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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 13:54:27 GMT
The players I really want to stay are Huth, Shawcross, Cameron, and Adam.
Take or leave players include SJW, Shotton, Ethers.
Rest....Won't be too upset if they shown the door, especially our so called strike force.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 13:56:44 GMT
Huth, Shawcross, Begs, N'Zonzi, Adam, i'd keep Deano too and Wilko
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Post by snapper23 on May 9, 2013 13:58:15 GMT
The players I really want to stay are Huth, Shawcross, Cameron, and Adam. Take or leave players include SJW, Shotton, Ethers. Rest....Won't be too upset if they shown the door, especially our so called strike force. So on the basis that we need 11 a side how are we going to fill the gaps then in your brave new world; let me see we need two/three defenders a whole midfield and oh yes a whole new strike force? Look what happened to QPR and learn! |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 9, 2013 14:15:01 GMT
Cameron would be a goner for me unless he suddenly proved to be a good midfielder.
I don't rate him at fullback at all and he'd give me a heart attack at central defence.
I don't se anything that makes me think he'll cut the mustard at this level personally.
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 9, 2013 14:42:09 GMT
Huth, Shawcross, N'Zonzi, Adam, Wilko, Wilson, Cameron, CJ, Shea, Deano, Butland, Ness, SJW
We have 7 players out of contract so there are going to be big changes in the summer anyway
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Post by LGH87 on May 9, 2013 14:45:06 GMT
Cameron would be a goner for me unless he suddenly proved to be a good midfielder. I don't rate him at fullback at all and he'd give me a heart attack at central defence. I don't se anything that makes me think he'll cut the mustard at this level personally. What i will say about Cameron though is that he is a good utility player, he can do a job when needed in a variety of positions, and when you consider he's come into this season on the back of a full MLS campaign, and had to take a BIG step up in class....i don't think he's performed too badly. Factor in that he's been moved from pillar to post during the season, and not had a run of games in central midfield where he is supposedly strongest, i think we've got a fairly useful player on our hands. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 9, 2013 14:46:41 GMT
Huth, Shawcross,Adam.Bego, Nzonzi.The rest can be replaced with better players,Shirley?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 9, 2013 14:53:35 GMT
Cameron would be a goner for me unless he suddenly proved to be a good midfielder. I don't rate him at fullback at all and he'd give me a heart attack at central defence. I don't se anything that makes me think he'll cut the mustard at this level personally. What i will say about Cameron though is that he is a good utility player, he can do a job when needed in a variety of positions, and when you consider he's come into this season on the back of a full MLS campaign, and had to take a BIG step up in class....i don't think he's performed too badly. Factor in that he's been moved from pillar to post during the season, and not had a run of games in central midfield where he is supposedly strongest, i think we've got a fairly useful player on our hands. I'm certainly sympathetic to his situation but I think he's a good way off the level required. He may improve (because I know he won't be going) and that can only be a good thing. My overall impression is that he won't though. Hope I'm wrong. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 9, 2013 14:56:20 GMT
Bego, Huth, Shawcross, Wilson, N'Zonzi, Jones
These are the main players in the starting 11 for me.
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Post by bertiestan on May 9, 2013 14:58:20 GMT
Begovic, Wilson, Huth, Shawcross, Adam, Nzonzi, Jones, Cuvelier
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Post by LGH87 on May 9, 2013 15:01:30 GMT
What i will say about Cameron though is that he is a good utility player, he can do a job when needed in a variety of positions, and when you consider he's come into this season on the back of a full MLS campaign, and had to take a BIG step up in class....i don't think he's performed too badly. Factor in that he's been moved from pillar to post during the season, and not had a run of games in central midfield where he is supposedly strongest, i think we've got a fairly useful player on our hands. I'm certainly sympathetic to his situation but I think he's a good way off the level required. He may improve (because I know he won't be going) and that can only be a good thing. My overall impression is that he won't though. Hope I'm wrong. I'd rather him in the team as a utility man than the likes of Deano and Pugh though.....his versatility maybe his downfall, but there a number of players i would allow to leave before Cameron |
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Post by ohbottom on May 9, 2013 15:04:24 GMT
In order of preference:
Bego, Huth, Shawx, Nzonzi, Adam, Wilson, Jerome, Cameron.
I'd want to see a 1st choice RB, 2 wide mids, a new target man up front and cover for LB as additions to the squad.
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Post by metalhead on May 9, 2013 15:21:48 GMT
Bit of a silly question because we can't guarantee certain players will stay, so 'must stay' should really be, "who do you want to stay?"
Bego, Shawcross, Huth, Cameron, Wilson, Adam, Jerome
Maybe Deano, just for his workrate.
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Post by LGH87 on May 9, 2013 15:25:40 GMT
Bego
Butland
Wilko
Ryan
Huth
Wilson
Cameron
Kightly
Shea
Whelan
Adam
N'Zonzi
Cuvelier
Walters
Jerome
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Post by liathroid on May 9, 2013 15:38:38 GMT
with all these changes being proposed  , how much do people think we will be spending (question)and who will be spending it TP or this new invisible man people are talking about  |
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Post by jezzascfc on May 9, 2013 15:58:19 GMT
Begovic will go, as will Tommy and Carlo, so we need an experienced number two to understudy Butland. I will be amazed if Jones stays and we know Pennant is a gonner and Palacios is anyone's for a tin of salmon. Wilko is below the standard required and is injury prone, as is Ethers now unfortunately. Deano should not get a new deal and a replacement for Whelan is long overdue. Edu and Owen are out and I'd listen to offers for Kightly. I am undecided on Shots (if he does, only at right back) and Crouch (we'll get little for him and he may come good again with better, pacey players around him) and have not seen enough of Shea. We need pace and youth out wide, two new full backs, a new box to box midfielder to compete with Cameron to partner N'Zonzi and two new strikers (one first teamer and one young gun). So who does that leave:
Butland
Shawcross
Huth
Wilson
N'Zonzi
Adam
Cameron
Jerome
Walters
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Post by dadofsam on May 9, 2013 15:59:22 GMT
How many players did Pulis leave us with last time?
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Post by elystokie on May 9, 2013 19:39:37 GMT
How many players did Pulis leave us with last time? Was it 9? For some reason I've always had that figure in my head anyway. If it was a choice between him leaving us with none or him staying I'd take the none. |
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Post by countofmontecristo on May 9, 2013 19:49:07 GMT
Begovic will go, as will Tommy and Carlo, so we need an experienced number two to understudy Butland. I will be amazed if Jones stays and we know Pennant is a gonner and Palacios is anyone's for a tin of salmon. Wilko is below the standard required and is injury prone, as is Ethers now unfortunately. Deano should not get a new deal and a replacement for Whelan is long overdue. Edu and Owen are out and I'd listen to offers for Kightly. I am undecided on Shots (if he does, only at right back) and Crouch (we'll get little for him and he may come good again with better, pacey players around him) and have not seen enough of Shea. We need pace and youth out wide, two new full backs, a new box to box midfielder to compete with Cameron to partner N'Zonzi and two new strikers (one first teamer and one young gun). So who does that leave: Butland Shawcross Huth Wilson N'Zonzi Adam Cameron Jerome Walters Have you seen the price of salmon these days?! |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 3:03:28 GMT
The players I really want to stay are Huth, Shawcross, Cameron, and Adam. Take or leave players include SJW, Shotton, Ethers. Rest....Won't be too upset if they shown the door, especially our so called strike force. So on the basis that we need 11 a side how are we going to fill the gaps then in your brave new world; let me see we need two/three defenders a whole midfield and oh yes a whole new strike force? Look what happened to QPR and learn! Got to be better than the " Strike Force" we currently have..... |
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Post by Trouserdog on May 10, 2013 3:55:28 GMT
Assuming that Bego is off, we have to build the side around:
Butland
Shawcross
Huth
Wilson
N'Zonzi
There are other players who I hope will stay, but I don't think it would necessarily send us down if we lost them and bought replacements. Obviously Butland is an unproven quantity but clearly has massive potential and will probably be our only keeper on the books by the end of July.
I don't think we'd necessarily get an equal replacement for Shawcross, Huth or N'Zonzi even if Tone had £20 million to spend on each position.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 10, 2013 4:21:54 GMT
It all depends if Pulis stay doesn't it?
If he does, I would try to keep these players:
FOR THE FIRST TEAM: Begovic, Shawcross, Huth, Wilson, N'Zonzi, Adam, Crouch
FOR THE SQUAD: Sorenson, Butland, Cameron, one of Wilko or Shotton, one of Whelan or Whitehead, one of Kightly or Etherington, Walters, one of Jones or Jerome
FOR SALE: Nash, one of Wilko or Shotton, one of Whelan or Whitehead, Palacios, one of Kightly or Etherington, Pennant, one of Jones or Jerome, Owen
Probably a few I've forgotten.
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Post by swampySCFC on May 10, 2013 5:56:14 GMT
In terms of who might want to be off I reckon Crouchie will want to be off sarf, Jerome will want more game time elsewhere, Ethers a fresh start, KJ and possibly Adam. Of the rest there's a load that might want to stay but we will try to move on so let's hope we can get some early business done
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Post by nik80 on May 10, 2013 6:37:08 GMT
Bego, Wilson, Huth, Ryan, N'Zonzi, Adam and Jerome.
Players I'd be happy enough to retain cos they're versatile and have more worth to the squad than they do a sell-on value are
Shotton, Wilko, Deano, Whelan, Cameron, Crouch, Kightly and possibly Shea
Players I'd try to move include
Palacios, Walters, Etherington, Jones
Players I've missed off any list can leave too, I've not seen the likes of Flo, Ness and anyone else to truly say they've got value or not
Players on second list can go too however, if people offer a reasonable proportion of what we paid out.
None if this will happen however, the only list which i can see players who might interest other sides is the first one, even then only really Bego, not that I'm complaining about that.
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Post by ohbottom on May 10, 2013 6:46:35 GMT
with all these changes being proposed , how much do people think we will be spending (question)and who will be spending it TP or this new invisible man people are talking about Please note the title of the thread is "players who must stay". It does not necessarily follow that everyone not on that list must go. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 10, 2013 6:54:35 GMT
Bego, Shawcross, Huth, NZonzi, Adam, Wilson, Shotton, Jerome.
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Post by Stoke70 on May 10, 2013 7:08:55 GMT
Bego, Sorro, Shawcross, Huth, Wilson, N'Zonzi, Adam, Jerome.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 7:12:49 GMT
In terms of who might want to be off I reckon Crouchie will want to be off sarf, Jerome will want more game time elsewhere, Ethers a fresh start, KJ and possibly Adam. Of the rest there's a load that might want to stay but we will try to move on so let's hope we can get some early business done That's the key swampy...early business, never mind at the 11th hour after the season has started, we should move now, before pre season training and pre season tour, let the players get to know each other, work out good pairings, esp up front, and if Pulis is on his way I think he should do a fergie and announce it now, before last home game and get a good rousing send off and a big thank you....and let the new man bring in his own players that suit his style of play... |
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Post by Danstoke82 on May 10, 2013 7:27:39 GMT
Bego, Huth, Shawcross, Adam, N'Zonzi, Jerome, Jones for me.
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Post by potterglen on May 10, 2013 7:47:59 GMT
Bego, Shawcross, Huth, Wilson, Cameron, Adam, N'Zonzi, Jerome, Cuvelier, Butland. Jury's our on Shea and Ness, not seen enough of them to pass serious judgement. Wilko and Etherington have become too injury prone to retain imo, need to find young replacements for both - perhaps from the Academy!
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, how much do people think we will be spending (question)and who will be spending it TP or this new invisible man people are talking about 
