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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2013 22:42:07 GMT
You've just witnessed your manager take 6 crucial points from the last two games and virtually guarantee another season in the Premiership. You then switch on your TV tonight and see Aston Villa thrash Di Canio's boys 5-1 ..A man brought in to reverse their abysmal form which in fairness he has partially achieved. Pulis meantime continues to grovel to new depths of desperation to keep his job making sure that at every opportunity the whole 'Coates family' is praised to the hilt. Today he even stated that he would love to continue in his job. Hardly the attitude or words of a man about to retire or prepared to move aside willingly... So , If you were ST Peter , would you reward his loyalty after your man had just earned you another £90 million Premiership jackpot. Would you cast aside the dire football and lack of attacking prowess for another manager thus stabbing Tone in the back..? There's three types of manager essentially... High Risk ...Di Canio , Phil Brown , Gianfranco Zola , Gus Poyet..(Attacking free flowing exponents) Medium Risk ...Mad Mick McCarthy , Steve Bruce , Martin O'Neill Low Risk ...Benitez , Big Sam ,Di Matteo or similar high profile manager The Wild Card.....A FORIEGN manager....Never ...! Who would you put your £ 100 million jackpot on...? www.nicerodds.co.uk/odds-comparison-next-stoke-city-manager#.UX8BZaLU8kg |
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Post by digger on Apr 29, 2013 22:51:05 GMT
pulis or philippe montanier
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Post by pittshillplotter on Apr 29, 2013 22:56:14 GMT
Steve Bould or Alan Shearer...Just not sure what category they would be in ....High risk perhaps...?
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Post by unknown182 on Apr 29, 2013 22:59:44 GMT
If you consider Benitez and Di Matteo low risk then i'd go with either of them.
However in the more likely scenario of no change in manager I'd talk to Pulis about his transfer targets and suggest wingers and fullbacks.
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Post by digger on Apr 29, 2013 23:03:13 GMT
Steve Bould or Alan Shearer...Just not sure what category they would be in ....High risk perhaps...? bonkers category |
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Post by prem4stoke on Apr 29, 2013 23:03:44 GMT
You would be absolutely mad to change
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Post by mark71 on Apr 29, 2013 23:04:17 GMT
I've seen enough of Pulis's transfer policy, bonus games and football tactics in the last 2 seasons to know its time for him to go.
First choice would be Rafa, Second would be big Sam.
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Post by thehoof on Apr 29, 2013 23:07:12 GMT
You would be absolutely ready for Cheddleton if you did not change.
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Post by digger on Apr 29, 2013 23:10:25 GMT
it was
it was 6 1
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2013 23:20:25 GMT
Sorry...6-1. But the issue here is gambling with £100 million of your money... I'm tempted to say that I'd er on the side of caution and impose certain terms and conditions regarding transfer dealings and youth development. I'm not sure what format that might take , or even if it was possible , but I wouldn't want to see another season of Tones reluctance to benefit from such a massive investment in our academy. Everything is in place for a new style of manager perhaps...? www.thesackrace.com/competitions/premier-league |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 29, 2013 23:29:20 GMT
If I was Coats I wouldn't take the risk and would keep TP in the job, considering that he's kept stoke in the league quite comfortably (maybe not this one but if we win another couple the table will look that way) every season.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Apr 29, 2013 23:58:33 GMT
stick with Tony, and get back to real pulis ball, win gers, big center forward, chase down midfieldes and big defenders , great kepeer, who have the Germans been watching /?
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Post by mark71 on Apr 30, 2013 0:13:11 GMT
stick with Tony, and get back to real pulis ball, win gers, big center forward, chase down midfieldes and big defenders , great kepeer, who have the Germans been watching /? If Pulis ball is so great why has he gone away from it? Why has he failed in the transfer market? Why don't we have any wingers? Why don't we have any full backs? Why if we play percentage football do we create so few chances? His time is up, His tactics are bankrupt and he's run out of ideas. Time to move on. |
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Post by potterpaul on Apr 30, 2013 3:18:28 GMT
stick with Tony, and get back to real pulis ball, win gers, big center forward, chase down midfieldes and big defenders , great kepeer, who have the Germans been watching /? I don't know where you get the impression that REAL pulisball is played with Wingers. It is and always as been winger. I quote DK when he told us "two wingers is a luxury". Please forget about TP playing with 2 wingers on a regular basis he stubbles accross it from time to time but never sticks with it. |
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Post by stokesupporter on Apr 30, 2013 5:50:09 GMT
I don't know where you get the impression that REAL pulisball is played with Wingers. It is and always as been winger. I quote DK when he told us "two wingers is a luxury". Please forget about TP playing with 2 wingers on a regular basis he stubbles accross it from time to time but never sticks with it. You got it right. Pulisball = Delap/Shotton/Walters in the other wing, 10 men behind the ball. Some people have short memories, eh? |
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Post by jonnybravo on Apr 30, 2013 6:13:41 GMT
We're not safe yet and if pulis was doing such a great job why is he begging to be given another chance
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2013 6:25:20 GMT
Rafa - hasn't this thread been done a few times now?
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Post by ohbottom on Apr 30, 2013 6:43:21 GMT
stick with Tony, and get back to real pulis ball, win gers, big center forward, chase down midfieldes and big defenders , great kepeer, who have the Germans been watching /? I don't know where you get the impression that REAL pulisball is played with Wingers. It is and always as been winger. I quote DK when he told us "two wingers is a luxury". Please forget about TP playing with 2 wingers on a regular basis he stubbles accross it from time to time but never sticks with it. To put that wingers quote into context, wasn't he talking about away games? In response to "why do we always play so negatively away from home" type criticisms? |
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Post by butler64 on Apr 30, 2013 6:47:08 GMT
What concerns me about some of the names mentioned is that if they did come to Stoke if Pulis were to leave, how long would they stay for? Benitez is mentioned a lot but realistically if he were to come, wouldn't he just jump ship the first time a bigger club comes calling?
For me, the key thing is to make sure that we appoint someone with the aim of making sure there is some stability. Just look how badly wrong Wolves and Blackburn have got it with quickfire managerial changes over the last season.
I have some friends who are Coventry fans and they have on average a new manager every year since they got relegated from the Premiership years ago and they can see no way back from where they are now. If you are going to make a managerial change you have to make sure that you get someone who is going to know that they have at least 2/3 years to make an impact.
Personally given some of the names bandied about, I'd rather stick with Pulis and if I was Peter Coates I'd set him some targets to achieve (not just reaching 40 points).
Cheers
GB
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Post by Binndy on Apr 30, 2013 6:55:35 GMT
If our club was to purchase fit players, earlier in the transfer window and start next season with a complete ,fit , 25 man squad . That was ready to go.Also held onto our more quality players eg Begovic Then the choice of manager does not matter so much. After what Gay neville said last night ,has got me thinking Stoke city need to be winning 12 games per season. Be organized , with a good squad and stoke city will be good under most managers.
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Post by fca47 on Apr 30, 2013 6:57:55 GMT
I'd say Phil Brown is high risk because he is rubbish, not because he attacks. The fact TP has pulled things round will placate a lot of people. Say what you want he still hasn't been relegated, and for a club like us that is important.We definitely need to get rid of this complacency when we have reached safety, that is TP big weakness, lack of ambition. He seems happy to just keep his reputation as a man who's never been relegated. We need to be looking up he table not just reaching 40 points.To be fair to him it is a new situation as he has always been at struggling clubs.
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Post by potterpaul on Apr 30, 2013 7:13:43 GMT
I don't know where you get the impression that REAL pulisball is played with Wingers. It is and always as been winger. I quote DK when he told us "two wingers is a luxury". Please forget about TP playing with 2 wingers on a regular basis he stubbles accross it from time to time but never sticks with it. To put that wingers quote into context, wasn't he talking about away games? In response to "why do we always play so negatively away from home" type criticisms? Correct me if I'm wrong we have had 4 wingers since promotion Lawrence, Ethers, Pennant and Kightly. How many times have we seen any two from that list starting together regularly. Over a period of 5 seasons very little as been seen of two proper wingers home or away. It's just not Pulisball atellsyer |
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Post by alster on Apr 30, 2013 7:14:41 GMT
Right Im in Peters s hoes for a moment. Pulis get in here now. Sit down you're not going to like this. You're sacked .Here's a cheque for the remainder of your contract now fook off and never come back.
Sorry speed was of the essence I only had a moment otherwise Id have done it more tactfully.
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Post by thesandbankskid on Apr 30, 2013 7:17:39 GMT
If Villa stay up and add a couple of experienced quality players they will be a good side next season, no doubt about it.
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Post by thesandbankskid on Apr 30, 2013 7:19:50 GMT
Sven Goran Eriksson, vastly experienced, a fantastic coach, a list of achievements longer than my arm and has a whole host of contacts all over the globe. Players like him and want to play for him aswell. He will also attract a better quality of player that we thought not possible. For me at least, it's a no brainer.
Why give an underqualified manager £100M to spend? It's a gamble at best and very Naive.
Pay him his wages & get him in, it will cost us less in the long run.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Apr 30, 2013 7:28:30 GMT
Rafa without a shadow of a doubt.
Probably unlikely though?
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Post by ColonelMustard on Apr 30, 2013 7:39:31 GMT
Right Im in Peters s hoes for a moment. Pulis get in here now. Sit down you're not going to like this. You're sacked .Here's a cheque for the remainder of your contract now fook off and never come back. Sorry speed was of the essence I only had a moment otherwise Id have done it more tactfully. you would never have had to do it alster, you wouldn't have appointed Pulis and Mike Newell would have us in the champions league with a hundred million |
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Post by alster on Apr 30, 2013 7:43:08 GMT
Right Im in Peters s hoes for a moment. Pulis get in here now. Sit down you're not going to like this. You're sacked .Here's a cheque for the remainder of your contract now fook off and never come back. Sorry speed was of the essence I only had a moment otherwise Id have done it more tactfully. you would never have had to do it alster, you wouldn't have appointed Pulis and Mike Newell would have us in the champions league with a hundred million You're right on point one. As for Newell I may be wrong but I don't remember ever discussing him at all so not sure where that comes from. |
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Post by alster on Apr 30, 2013 7:53:39 GMT
Done my best to check for you mustard but search says my last post was the first containing the word Newell. I don't like posting bollox and will own up when I get things wrong .
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Apr 30, 2013 7:57:48 GMT
Why is Benitez suddenly 40/1 to be the next manager to leave his post? He has always been odds on favourite until recently
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