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Post by MuddyWoody on May 20, 2013 9:37:57 GMT
In your opinion. Wasn't great but unlike three other clubs we are still there. And yes people are getting above themselves, we finished more or less where we should have done. Thirteenth highest wages. I don't see how anyone who's followed us and has any degree of ambition can consider it one. We've finished 13th but with our lowest points total since promotion, after another dishwater dull, goal-free campaign and in a season that featured a terrible run that lasted almost half the season. We went into this season with hopes of pushing on. We had thafWe'd lost no significant first teamers, signed loads more of them, and with no Europe to tire us it was expected we could get back to how we were playing at the end of 10/11 and have a crack at the top 10. Improving on last season should have been the bare minimum expectation but we've finished with less points. ......and all that in, what is generally accepted to have been, a much worse league this year!
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 17, 2013 14:47:03 GMT
It's obvious that a lot on here want fancy football, just like Wigan, Reading and QPR and TP to leave. Just a thought.... does that mean you anti TP types would like us relegated? I think so!Nope. I'd think that goes without saying! Would just like a little more ambition on the pitch. Like actually trying to win games when we're 1 up and a man up!
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 17, 2013 13:35:13 GMT
The thought of another season with him in charge makes my heart sink. I don't know what to think. One minute I'm optimistic he's leaving, then I think he's staying and am consumed with woe If he is going then he gives away absolutely no hints that he is. I can't take a single detail from any of his comments and construe them as words that point to his exit. Bit depressing. I agree.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 17, 2013 13:16:48 GMT
Well it is either the biggest con trick of all time or we may have to face the fact that he is staying; all the signs are that he is, notwithstanding the bookies and sightings of Hughton in the area. If he is going, then I will never take seriously anything PC says ever again. If he is not going then shame on the pair of them for allowing this mess to destabilise the team and cause such unrest amongst the fans. This is what I don't understand. If TP is staying and PC always intended him to carry on why on earth didn't they come out and say so in a manner that left no room for doubt or interpretation????? Makes you wonder what's going on at the top.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 15, 2013 13:50:27 GMT
The "Steak and Chips" one had me tearing my teeth out.
The "Michael Owen has been an absolutely fantastic signing for this football club, we hope he can play a massive part in the last 9 games" one just beggars belief.
There are many prime examples of outright fuckwittery from TP.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 13:18:25 GMT
Can we get back to the original post and i have to say a significant amount of it i can believe. go for it, would you mind sharing what bits you believe and which bits you don't. A lot of it seemed to make sense and events since have added to it or it could be me seeing conspiracy where there is none. I'm just hoping some of it is true. I really can't see a way forward for the club with TP in charge, which depresses me more than the actual football we are seeing. There is definitely something unusual going on at the club, all the rumours, poeple leaving, new appointments and the odd behaviour of TP all point to some big changes in the offing, to my mind at least.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 12:07:07 GMT
Pulis Out. Rafa In. Job Done I would wake up thinking Christmas had come early. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards I know it's unlikely, but it would be a real coup for the club and I think he'd do a fantastic job.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 12:00:58 GMT
Pulis Out. Rafa In.
Job Done
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 10:47:40 GMT
Please no, he's been fantastic but it's time to go. You can't have a manager with Alzheimer's, he buys the wrong players and then forgets he's bought them!
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 10:25:04 GMT
Despite losing, I was so proud. I couldn't help but feel proud. Even coming away, I was sad, but I wasn't completely distraught, I'd just watched our boys in an FA cup final. A real proud day for Stoke City. Who knows, maybe we'll be there again in a few years? Hope so.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 9:52:28 GMT
Well done woodyfc, I was just about to do the same. I grabbed it from Google cache, so I've also got it saved if this one disappears. Come on admin, tell us what the fuck is going on, or I forward it to the Sentinel, Radio Stoke, Talksport and anyone else who might publicise it. No police state tactics here, please. Great minds
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 9:51:15 GMT
Tonysplanb Second post from thread Also the meeting is at 2pm on Thursday so feel free look for Tony's car Tonysplanb Third post from thread There are 2 sources, transfer info isn't 100% solid and is mainly what gets passed around within the club but the off the field stuff has more weight behind it.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 9:48:29 GMT
First Post In Full
Post by tonysplanb on May 13, 2013 9:57:49 GMT Here is some things I have been told so feel free to read into them as you see fit.
John has stepped up and Peter will take a back foot.
Tony Pulis is leaving, he planned to leave last season but was encouraged to stay by Peter, the same with Rudge too. Reason being is the extra Sky income was too much to lose by taking a gamble on a new manager.
A good few of the backroom staff will also be moved on, we want a complete new approach with fresh ideas.
The new budget will be healthy but the emphasis is on youth with future value, no more high wages and high signings on aging players.
Tony has his final meeting this Thursday with the board. Pay off etc... already agreed.
Tony will say goodbye to the players officially after the game.
Owen has been offered a coaching role in the youth team.
Crouch (West Ham) and Jones are leaving along with Begovic (Arsenal) and Whitehead. Palacios is likely to go to Cardiff.
A new manager has been agreed but I don't know who, I know Houghton has spoke to the club along with his agent but no idea if anything came from it.
The club are taking interest from an American buyer seriously. They have had interest over the past 18 months but not felt it was right. The Coates family feel they have done enough to stabilise the club and will now try and sell for a profit.
We are also looking at the American approach of a General Manager ala Cartwright and a coach to train. They will both work together on targets but the final decision will lie with Cartwright.
Exciting but nervous times over the next few months but the changes off the field will be drastic, on the field it depends on who is in charge.
Oh and we have talked to a couple of Wigans scouting team.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 9:07:02 GMT
No search reveals it - Bermuda New Manager Triangle. Must have been removed, so that it doesn't get in the press - before the final whistle on Sunday. Sorry, my bad, getting mixed up with the "bunnyscfc Collymore Twitter" thread.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 8:46:52 GMT
As Sheikh said, it still comes up if you do a search for "Collymore"
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 8:29:52 GMT
Shhhh! They're listening. That cat looks Evil.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 14, 2013 8:28:12 GMT
If I was the gaffer I think I'd make a point of being at the awards night to show my support to the players.
Sounds like a fob-off of a reason to me.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 13, 2013 12:45:45 GMT
i can't really see Newcastle changing their manager this season though. Pardew has kept them up and has enough excuses regarding injuries and Europa League participation, and enough credit in the bank from last season to have earned another crack at it surely? I imagine it would also cost Toon a fortune to get rid of Pardew now.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 13, 2013 9:58:10 GMT
I would prefer to be without a manager for our last game. We all know what his approach will be anyway. Sent from my HTC Desire HD A9191 using proboards True but I think after what he has done for the club we should be treating him with a bit of respect and let him see the season out then go from there. Totally agree. Pulis should be shown the respect he deserves for what he's done for the club and allowed to leave with dignity. I'm not so sure that Rafa would rule out coming to Stoke though. I think we are a better prospect for a manager than some suggest.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 13, 2013 8:18:36 GMT
It hasn't mattered in previous seasons. We have always slid a few places in the final few games of season. 40 points has been accomplished........job done. Sad but true, at least with Pulis still at the helm.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 10, 2013 10:46:06 GMT
We have a very poor record of bringing young players on, going back what? 30 years? 40 years? 50 years or more I'd say. And located where we are geographically and in terms of status we have no chance of picking up a very good young player in front of the Manchester, Birmingham and Merseyside clubs - as is witnessed by the utterly abject performance of our youngsters this season. And with Crewe so close and with such a fine, richly deserved reputation for bringing on young players who may not have quite made it first time in Manchester or Liverpool we aren't even the best second chance around. The academy was a bit of idealism from Uncle Peter, I think. Our future is definitely not in bringing on kids. I can think of THREE Stoke youths who became regular top-division forwards - Heath, Crooks and, just about, Sean Haslegrave, and one decent midfielder, Bernard; Port Vale have a better record - Earle, Bright, Chamberlain ... We're lucky that we've got money and we are located close enough to so many EPL football clubs that it's easy to recruit decent players who don't want to move from Cheshire. It's out-of favour English guys from Old Trafford, Anfield and so on, and good players from newly relegated Lancashire or west midlands clubs, that we ought to rely on. Pulis is right: the Stoke Academy is a waste of money and a distraction. I don't see any of that as a reason not to try and develop a good academy setup.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 9, 2013 14:42:09 GMT
Huth, Shawcross, N'Zonzi, Adam, Wilko, Wilson, Cameron, CJ, Shea, Deano, Butland, Ness, SJW
We have 7 players out of contract so there are going to be big changes in the summer anyway
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 9, 2013 14:32:39 GMT
This is the sort of comment that has me pulling whats left of my hair out! On the one hand, some of the "Pulis out brigade" have no idea what a fucking unmitigated disaster they might let loose but on the other hand this is absolutely right and perfectly fair. Supporting this club for 40+ years has always been a cross to bear ; God knows why I still bother.......... What did he say that is wrong? What is the point of playing any sport, let alone football, if you don't strive to win? It's comments like this which, to my mind anyway, make it sound like he isn't going to bother trying because what we currently have is all we can rightly expect. And to be honest what we regularly see on the pitch, especially away from home, seems to back this up.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 9, 2013 7:36:46 GMT
I agree with the sentiment. I also think that should Moyes go to Manure he will probably take Felliani and Baines with him. If they get Moyes replacement wrong, and if I was a blue I wouldn't be too happy with those names, they could be well in the shit this time next year.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 1, 2013 12:24:14 GMT
I was amazed when di Mateo actually said in Sky that we would take the job if offered it. Three possibilities: 1. He is begging to be interviewed aka desperate. 2. He has been interviewed and has been told it's his if they have to dump TP 3. As per 2 but he doesn't know the outcome yet. Can't imagine any other reason why he would say that unless of course he is just being a mouthy gob Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards Where and when did he say this? Beat me to it.
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Post by MuddyWoody on Apr 30, 2013 11:22:07 GMT
You'd have to be massively risk averse if you were PC wouldn't you? TP has just delivered on PC's door mat a share of the the new Premier League deal worth just over £3B with Sky Sports and BT, for three years starting in 2013, a cool 70% increase over the previous three year deal. You might say to me, 'well he should have done after 5 years in the Prem and some significant investment'. But it was something the collective might of Brian McDermott, Steve Bruce, Harry Redknapp and probably Roberto Martinez and if not someone else all failed to do for their clubs this season. He has now done it 6 years running. PC is smart enough to know that for all but the super-sized 'big 6' clubs that Premier League continuance is a ball-aching, tiresome, unforgiving, relentless treadmill of an activity. Take your eye of the ball as we did after xmas and don't get straight back on and you are history. I can't see him risking it all and making a change on the premise that the new incumbent may deliver the rather nebulous goal of 'better football' whatever that means. I just, honestly, truly, genuinely, can't see it. I think there is more chance (but not much) that TP may walk stung by the critcism and perhaps wondering why he bothers. I think Gods is probably not wide of the mark. In PC's mind why should he get rid of TP and take a massive punt on an unproven manager, or even one with a slightly dodgy record? If he could get a name of the caliber of Benitez through the door we'd probably be seeing the back of TP, but what are the chances of that happening?
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Post by MuddyWoody on Apr 30, 2013 11:05:10 GMT
Isn't there a possibility that TP could be given the option of moving upstairs into some other role?
Not sure what that role would be though, or even if it would be good for the club.
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Post by MuddyWoody on Apr 30, 2013 9:08:51 GMT
I'd keep:
Butland (cash in on Bego) Sorro Shawcross Huth Wilson Shotton (To be played RB ONLY) Wilko N'zonzi Cameron Adam Shea (because we haven't seen what he can do) Ness (because we haven't seen what he can do) Crouch Jerome
Which would leave us 9 first team places to fill.
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Post by MuddyWoody on Apr 28, 2013 13:49:48 GMT
I think having Adam on the pitch and playing well, in conjunction with having the pace of Jerome up front with Crouch is what's made the difference. Although he's not scored any goals CJ has given us another outlet. His pace and strength creates room for others to run into, as with Adam's goal yesterday, as well as scaring the shite out of opposition defenders.
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Post by MuddyWoody on Apr 27, 2013 16:35:43 GMT
Crap first half, very decent second half that should have seen us comfortably beat Norwich. What a difference a ball player makes to us, hopefully we can still see plenty more of Charlie in the future. A quick word for the ref (and his assistants) and for Norwich themselves. The officials were disgraceful without making any shocking decisions that could be highlighted but it should not detract from what a poor afternoon they had. As for Norwich, well no shots on target with plenty of fouls and taking gamesmanship to new heights. They were like a bad (shit) version of us!! We can watch Match of the Day with a smile and those lovely 40 points to cuddle up to. Thank fook!! Agreed. I thought Adam and CJ were fantastic for us today. Surprised Holt managed to stay on the pitch.
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