015 20:32:11 GMT
Forgot to renew my ticket until now. "you are currently number 27 in the queue"........ Oopsie Daisies..... Are you the poor sod in some sort of metal cagework in the Seddons or whatever it's called now? No, but if you've ever been in the boothen and seen a perfectly capable bloke appear to put a limp on, that's probably me. Except the limp is real. Fuck me, cages?
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 31, 2015 13:01:54 GMT
Once Bojan is in the team, Diouf's real worth will be there for all to see. He'll stretch the game so our little magician can can have the space to play. Losing Bojan has left us playing a more compressed, shortened form of the game i believe Hughes wants to play. Ireland has oodles of talent, but not the pace or the attacking intent
I remain convinced that Bojan & Diouf will be a fantastic strike force for Stoke going forward.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 31, 2015 12:52:27 GMT
Though my circumstances are different having lived in the West Mids all my life, i have no animosity to Vale at all really. I simply regard them as a kind of harmless, simpleton brother. Yes, we were treated as equals for a brief period, but the simpleton gene has proper kicked in now, and whilst we have gone to University, pulled a corker and found our dream job, they are stuck at home, licking windows and looking for something to chew.
Don't waste anger, anger eats away and suggests in some way there's an equality. Use pity sparingly and be patronising whenever possible. Our games in the North West are Liverpool, Manchester United & Manchester City. Theirs are Bury, Rochdale & Fleetwood. If they're lucky.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 31, 2015 10:21:19 GMT
Fucking hell, this makes Tel and OS' graveyard shifts of times gone by look relatively interesting... And you can fuck right off merkin. You shouldn't mock the afflicted. Terrible bloke
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 31, 2015 9:21:21 GMT
There might be more (and better) seats available when they have the "swap week". If so you'd be better renewing now and then swapping. Thanks Fornie, they told me to keep an eye out for that. I need to move seats because i had some work done on my left knee - i need an aisle seat really (they currently, and pretty kindly, let me sit in the disabled section when available) because as we are all aware the standard seats don't do much in the way of legroom. All renewed anyway, painless process in fairness.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 31, 2015 8:45:00 GMT
Need to swap my seat mate.
Down to no. 6 now anyway, so it's not bad really. Shifting along well...
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 31, 2015 8:21:28 GMT
Forgot to renew my ticket until now.
"you are currently number 27 in the queue"........
Oopsie Daisies.....
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 24, 2015 12:49:54 GMT
Jesus Christ, Stoke TV would be fucking turbo dreadful. 98% of the shite posted on here is mindless nonsense(including my own ill-conceived opinions), the thought of translating this written madness into a televised format fills me with horror. Imagine if you will…….
7:00 - 8:00 - The Fornside Hour Lakeland Potter walks us through a variety of subjects that he knows better than anyone else at any point. Ever.
8:00 - 9:00 - The Legend Slot Ilford Dave walks us through a variety of ill-informed opinions, tries to join in with some raucous banter, then threatens to sue in the last ten minutes of the show and sets up his own youtube channel because all stoke fans are wankers anyway especially that UN-PC lot and you can all fuck off anyway because I went to a game once and someone called me a legend so fuck off a lot.
9:00 - 9:30 - Grumble & Grumble Host Vestan Pance once again moans for half an hour about how everything is shitter than it used to be, but especially the Oatcake because it used to be funny and now it isn't and that's because it was loads better 10 years ago even though the football was desperate and now we've been to a Cup Final and that was nice but I miss my old friends and am bored frequently when I come on and that means it's shitter and not that I have in any way changed.
9:30 - Close - Question Time An opportunity to ask a panel of supporters any question you like regarding Stoke City Football Club, except as ever it fucking degenerates into farce because someone is bound to mention Tony fucking Pulis and then RAF will call someone a cunt and then everyone will mention all the good charity work he does so he can't be all that bad and he's the best thing that's ever happened to our club, quite ognoring the fact that the volume of money he was given is incredulous by anyone's standards. After 4 hours of mindless shite the vast majority of people don't care about we will move to our outside broadcast team, who will beam back footage of the scrap next to Stan's statue, because they are the rules that go back years and we should stick to them.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 23, 2015 13:14:08 GMT
Agree with the points made. Rugby is light years ahead both in their on the pitch activity, but equally as importantly their ability to cite a player that brings the game into disrepute after the event. It is nonsensical for FIFA to entrench professional football into some sort of Corinthian state of amateur chivalry. Professional football has no moral barometer whatsoever these days so it should be treated with the contempt the players deserve.
A point I would like to add however; I chose to stay in the West Midlands and watch the rugby rather than attend Saturday's game (my season ticket wasn't used either, oh the shame) and what I found interesting was not just the manner in which the players respect the referee, but vice-versa also. The referees clearly defined any issue, were keen to point out good activity on the pitch and where necessary, a good two-way dialogue occurred between captain and official, all designed for the betterment of the game, and ultimately the spectacle of the sport.
Compare that with Martin Atkinson. Whilst not overly adept at lip reading, every decision he made was met with either "shut up" or "go away" at any player that approached to question. I don't want to see ref's harangued, but I do believe that respect is a two way street and our senior officials don't help themselves. Imagine being at your desk today and your boss telling you to shut up and go away every time you sought clarification on a point. You'd soon think he/she is a tool.
The referees association have to take some sort of action after what has been an horrendous season. It starts with accountability on a personal level, and the honesty to say that support is required given the pace and spirit in which the game is played. Do those simple things and they go some way to repairing their tarnished image, do nothing and, realistically, the refereeing profession is in dire trouble.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 23, 2015 12:26:52 GMT
It was an interesting insight into the lives of players in the early 80's (i still find it remarkable it was so recent). Sadly the timing of the programme, given the incident in Paris, probably overshadows the hard work done by a lot of people to change the perception of Chelsea FC.
It's not hard to find out who the "unnamed" player is by the way. For those of us at a certain age, you won't like him anyway have a certain incident at the old Boothen Paddock. It's seem even more a shame that the fans weren't allowed on the pitch to "air their views" to the player in question.
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 20, 2015 11:59:05 GMT
If an England manager had visited the Victoria Ground in the 1940's he would have watched a Stoke City side made up of mainly English players, and would have selected Neil Franklin, Stanley Matthews and Freddie Steele. If Roy Hodgson visits the Brit he gets to watch one or two English players turning out for Stoke, with the only real candidate being Ryan Shawcross, and people wonder why he never watches Stoke play. Managing England now must be one of the most difficult jobs in football with expectation levels still high and yet with a decline in both quantity and quality of English players in the Premier League. Dear Geoff. In the 1940s, football wasn't universally televised and recorded to allow the then England football manager to take a look at specific players over the course of a season. Also, in the 1940s, Opta stats didn't exist giving the then England manager a critical statistical overview of a player's achievements and reliability. Also not available in the 1940s were things like heat maps, bleep tests and the opportunity to request that a club records a specific player. Transport links have improved over time too. And the telephone still exists. There is absolutely no excuse, no excuse whatsoever for Hodgson flatly refusing to cast an objective critical eye over Shawcross. Particularly when everyone can see with one eye that Hodgson picks players that he likes rather than players either in form, or have the right level of public credibility. Your defence of Hodgson with regard to Shawcross is baffling. He is simply being prejudicial based on either the club he plays for or that one quarter hour for England when he, in my honest opinion, hung him out to dry. He is a footballing snob, his dislike for Stoke under Pulis was equally transparent. Both Hodgson and Pulis can't be both right yet you proclaim Pulis a great Stoke manager and Hodgson is right for England, and right not to pick Shawcross. I don't get your position one jot. That's an excellent response. Hodgson has had the easiest ride of any England manager certainly in my living memory. The level of expectation had dropped to such an extent that even the abysmal showing in the World Cup didn't really put a dent in his employment prospects. He is a dreadful, dreadful football manager. An apologist, bereft of ideas or a coherent strategy or an ability to extract a basic level of perfromance out of the English national team. He is the quintessential yes man, a bumbling dinosaur. The reason that Shawcross isn't picked is because of his lack of courage, not because of Ryan's lack of ability. He is easily Cahill's equal in any regard you can think of. I really, genuinely, absolutely want him to fuck off with immediate effect, and would gladly tell him to his face. There is little in life I like less than a fucking lickspittle, and this twat has made a living out of it.
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