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Post by riponstokie on Oct 2, 2016 15:31:50 GMT
Before I make my point, want to say how well I thought we did today. Correct team selection, players worked hard for eachother and the manager and we as fans came away from the game proud of the team (haven't done that much last few months). However, when you take a step back, we are doing what we have done every season since Hughes has been here. He has tried playing flowing, attractive football and it hasn't worked. As he gets more and more pressure put on him, he resorts to going 2 in the cage, (normally Adam with Whelan but now it's Gcam.) we stop overplaying, go more direct and get ourselves out of the shit. On one hand, it's great the manager knows how to get results when we need them. However, it proves that Hughes is unable to play the way he wants all the time to get results. Rather than changing our style for varying opposition, Hughes waits until we are really in the shit and goes to plan B. This has happened every season, and eventually, Hughes won't have Pulis' grafters to get us out the shit. This isn't a Hughes Pulis debate, not remotely so. It simply is highlighting the unsustainable way Hughes manages and unless he finds a way of getting results with the players he wants playing the way he wants we will dig a hole too deep to get out.
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Post by stokiesteve on Oct 2, 2016 15:34:09 GMT
For me he gets it the wrong way round.
It would be better to grind the results out and then relax and play a little when we have points on the board.
There's a long way to go yet and Sunderland will be massive, but I think we are going in the right direction now.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 2, 2016 15:35:45 GMT
Another fucktard gutted we got a result today.
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 2, 2016 15:46:23 GMT
Another fucktard gutted we got a result today. Forgive me Hun, but I think you missed the first few lines of my post? That result today was huge, and the players and the management team deserve huge credit. But obviously by that I mean: ffs, we didn't lose, gonna have to wait even longer for Pulis to return.. You are seriously blinded by your ignorance and what appears to be pure stupidity.
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 2, 2016 15:47:12 GMT
For me he gets it the wrong way round. It would be better to grind the results out and then relax and play a little when we have points on the board. There's a long way to go yet and Sunderland will be massive, but I think we are going in the right direction now. Yeah I agree, once we get the confidence in the club you start to see our most technically gifted players ripping it up.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 2, 2016 15:49:04 GMT
Another fucktard gutted we got a result today. Forgive me Hun, but I think you missed the first few lines of my post? That result today was huge, and the players and the management team deserve huge credit. But obviously by that I mean: ffs, we didn't lose, gonna have to wait even longer for Pulis to return.. You are seriously blinded by your ignorance and what appears to be pure stupidity. It's exactly the first few lines that confirms my point. I know exactly where you and your likes are coming from.
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 2, 2016 15:50:54 GMT
Forgive me Hun, but I think you missed the first few lines of my post? That result today was huge, and the players and the management team deserve huge credit. But obviously by that I mean: ffs, we didn't lose, gonna have to wait even longer for Pulis to return.. You are seriously blinded by your ignorance and what appears to be pure stupidity. It's exactly the first few lines that confirms my point. I know exactly where you and your likes are coming from. The all knowing, all powerful pugs..so I'm sure you agree with the main body of the op then?
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Post by werrington on Oct 2, 2016 15:57:15 GMT
So you don't want it to be a Hughes/Pulis debate but you mention HIM twice in the OP
What you want of course is for this thread to be used to batter Hughes after a fantastic result today and improved performances
You never started anything like this over the years prior to Hughes arriving
A quick look at your posting history tells me the exact reason for this thread
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 2, 2016 16:01:44 GMT
It's exactly the first few lines that confirms my point. I know exactly where you and your likes are coming from. The all knowing, all powerful pugs..so I'm sure you agree with the main body of the op then? I didn't read the rest - total arse gravy no doubt. Everyone knows your m.o.
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Post by milky on Oct 2, 2016 16:15:31 GMT
Before I make my point, want to say how well I thought we did today. Correct team selection, players worked hard for eachother and the manager and we as fans came away from the game proud of the team (haven't done that much last few months). However, when you take a step back, we are doing what we have done every season since Hughes has been here. He has tried playing flowing, attractive football and it hasn't worked. As he gets more and more pressure put on him, he resorts to going 2 in the cage, (normally Adam with Whelan but now it's Gcam.) we stop overplaying, go more direct and get ourselves out of the shit. On one hand, it's great the manager knows how to get results when we need them. However, it proves that Hughes is unable to play the way he wants all the time to get results. Rather than changing our style for varying opposition, Hughes waits until we are really in the shit and goes to plan B. This has happened every season, and eventually, Hughes won't have Pulis' grafters to get us out the shit. This isn't a Hughes Pulis debate, not remotely so. It simply is highlighting the unsustainable way Hughes manages and unless he finds a way of getting results with the players he wants playing the way he wants we will dig a hole too deep to get out. Yeah we get it ... We only got a result today because we employed "his"tactics.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 2, 2016 16:22:39 GMT
Employing Pulis tactics in a game like today, with confidence rock bottom against a top side, makes perfect sense. On current form we were hardly going to go toe to toe with them.
It's when the previous management employed similar tactics against teams like Fulham we had a problem.
Hughes got it spot on today.
On the flipside, thank God we had Grant and not Fucktaard in goal today.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2016 16:26:27 GMT
Employing Pulis tactics in a game like today, with confidence rock bottom against a top side, makes perfect sense. On current form we were hardly going to go toe to toe with them. It's when the previous management employed similar tactics against teams like Fulham we had a problem. Hughes got it spot on today. On the flipside, thank God we had Grant and bot Fucktaard in goal today. When he did it at one nil down at home to West Ham was the lowest point for me.
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