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Post by riponstokie on May 20, 2017 22:07:23 GMT
People always go on about claiming Corbyn is a "terroist sympathiser" because they've seen him holding talks with people to try and create peaceful solutions. Why do we criticise that, yet we know FOR A FACT our current PM and her entire party have voted for the mass murder of innocent civilians time and time again, in fact, the entire Tory party is built on this so called "Great" Britain idea and patriotism' yet you don't see the kind of ridiculing Corbyn gets, and we disregard all these facts of Corbyn's lifelong fight for peace and nuclear disarmament based on media smears and pictures. Moreover, rather than looking at the facts; (we know of increased homelessness, we know about huge increased use of food banks and we know over a quarter of children in this country live in poverty)?people disregard the facts of what the Conservative government have push this country towards, but instead make decision based on pictures and media smears? Beggars belief. holding talks? he invited sinn fein into the house of commons just weeks after the Brighton bombing, he was arrested for joining pro ira demos, mi5 had a file on him Load of bollocks aren't they, these talks...Should just bomb them and attack them brainlessly. Its what the Tories would do. Its not like every war that has reached a peaceful solution, hasn't been reached by talks. In fact I find bombing the living daylights out of people, and refusing to try and negotiate or find political solutions, the silver bullet to most issues.
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Post by riponstokie on May 20, 2017 20:52:52 GMT
It should not matter who is leading a party if the polices are good and the other party are so hell bent on self enrichment and looking after just the rich at the detriment of other people as I keep on saying you cant trust the Tories they are not for the majority of people and any working class or even middle class person who believes there lies manipulation and nastiness must be idiots. They are the party of the rich and snobs for the rich. Don't be fooled by them! *their no it shouldnt, but when you have a terrorist sympathiser leading a party, then people remember the hideous scenes of mass murder carried out by people who that leader is seeing laughing and smiling with People always go on about claiming Corbyn is a "terroist sympathiser" because they've seen him holding talks with people to try and create peaceful solutions. Why do we criticise that, yet we know FOR A FACT our current PM and her entire party have voted for the mass murder of innocent civilians time and time again, in fact, the entire Tory party is built on this so called "Great" Britain idea and patriotism' yet you don't see the kind of ridiculing Corbyn gets, and we disregard all these facts of Corbyn's lifelong fight for peace and nuclear disarmament based on media smears and pictures. Moreover, rather than looking at the facts; (we know of increased homelessness, we know about huge increased use of food banks and we know over a quarter of children in this country live in poverty)?people disregard the facts of what the Conservative government have push this country towards, but instead make decision based on pictures and media smears? Beggars belief.
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Post by riponstokie on Feb 5, 2017 9:14:53 GMT
So there was no handshake between the manager's. In my opinion they are both responsible as it takes two people to shake hands and they can make it happen if there's willingness on either side. In the home game v WBA, where all sides of the BET 365 stood to acknowledge TP's 1000th game as a manager he was greeted at the dugout with a handshake from.....Mark Bowen and no movement or acknowledgement from his seat by Mark Hughes. No big deal made of it at the time on MOTD on that occasion. MH 'I was the guest/visiting club and there was no handshake'. The very same could be said when we were at home etc etc...........Time for them both to grow up.......
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Post by riponstokie on Jan 12, 2017 17:11:18 GMT
Haven't frequently posted on the Oatie for a while..The shite start of the season left me with no doubt but to call for Sparky's head, but Hughes' scraping out of results against Hull, Blunderland and Burnley showed he is at least capable of maintaining our status In the division. However, following the glimpses of the so called 'next level' we saw at times last season, and with the abundance of quality we have, settling for the shoddy state of the clubs it is in now is unacceptable. A truly truly shite 2016 cannot be forgotten by the fans. Nor can the tremendous football we played at the end of 2015. The regression of the club is for all to see. We can't beat any teams above us. We continually concede pathetic goals. And to top it all off, we are going to actively seek to give away our maestro, our talisman, our messiah Bojan, for fuck all, to a rival club. Whilst there has been constant grumblings from fans on here and other social median platforms, and whilst the atmosphere at the BritBet has really gone down the shitter, there does seem to be some perceived hope we will miraculous produce good football again, and we will all be fine and dandy. This ain't gonna happen. I love Crouchy, Jon, Whelan, Cameron. But the fact they are still such a prevalent role in the team is outrageous and testimony to Hughes' ineptitude. Again, the imminent sale of Bojan honestly leaves me speechless. But one thing is for sure, the fans need to step up, and give the players the almighty lift they need, and get the atmosphere cranked up again. I'd love to hear Bojan's name sang from all sides of the ground against Manure. Don't forget he played a huge role of Man. U's destruction last time they were in town, and lets make sure the management team and board know we haven't forgot, and know we aren't satisfied with the horrendous state of out club on and off the pitch. We cannot sit idly by and watch our club regress back to how it was in the last months of TP's reign, with defensive, quality lacking teams trying to scrape results. We have seen better than that, and we are now capable of far better than that. And we need to act, and at least try and get our dissatisfaction, and our desperation for some sort of change heard. We need to step up and move forward whilst the club are seemingly sliding down and moving backwards.
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Post by riponstokie on Dec 27, 2016 20:45:27 GMT
Well you got Crouch and Walters Shameful Hughes I think the shameful thing is, of all the millions and millions of pounds spent, we still rely on those 2 as much as we do. Walters is our best no.9, and as much as I love him, and as good as he's been lately, that is worrying. Thought the team was pretty spot on bar Bojan being left out, and first half an hour looked as though Hughes was about to pull off a tactical masterclass. However, individual errors, shit defending and incompetence of keeping the ball knackered us. Bar his management of Bojan, don't think Hughes did much wrong today, players were a disgrace at times. Seeing Glen Johnson licking the arse of the Liverpool players in the tunnel before the game wasn't too pleasing to see either; especially with how wank he was.
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 23, 2016 12:28:44 GMT
Support really was tremendous yesterday..no one does taking the piss better than us. Also, during the 5 mins when we were singing swing low non stop, there was a pause in play when one of their players was down. Pieters was on the near side right by the fans and started just staring in awe at the away fans looking as if he was about to start tearing up. Class support, and a real connection between all the players and fans which is what we are all about. Onwards and upwards.
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 15, 2016 16:05:49 GMT
Christ he looked bang on it today. Thought manager got it spot on today, and over the moon to see us look solid, keep a clean sheet, but also play some great football at times! Onwards and upwards.
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 2, 2016 15:50:54 GMT
Forgive me Hun, but I think you missed the first few lines of my post? That result today was huge, and the players and the management team deserve huge credit. But obviously by that I mean: ffs, we didn't lose, gonna have to wait even longer for Pulis to return.. You are seriously blinded by your ignorance and what appears to be pure stupidity. It's exactly the first few lines that confirms my point. I know exactly where you and your likes are coming from. The all knowing, all powerful pugs..so I'm sure you agree with the main body of the op then?
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 2, 2016 15:47:12 GMT
For me he gets it the wrong way round. It would be better to grind the results out and then relax and play a little when we have points on the board. There's a long way to go yet and Sunderland will be massive, but I think we are going in the right direction now. Yeah I agree, once we get the confidence in the club you start to see our most technically gifted players ripping it up.
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 2, 2016 15:46:23 GMT
Another fucktard gutted we got a result today. Forgive me Hun, but I think you missed the first few lines of my post? That result today was huge, and the players and the management team deserve huge credit. But obviously by that I mean: ffs, we didn't lose, gonna have to wait even longer for Pulis to return.. You are seriously blinded by your ignorance and what appears to be pure stupidity.
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 2, 2016 15:31:50 GMT
Before I make my point, want to say how well I thought we did today. Correct team selection, players worked hard for eachother and the manager and we as fans came away from the game proud of the team (haven't done that much last few months). However, when you take a step back, we are doing what we have done every season since Hughes has been here. He has tried playing flowing, attractive football and it hasn't worked. As he gets more and more pressure put on him, he resorts to going 2 in the cage, (normally Adam with Whelan but now it's Gcam.) we stop overplaying, go more direct and get ourselves out of the shit. On one hand, it's great the manager knows how to get results when we need them. However, it proves that Hughes is unable to play the way he wants all the time to get results. Rather than changing our style for varying opposition, Hughes waits until we are really in the shit and goes to plan B. This has happened every season, and eventually, Hughes won't have Pulis' grafters to get us out the shit. This isn't a Hughes Pulis debate, not remotely so. It simply is highlighting the unsustainable way Hughes manages and unless he finds a way of getting results with the players he wants playing the way he wants we will dig a hole too deep to get out.
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 1, 2016 15:52:52 GMT
In the car park after the WBA game, one jack butland (accompanied by a stunning blonde.) walked past my car. Rolled down the window and asked how long til hes back..in a cool, confident, boardering on arrogant tone he replied "give me a month". So don't know what Mr Perm is on about, seems Hughes' comments were pretty damn accurate.
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 22, 2016 13:06:54 GMT
Class manager, forever grateful for what he has done for the club honestly don't think any other manager on the planet could've dont what he did with the players at his disposal.. Amazing achievement reaching that mark and think we should give him a clap an the respect he undoubtably deserves. Follow this with a huge roar, supporting the boys on a terrifyingly important match that could have big long term effects on the club. tell you what...given the fact that we gave him his applause last time which he then completely threw back in our faces (proving he doesn't give a shit about SCFC regardless of what you think. we're just any other club to him nowadays), why don't we leave the applause for his great achievement (which i'm not denying it is) for HIS fans at HIS club where he's marking that achievement???? that would be my take on it regardless of how decent we were at the moment. given our current state, in my opinion any Stoke fan who does anything other than concentrate on and give full attention to OUR team 100% for the full amount of time when they run onto that pitch needs a fucking massive head wobble!!!! how many fucking times do we have to give him a "reception"? he's a manager who spent over 100mill on players and kept us up (which is precisely what he was paid a salary and a bonus for. don't kid yourself he did it out of the good of his heart or because he loves us more than any other club he's managed. we're no more special to him than any of the other cubs he was ok for then antagonised and pissed off to the point where he walked or got sacked)..well done Tone, cheers for that but he's moved on so why the fuck can't we???? fuck cheering any opposition manager. i care about Stoke and now is the time, more than any other in recent years where we concentrate on OUR team and OUR manager. he doesn't manage us anymore so his "Achievement" has absolutely fuck all to do with us whatsoever I can understand your view point, but personally, I don't think TP can ever be thanked enough. He loved being Stoke city manager, and gave his all for this club. Irrelevant of who he manages he should always get Stokw fans respect. Whether you keep your opinion to yourself or you feel the need to applaude him, is upto the individual. At the end of the day the overwhelming priority is getting 3 points from this game, but I don't see how having respect for someone that has played a huge role in our clubs history needs to retract away from supporting the team completely? Moreover, I think most if not all Stoke fans have moved on since TP left, given that it was a number of years ago. But again, I don't see why applauding him and showing respect is being stuck in the past or the inability to move on.
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 22, 2016 11:22:14 GMT
Class manager, forever grateful for what he has done for the club honestly don't think any other manager on the planet could've dont what he did with the players at his disposal.. Amazing achievement reaching that mark and think we should give him a clap an the respect he undoubtably deserves. Follow this with a huge roar, supporting the boys on a terrifyingly important match that could have big long term effects on the club.
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 22, 2016 6:07:46 GMT
Love it, the typical fools; 'we battered Hull', 'we've only played 5 games this season'.Theres plenty of Stoke fans who seem desperate to avoid using 2 brain cells whenever possible. The naive fans who ignore our shite performances for the majority of last season, specifically since January. The same fans will go on about how controlling and how many shots we had tonight..sorry, what was the score? We have fallen into a complete habit of losing games. Moreover, it's tragic how once the Pulis spine is ripped out, or struggles to perform, we are starting immediate relegation in the face this early in the season! It's tragic how Hughes has destroyed our spine, our spirit and our identity. Many fans I'm sure are delighted we are no longer the ugly, horrible, long ball, long thrown demons who are tough to beat at home. Hey, at least we play pretty football right? I have not connection with the club anymore, the connection between fans, players and the management has been ripped out of us and we now look desperately on at a clueless team, with a clueless manager who probably couldn't care less. I am traveling down from Yorkshire on Saturday for the biggest game for years. I hope and pray Pulis leaves Stoke empty handed. But I know exactly out of the two managers who I'd want in the home dugout for the rest of the season Oh hey up out he comes If anybody needs any jogging on just look at this blokes posts and the timing of them Its pathetic and you've been spewing this shite for three years now in the hope of something like this happening and you are travelling down from Yorkshire because it's Pulis ...no more no less You are wallowing in it ....not disappointed People love to claim how all I've done is slag off Hughes and call for his head. Over the last few months, I've constantly reiterated, how we've got the potential to be a seriously good team. Hughes hating? No. I've said in order to fulfil this potential, Hughes needs to work on glaringly obvious weaknesses. Out of order? No. Similarly, I've stated how the staff have had months and months to sort out these issues..have they sorted it? I don't post just because we lose (just happens we lose a lot so majority of my posts do follow losses.) I've been banging on about the same issues for months, while Hughes cannot, or will not change it. Is any of that Spouted shite? Or is it just uncomfortably true? He has to go, the whole place has turned toxic..only one direction we will go if he stays.
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 21, 2016 22:21:37 GMT
Yes, in hindsight I've been totally over dramatic..in fact I'm actually fine with the way our manager doesn't work on our flaws. And I'm fine with how we continually make the same mistakes over and over again. I'm fine with how fans ignore issue we've had for months and claim to relax as we are only a few games into the season..I mean, I'm sure you're fine with how we have not only changed style since TP was manager, but we've rejected the target of 40 points..I mean I'm fine with the way we've started this season, and our attitude shouldn't be so negative to target 40 point,, we win possession on most games, so 40 points is a pathetic target..we can actually outplay every team in the league you know..at least that's what the manager thinks.. Can I be honest fella, you bore me..... Be honest 110%..but what is it that bores you, genuinely?
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 21, 2016 22:06:48 GMT
Love it, the typical fools; 'we battered Hull', 'we've only played 5 games this season'.Theres plenty of Stoke fans who seem desperate to avoid using 2 brain cells whenever possible. The naive fans who ignore our shite performances for the majority of last season, specifically since January. The same fans will go on about how controlling and how many shots we had tonight..sorry, what was the score? We have fallen into a complete habit of losing games. Moreover, it's tragic how once the Pulis spine is ripped out, or struggles to perform, we are starting immediate relegation in the face this early in the season! It's tragic how Hughes has destroyed our spine, our spirit and our identity. Many fans I'm sure are delighted we are no longer the ugly, horrible, long ball, long thrown demons who are tough to beat at home. Hey, at least we play pretty football right? I have not connection with the club anymore, the connection between fans, players and the management has been ripped out of us and we now look desperately on at a clueless team, with a clueless manager who probably couldn't care less. I am traveling down from Yorkshire on Saturday for the biggest game for years. I hope and pray Pulis leaves Stoke empty handed. But I know exactly out of the two managers who I'd want in the home dugout for the rest of the season What's tragic is how much of a drama queen you are.... Yes, in hindsight I've been totally over dramatic..in fact I'm actually fine with the way our manager doesn't work on our flaws. And I'm fine with how we continually make the same mistakes over and over again. I'm fine with how fans ignore issue we've had for months and claim to relax as we are only a few games into the season..I mean, I'm sure you're fine with how we have not only changed style since TP was manager, but we've rejected the target of 40 points..I mean I'm fine with the way we've started this season, and our attitude shouldn't be so negative to target 40 point,, we win possession on most games, so 40 points is a pathetic target..we can actually outplay every team in the league you know..at least that's what the manager thinks..
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 21, 2016 21:40:15 GMT
Love it, the typical fools; 'we battered Hull', 'we've only played 5 games this season'.Theres plenty of Stoke fans who seem desperate to avoid using 2 brain cells whenever possible. The naive fans who ignore our shite performances for the majority of last season, specifically since January. The same fans will go on about how controlling and how many shots we had tonight..sorry, what was the score? We have fallen into a complete habit of losing games. Moreover, it's tragic how once the Pulis spine is ripped out, or struggles to perform, we are starting immediate relegation in the face this early in the season! It's tragic how Hughes has destroyed our spine, our spirit and our identity. Many fans I'm sure are delighted we are no longer the ugly, horrible, long ball, long thrown demons who are tough to beat at home. Hey, at least we play pretty football right? I have not connection with the club anymore, the connection between fans, players and the management has been ripped out of us and we now look desperately on at a clueless team, with a clueless manager who probably couldn't care less. I am traveling down from Yorkshire on Saturday for the biggest game for years. I hope and pray Pulis leaves Stoke empty handed. But I know exactly out of the two managers who I'd want in the home dugout for the rest of the season
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 19, 2016 18:04:11 GMT
Stopped reading the op after 'most hardest'...Hughes has lost the plot. We've been shite since Christmas, he has no idea how to change it, and giving it time will allow him to further corrode our club, push us towards certain relegation with a QPResque fightless wimper
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 18, 2016 15:26:04 GMT
How many of you laughed out loud at that 'attempt' from Walters? Not me mate. Summed him up - an absolute disgrace of a performance. Supposed to be a leader? A top professional? Fuck off. And he had the temerity to have a go at Johnson at the end. Fuck off you Tory twat and take Glenn fucking Whelan with you. You are dim aren't you Pugs. You refer to arguably are greatest manager of all time as 'Toxic', you consistently slag off players who've got us to where we are and tell them to 'fuck off'. I'll tell you this, the only person that is 'toxic' is Hughes. The deterioration of defence, the lack of effort from players, the lack of plan all together and the ridiculous amounts of injuries. The whole place stinks, and we need to get rid of the toxic bastard before he takes us down..wonder if there's any managers in the local areas with a good record of keeping teams up?
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 18, 2016 15:07:09 GMT
A team where you know every game, the players will give their all, play to the full of their ability, irrelevant if the result. I miss the crowd. The togetherness and connection between each Stoke fan, the players and the manager. I miss having a manager who loves being the Stoke city manager, who will give their all to get the best out of his team. They don't have to leave their mother's death bed to go and manage the team, but who would do that? I just want to see a team I can be proud of, and a manager I have faith is doing his damdest to fulfil the teams potential.
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 18, 2016 14:15:56 GMT
It's not 5 games, this is months of the same shite. Morons saying "give him time" "let him sort it out". He had the end of last season to sort it out. Did he fuck. Had the entire summer to sort it out. Did he fuck. He's had the start of this season to sort it out. Did he fuck. This man does not know how to turn this around, he cannot get us out of the shitheap he has led us into. Has to go. Only early, another manager could come in and turn it around with almost the whole season to do so..I'm afraid Hughes and the club is toxic
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 10, 2016 15:23:57 GMT
No fight, no plan and no clue how to change it..Wouldve been the same last year without Butland..
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 9, 2016 19:31:09 GMT
Grammar schools are decisive in a couple of ways. Firstly,Obviously there are grammar school kids, and comprehensive school kids. Immediately this suggest a sense of superiority which could inevitably have negative influences on kids that don't get into grammars, similarly, it can create an arrogant air of superiority in grammar schools. Moreover, in grammar schools, if you are a high flying academic then you will be supported and succeed. However, if you are anything less than the top 20/30% you can be isolated, feel unwelcome and the school may begin to question your status as a student there. Therefore, personally, I don't believe grammar schools are a good thing. I think pushing students and getting the best out of them is a positive that should be taken from grammar schools and pushed into all schools. However, the entire education system needs a ridiculous shake up with huge investment this government simply ain't gonna provide, so any thoughts on education will remain hypothetical and mere ideas I honestly hear what you say.
However there are more parents concerned with arguing over a school uniform that costs bugger all nowadays than parents that are interested in their child's education and future. £25 for a new uniform that meets required standards when child benefit is £20 a week for the oldest and £13 for the youngest is not a lot to make that child feel a part of the school.
The problem is your point of only pushing academic children's future. Here is where I part ways with May. We must put just as much effort and financial backing into ALL children's futures weather that be academic or art or sport based. An academic future should be seen as an option not as a prize for an elite group. In short we have to focus on the individual needs of EVERY child with equal importance and funding.
I still think you can not teach academic children in the same place as other groups.
Would you send a potential painter and decorator or a builder to Oxford?
Would you send a potential footballer or athlete to Reseheath agricultural College?
No?, then we clearly need to define our children and allow them to proceed down the right path for them, not keep trying to force them all into a blended future that in my opinion is not right for any of them. Feeling like you belong is a key ingredient to success, feeling left out is a reason to bob school and go fishing.
Completely agree with what you say there mate. I feel huge investment needs to be pumped into the education system so once you live primary school/get to 12/13/14 you can select from a variety of different options. For example, there may be schools focussing on trades (which we have a horrendous lack of nowadays). Also, as you say, there needs to be sport, art and business based schools. This would mean kids could study things they are passionate about, and are not labelled dim if they aren't academic in the conventional sense. Unfortunately, this government won't invest heavily into the education system, rather, they continue to chip away at school budgets, thus forever increasing the gap between the haves and have not.
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 8, 2016 22:21:16 GMT
Grammar schools are decisive in a couple of ways. Firstly,Obviously there are grammar school kids, and comprehensive school kids. Immediately this suggest a sense of superiority which could inevitably have negative influences on kids that don't get into grammars, similarly, it can create an arrogant air of superiority in grammar schools. Moreover, in grammar schools, if you are a high flying academic then you will be supported and succeed. However, if you are anything less than the top 20/30% you can be isolated, feel unwelcome and the school may begin to question your status as a student there. Therefore, personally, I don't believe grammar schools are a good thing. I think pushing students and getting the best out of them is a positive that should be taken from grammar schools and pushed into all schools. However, the entire education system needs a ridiculous shake up with huge investment this government simply ain't gonna provide, so any thoughts on education will remain hypothetical and mere ideas
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 8, 2016 22:11:10 GMT
Don't know if you just saw question time, but Owen Smith made an interesting point about the referendum and triggering article 50. He responded to criticism of him suggestion a 2nd referendum by saying that the British voters may have voted leave for the points bases immigration system, the £350 million to the NHS or perhaps limitations to immigration we don't have the powers to change. However, since the result, it has materialised that these key polices involved in the leave propaganda were in fact a load of shite. Therefore, when May states "Brexit means brexit" she, the public and the rest of parliament don't have a clue what brexit actually means. Therefore, Owen suggest (rightly or wrongly.) that perhaps a second referendum should be taken to decide specific ways we leave (if at all.)or what access we have to certain aspects of the EU. Soonce we know the exact implications and not just false promises and pathetic lies, we can then make a vote, knowing exactly what we are voting for, knowing exactly what 'brexit' means. Owen Smith who gives a flying fcuk what his opinion is on anything !!!!!!, he will soundly beaten in a two horse race with Red Jezza FFS in the near future, even the looney left are set to reject this no mark, come back when you have something credible duck. It's not who's saying it though is it? If you have a brain cell or two you can look at my above post (as I did with what Owen Smith said.) and be interested and consider certain points and explore the ideas.. Personally, I'd describe the fact the government ain't investing a penny over the minimum into the NHS credible. I'd also highlight the contradictions between Tories MPs as credible in highlighting the lack of knowledge of what Brexit actually is. My original post was credible in the sense it used facts to question the prime minister's statement, and to go on to suggest credible possibilities that would allow British people the opportunity to truly shape what Brexit means..so maybe come back when you have something credible?
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 8, 2016 21:40:14 GMT
From the get go I've hated the phrase from the get go..
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 8, 2016 21:38:09 GMT
Shouldn't it be the Leave campaigners who should've had a plan for Brexit? After all, that's what they spent countless hours campaigning for. Shouldn't we be pissed of at people like David Davis, who convinced people to leave the EU but had not given a second thought as to how to actually leave? Surely that was down to the man who decided in his wisdom to have a referendum on our EU wishes, he was the PM at the time you may remember him David Cameron the one who quit the cowardly one, why would it be down to the leave campaigners ?, they have little or no say since Brexit as the Tory's elected a remain campaigner. So we now have a pro EU PM who was part of the remain campaign, not sure where your logic is coming from on this we voted to leave they should have had a strategy in place the arrogant spineless arse wipes. Don't know if you just saw question time, but Owen Smith made an interesting point about the referendum and triggering article 50. He responded to criticism of him suggestion a 2nd referendum by saying that the British voters may have voted leave for the points bases immigration system, the £350 million to the NHS or perhaps limitations to immigration we don't have the powers to change. However, since the result, it has materialised that these key polices involved in the leave propaganda were in fact a load of shite. Therefore, when May states "Brexit means brexit" she, the public and the rest of parliament don't have a clue what brexit actually means. Therefore, Owen suggest (rightly or wrongly.) that perhaps a second referendum should be taken to decide specific ways we leave (if at all.)or what access we have to certain aspects of the EU. Soonce we know the exact implications and not just false promises and pathetic lies, we can then make a vote, knowing exactly what we are voting for, knowing exactly what 'brexit' means.
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 2, 2016 13:36:24 GMT
Very good opening post. Think we were all waiting to make judgements until the window shuts, and whilst the start of the season has been pretty poor, the season does truly begin now. Sparky has brought in some good players and he now has all the ingredients to take the squad to the top 7 imo. Just need some luck with injuries and to do some bloody defensive work! Is a bit of a buzz around the place after winning deadline day. Hopefully this momentum is turned into results and to finally see the potential of this team fulfilled!
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Post by riponstokie on Sept 2, 2016 12:43:06 GMT
As mentioned many times, Pulis (like every manager.) made both good and bad signings. Whilst there were a few terrible signings over the years, he did make some phenomenal signings that brought this club from nothing to an established premier league team (many still in the team now). The thing with TP is he has to get the right characters and the right players to suit the way in which he played, and if he did sign someone that didn't fit that bill, they'd stick out like a saw thumb (kitson for example). Admittedly, TP's transfer deals towards the back end of his tenure lead to him being backed less and less until being no longer backed by the men above in his final year which led to both the club and him wanted to go seperate ways. Love him or loath him, he will never attract names like Sparky does, but imo he is very capable of getting the best out of players collectively, which is something Mr. Hughes is yet to nail
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