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Post by apb1 on May 13, 2013 7:57:57 GMT
So we could fall from 11th to 17th on Sunday if my admittedly perfunctory calculations are right. It's even possible we could pip West Ham for 10th.
Is it still about £700-800k per league place? £5m would buy a decent player even in these mad times...
I wonder how TP will approach the game?
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Post by potterpaul on May 13, 2013 8:04:35 GMT
It hasn't mattered in previous seasons. We have always slid a few places in the final few games of season. 40 points has been accomplished........job done.
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Post by s8to on May 13, 2013 8:18:11 GMT
It hasn't mattered in previous seasons. We have always slid a few places in the final few games of season. 40 points has been accomplished........job done. That is the sad reality of our ambitions... Aim to climb a mountain and you may onhly climb a hill, aim to climb a hill... |
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Post by MuddyWoody on May 13, 2013 8:18:36 GMT
It hasn't mattered in previous seasons. We have always slid a few places in the final few games of season. 40 points has been accomplished........job done. Sad but true, at least with Pulis still at the helm. |
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Post by RAF on May 13, 2013 8:21:48 GMT
It hasn't mattered in previous seasons. We have always slid a few places in the final few games of season. 40 points has been accomplished........job done. Well considering one of the Chairman's main aims is to try and get us self-sufficient I would say it does matter. £5 mill would stop TP moaning about funds for front of house, he could buy another Whitehead with that. H |
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Post by luke2u on May 13, 2013 8:24:25 GMT
A win is very important in my eyes.
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Post by Kjones9 on May 13, 2013 8:25:17 GMT
He won't be here to spend it, hence why he won't care.
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Post by rorymscfc on May 13, 2013 8:25:55 GMT
It's crazy that despite how poor we've been for a very large chunk of this season and that we're going to finish with our lowest points total since we returned to the top division, we're still on course for our highest finish in terms of league position.
It's been a funny old season all round.
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Post by apb1 on May 13, 2013 8:27:12 GMT
Looking at the relevant fixtures we could lose and still get 14th or 13th: Man CityvNorwich should be a Citeh win if only because the players want to impress the new guy NewcastlevArsenal Magpies to steal a point and overtake us. Hopefully Arsenal to miss out on Champions League SouthamptonvStoke Inevitable 1 goal defeat, Southampton pass us. No Adam just when he was playing well  SwanseavFulham Fulham might get a point but GD will be one worse than ours. They will get in Europe as they are top of the plucky little Fulham god bless em League Table TottenhamvSunderland Come on you Spurs. West HamvReading Can't see the Biscuitmen dunking the Hammers, or it being relevant as we will lose. WiganvAston Villa Come on you Wigan (they will already be down most likely but could be a draw, and our addiction to odd goal defeats means we will stay above Villa?) I suppose one motivational tactic might be to base TP's redundancy on how high we finish  |
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Post by potterpaul on May 13, 2013 8:27:55 GMT
It hasn't mattered in previous seasons. We have always slid a few places in the final few games of season. 40 points has been accomplished........job done. Well considering one of the Chairman's main aims is to try and get us self-sufficient I would say it does matter. £5 mill would stop TP moaning about funds for front of house, he could buy another Whitehead with that. H Both you and me know self sufficiency is unrealistic under TP and it probabably is a thorne in their long term friendship. |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 13, 2013 8:28:41 GMT
Even with a 2 or 3 goal defeat, with our goal difference, you can't really see us dropping lower than 14th at worst looking at the tough fixtures for the teams below us.
But it really is a shot to nothing. If ever a game was crying out to be attacked, it's this one.
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Post by RAF on May 13, 2013 8:30:35 GMT
Well considering one of the Chairman's main aims is to try and get us self-sufficient I would say it does matter. £5 mill would stop TP moaning about funds for front of house, he could buy another Whitehead with that. H Both you and me know self sufficiency is unrealistic under TP and it probabably is a thorne in their long term friendship. I do, all the more reason not to think it's ok to write off 5 mill as not mattering. H |
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Post by jeycov on May 13, 2013 8:32:05 GMT
Just thinking about this and looking at the final fixtures for each team around us.
Our goal difference is important - a big thanks to Bego for this as our performance in front of goal has been woeful.
I'm guessing at 13th and hoping for higher.
The crowd were magnificent yesterday (Have been for most of the season) and supporters deserve an all out effort for 3 points next Sunday!
At least we are safe however!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 13, 2013 8:33:14 GMT
Wonder how clueless will approach the match?
Ermmm,just look where Southampton have come from,will give you a clue.
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Post by Northy on May 13, 2013 8:38:38 GMT
Failure to see off Bolton and Wigan at home in recent seasons have seen us slide and lose £millions on the last day, that would have perhaps paved the way for somebody like Huddlestone to sign
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Post by apb1 on May 13, 2013 8:39:40 GMT
Wonder how clueless will approach the match? Ermmm,just look where Southampton have come from,will give you a clue. sorry I forgot the irony smiley And I called him TP, for the record... Here's another one. Is it a good job TP didn't let Begovic go up for last minute corner at Fulham? The goal they might have scored on the break would have tipped the GD their way...and cost us 800k  |
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Post by Gods on May 13, 2013 8:44:10 GMT
10th to 17th, we could finish as high as 10th.
Unlikely I grant you but so is 17th so if we are going to set out the range of possible finishing places we may as well be right including the freak possibilities at both ends of the spectrum.
Potterpaul, I don't understand why you say it "hasn't mattered" in previous seasons? Of course it's mattered, if you mean we haven't done the business on the last day of the season in previous seasons then that's true, but it sure as shit has mattered. £5m is another player.
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Post by potterpaul on May 13, 2013 8:44:58 GMT
Both you and me know self sufficiency is unrealistic under TP and it probabably is a thorne in their long term friendship. I do, all the more reason not to think it's ok to write off 5 mill as not mattering. H It matters to me RAF..........just doesn't seem to matter to Fortypointer Pulis. |
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Post by Gods on May 13, 2013 8:46:45 GMT
Wonder how clueless will approach the match? Ermmm,just look where Southampton have come from,will give you a clue. 'clueless', hoho, very good, I see what you did there, it's a subtle play on words with the managers surname. |
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Post by RAF on May 13, 2013 8:53:14 GMT
I do, all the more reason not to think it's ok to write off 5 mill as not mattering. H It matters to me RAF..........just doesn't seem to matter to Fortypointer Pulis. Furry Muff. Maybe next time Pulis starts whinging about funds for front of house may be he could be directed to his own performance and how he could attain more funds? H |
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Post by scfc75 on May 13, 2013 8:56:05 GMT
I wonder how TP will approach the game? He's surely been here long enough now for you to know EXACTLY how he will approach the game. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 9:00:41 GMT
How important is that 1 final position in the table to the owners etc though? If we won away at Southampton for example, West Ham lost and we finished top 10 it'd look good. However lose while others win and a finish in 17th could be constituted as just scraping survival. It's an interesting scenario.
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Post by apb1 on May 13, 2013 9:19:36 GMT
I wonder how TP will approach the game? He's surely been here long enough now for you to know EXACTLY how he will approach the game. I refer you to the answer I gave to the honourable gentleman above |
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Post by Kjones9 on May 13, 2013 9:21:26 GMT
Wonder how clueless will approach the match? Ermmm,just look where Southampton have come from,will give you a clue. 'clueless', hoho, very good, I see what you did there, it's a subtle play on words with the managers surname. Why is Ian holloway in your avatar? |
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Post by Fred Ferret on May 13, 2013 9:23:32 GMT
The loss of 5m on the last day would be ample justification for PC to get rid of TP - given the disastrous results this year.
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Post by OldStokie on May 13, 2013 9:48:54 GMT
He's surely been here long enough now for you to know EXACTLY how he will approach the game. I refer you to the answer I gave to the honourable gentleman above How spiffingly polite was that? A rarity on this board.  OS. |
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Post by snapper23 on May 13, 2013 11:13:35 GMT
Looking at the relevant fixtures we could lose and still get 14th or 13th: Man CityvNorwich should be a Citeh win if only because the players want to impress the new guy NewcastlevArsenal Magpies to steal a point and overtake us. Hopefully Arsenal to miss out on Champions League SouthamptonvStoke Inevitable 1 goal defeat, Southampton pass us. No Adam just when he was playing well SwanseavFulham Fulham might get a point but GD will be one worse than ours. They will get in Europe as they are top of the plucky little Fulham god bless em League Table TottenhamvSunderland Come on you Spurs. West HamvReading Can't see the Biscuitmen dunking the Hammers, or it being relevant as we will lose. WiganvAston Villa Come on you Wigan (they will already be down most likely but could be a draw, and our addiction to odd goal defeats means we will stay above Villa?) I suppose one motivational tactic might be to base TP's redundancy on how high we finish Gunners will win at the Toon; we will go down 3-1; Swansea will do Fulham easily as will Spurs with the Weirsiders but otherwise I agree. we will finish mid table on that basis |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 11:46:02 GMT
Even with a 2 or 3 goal defeat, with our goal difference, you can't really see us dropping lower than 14th at worst looking at the tough fixtures for the teams below us. But it really is a shot to nothing. If ever a game was crying out to be attacked, it's this one. May as well give Cuvelier a chance. Either him or Deano... |
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Post by thestatusquo on May 13, 2013 12:12:42 GMT
Let the "bus parking" commence.
"Nah Nige" Theyve been in the premier league much longer than us and they've also won the FA Cup. Where they keep getting these young players from though is a mystery to me. Someone mentioned The Academy which I thought was a disco in Hanley."
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Post by apb1 on May 14, 2013 8:00:19 GMT
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