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Post by Vestan Pance on Apr 7, 2015 7:42:18 GMT
Just finished the second of his books, to be honest not particularly illuminating. The first one was OK though.
Anyone got any ideas as to who it might be? I have run through a number of players and Danny Murphy keeps sticking in my mind.
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 7, 2015 7:45:31 GMT
I think it's generally accepted that Dave Kitson is the man responsible.
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Post by choppyc on Apr 7, 2015 7:47:04 GMT
I'll have to re-read the first one Vastan ...because personally I read it with Dave Kitsons 'voice' in my head as the narrator ...filling in the details around his teammates & clubs ....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 8:18:39 GMT
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Post by Gods on Apr 7, 2015 8:25:43 GMT
I must admit I find this whole 'Secret Footballer' concept immensely irritating
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Post by clarkeda on Apr 7, 2015 9:06:36 GMT
I always thought it was Kitson.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 7, 2015 9:16:12 GMT
Just before anyone does, can I point out that saying 'I blame Kitson' on any thread in relation to anything stopped being funny in about 2010 and is officially the new 'he used to play for Juventus you know'?
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Post by metalhead on Apr 7, 2015 9:19:09 GMT
I must admit I find this whole 'Secret Footballer' concept immensely irritating Why? He wrote about some quite taboo subjects that others wouldn't go for.
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Post by Gods on Apr 7, 2015 9:51:13 GMT
I must admit I find this whole 'Secret Footballer' concept immensely irritating Why? He wrote about some quite taboo subjects that others wouldn't go for. Perhaps but it screams 'ghost written' and for ghost written read 'made up by a professional author', so loudly at you that you are left thinking that the presence of any footballer behind it in any way shape or form is simply a convenience to lend it a small fragment of credibility. Just my personal opinion of course.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 7, 2015 9:54:23 GMT
It's a load of crap IMO. I read about a third of the first one and realising it was probably written by some half-arsed football journo wanting to stir it up a bit, make a few bob with much that we already thought was happening and a few eyebrow raisers that could never be verified, I sent it packing to the charity shop.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 7, 2015 11:07:45 GMT
Why? He wrote about some quite taboo subjects that others wouldn't go for. Perhaps but it screams 'ghost written' and for ghost written read 'made up by a professional author', so loudly at you that you are left thinking that the presence of any footballer behind it in any way shape or form is simply a convenience to lend it a small fragment of credibility. Just my personal opinion of course. Heh. No idea. I imagine that most autobiographies are now ghost written. You really think Wayne Rooney wrote his autobiography? Considering he probably entertains himself by swinging from a tyre, I doubt that's very likely. Kitson always came across a fairly smart bloke, so I imagine it's mostly his words with some hollywood attached to it. Whether that's right or wrong, who knows?
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Post by 2004 on Apr 7, 2015 11:13:58 GMT
Kitson
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Post by Linx on Apr 7, 2015 11:17:21 GMT
The image of Rooney swinging from a tyre just won't get out of my head.
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 7, 2015 13:08:38 GMT
Why? He wrote about some quite taboo subjects that others wouldn't go for. Perhaps but it screams 'ghost written' and for ghost written read 'made up by a professional author', so loudly at you that you are left thinking that the presence of any footballer behind it in any way shape or form is simply a convenience to lend it a small fragment of credibility. Just my personal opinion of course. I don't think it is ghost written, personally. No way of proving it one way or the other but I remember a piece by a Guardian sports editor stating that they were genuinely surprised at the quality of the writing when they received the first submission. I know they could just make that up to add some authenticity, but I wouldn't necessarily assume that being a footballer instantly makes someone incapable of stringing together a few reasonably well-crafted sentences.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 14:19:45 GMT
Just before anyone does, can I point out that saying 'I blame Kitson' on any thread in relation to anything stopped being funny in about 2010 and is officially the new 'he used to play for Juventus you know'? and what exactly is wrong with the "Used to play for Juventus" line Rob?? have you lost your sense of humour....Jesus Hates Christ!
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 7, 2015 14:53:46 GMT
I think it's generally accepted that Dave Kitson is the man responsible. Has to be. He went to great lengths to cover up his identity. For example, after his 5 million transfer to Stoke, just as people were starting to say "Hold on this fella looks a real footballer", he did all he could to demonstrate he was in no way, shape or form remotely related to a footballer. He was most definitely a "secret" footballer for Stoke. I imagine he probably had a full size goal in his garden so, after another long game forcing himself to miss sitters, he could go home and twat ball after ball into the top corner.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 7, 2015 15:44:05 GMT
Kitson acted like a dick but he wasn't treated brilliantly either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 16:16:31 GMT
I've read the original book and if it's Kitson he used a fair bit of poetic licence because much of it didn't stack up to events that actually happened.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 7, 2015 16:30:44 GMT
Fuck me if it's ghost written they made a very bad choice of ghost. There's no way that's written by a professional writer.
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Post by salopstick on Apr 7, 2015 17:58:09 GMT
I think it's generally accepted that Dave Kitson is the man responsible. Has to be. He went to great lengths to cover up his identity. For example, after his 5 million transfer to Stoke, just as people were starting to say "Hold on this fella looks a real footballer", he did all he could to demonstrate he was in no way, shape or form remotely related to a footballer. He was most definitely a "secret" footballer for Stoke. I imagine he probably had a full size goal in his garden so, after another long game forcing himself to miss sitters, he could go home and twat ball after ball into the top corner. When you have luminous hair all the lengths in the works won't conceal your identity
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Post by bardosboot on Apr 7, 2015 19:07:02 GMT
It is Kitson, and he's full of shit.
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Post by onionman on Apr 7, 2015 19:22:33 GMT
In his new book, he claims that immediately after his Stoke debut he told Pulis he wanted a transfer and regretted signing for the club, because he didn't like our style of play.
If we assume Kitson's telling the truth here, then it's hardly surprising Pulis thought he was a wanker.
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Post by kjpt140v on Apr 7, 2015 22:48:42 GMT
Not this boring subject again. I can't imagine anybody reading the second one after that poor excuse of a first one.
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Post by basingstokie on Dec 18, 2015 14:45:07 GMT
Just read the last book (access all areas) and seems certain it is Kitson now. In The last chapter he writes at length about a team mate playing away at West Ham not tracking back and then getting slapped - without naming them at Griffin and Fuller, but no need TBH
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 18, 2015 14:48:03 GMT
Just read the last book (access all areas) and seems certain it is Kitson now. In The last chapter he writes at length about a team mate playing away at West Ham not tracking back and then getting slapped - without naming them at Griffin and Fuller, but no need TBH How many books are there in total? Think I've only read the first one.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 18, 2015 14:53:15 GMT
Any half decent author or journalist with a knowledge of the game could write those books.
The fact he never named names or clubs screams to me that its all purely fiction. Maybe loosely based around stories that the author had heard.
I found the book I read extremely irritating because I felt the stories never went in to enough depth and without naming names and clubs it was all a bit pointless.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 16:44:43 GMT
Wasn't Dave Kitson Ginger GD
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Post by Gods on Dec 18, 2015 16:58:53 GMT
Any half decent author or journalist with a knowledge of the game could write those books. The fact he never named names or clubs screams to me that its all purely fiction. Maybe loosely based around stories that the author had heard. I found the book I read extremely irritating because I felt the stories never went in to enough depth and without naming names and clubs it was all a bit pointless. I agree, it's every player and no player, fiction and fact and faction, an agglomeration of truths and half truths with a sprinkling of fairy dust...
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Post by cerebralstokie on Dec 18, 2015 18:28:37 GMT
I have a friend who currently lives in Hong Kong who claims James Beattie as a friend and his twitter address is @ Secret Footballer. Does this mean anything? (As a "crumbly" I don't have very much to do with social media!)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 18:36:38 GMT
Wasn't Dave Kitson Ginger GDAnd?.
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