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Post by werrington on Dec 27, 2016 20:02:28 GMT
Well you got Crouch and Walters
Shameful Hughes
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 20:03:25 GMT
They were our best players mate, along with Allen and Pieters.
What are we saying here?
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Dec 27, 2016 20:04:30 GMT
They were great for 20 minutes, what a pity that the match lasted 90 minutes. Gouranga.  |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 27, 2016 20:06:48 GMT
They were our best players mate, along with Allen and Pieters. What are we saying here? They totally disappeared second half Really after several years you still thin that combi is the way forward? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 20:08:15 GMT
They were our best players mate, along with Allen and Pieters. What are we saying here? Really after several years you still thin that combi is the way forward? Did I say that? Read what I'm really saying and what I'm really asking. |
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Post by redwhite on Dec 27, 2016 20:08:20 GMT
It's a strike partnership that has failed whenever it's been tried. Walters did well at least to get his goal but Crouch to me looks like the sort of player you bring on in a charity match. I can't believe a team with our Premier League credentials are still relying on him for 90 minutes.
If you are going to play Crouch for whatever reason, you have to play someone alongside him who has a bit of pace, creativity and ability to make clever runs. Walters has none of those attributes. Bojan and Diouf on the other hand...
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 27, 2016 20:08:57 GMT
Well you got Crouch and Walters Shameful Hughes Crouch was stokes best player that's shameful |
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Post by jarvinski on Dec 27, 2016 20:10:35 GMT
Crouch and walters they weren't good enough 2 years ago, look at the pace Liverpool pass at, we can't even pass to the goalkeeper, the problem now is that now Sams gone to Palace there are no managers about, possibly Laudrup, Mancini
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 27, 2016 20:11:11 GMT
Really after several years you still thin that combi is the way forward? Did I say that? Read what I'm really saying and what I'm really asking. No idea - knackered after long trip to see that and even longer trip home |
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 27, 2016 20:12:25 GMT
Well you got Crouch and Walters Shameful Hughes Crouch was stokes best player that's shameful HAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 20:12:33 GMT
They were our best players mate, along with Allen and Pieters. What are we saying here? I'm still trying to work out what they did after our goal. That includes Allen who could have come off second half and I wanted have noticed. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 20:14:19 GMT
Did I say that? Read what I'm really saying and what I'm really asking. No idea - knackered after long trip to see that and even longer trip home What I'm saying is it speaks volumes about the rest of the side if they're shining brighter than the rest, or as bright as the rest. I agree with the consensus that the two, either alone or as a partnership, shouldn't be anywhere near the side now. They are and they aren't looking that much out of place, which massively questions our transfer dealings over the last 3 to 4 years. It's putting a massive question mark over the manager also. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 20:14:26 GMT
Well you got Crouch and Walters Shameful Hughes Crouch was stokes best player that's shameful Yet offered no goal threat, which is surely what you want from a striker? If the best player is one who hasn't scored in 18 months, what hope is there? |
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Post by Miles Offside on Dec 27, 2016 20:15:58 GMT
Well you got Crouch and Walters Shameful Hughes He played Crouch and Walters because he trusts them more than the striker he paid £6M for and the £120K pw striker he pays to warm the bench. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 27, 2016 20:18:06 GMT
Crouch was stokes best player that's shameful Yet offered no goal threat, which is surely what you want from a striker? If the best player is one who hasn't scored in 18 months, what hope is there? That still doesn't alter the fact he was Heskey wasn't prolific but most stokers wanted to play with him |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 27, 2016 20:19:26 GMT
I see your overall point but they did their job today , had we kept them out he could have brought fresh legs on after an hour ( not that MH would know how to make a substitution but he could have )
As at Arsenal a positive start is ruined by an inability to defend properly and keep the ball in midfield .
Should Hughes have signed better forwards than Crouch and Walters by his fourth season? Of course he should but he has gone for flair but who knows when type of players , Unlucky with Bojan but the rest just ain't been good enough and Bony was sheer panic and clearly is not that interested .
I'm not sure he can sort it in January either as I don't see Berahino hitting the ground running having played no football
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Post by wuzza on Dec 27, 2016 20:21:02 GMT
How surprising - defensive issues like that but it's Walters and Crouch that deserve the stick.
Utter nonsense.
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Post by pavel on Dec 27, 2016 20:21:10 GMT
They were our best players mate, along with Allen and Pieters. What are we saying here? They totally disappeared second half Really after several years you still thin that combi is the way forward? And yet they weren't replaced, good for 20 minutes but once Klopp sussed our approach they were non existent for almost the rest of the match, we needed to respond tactically and personnel wise but just continued with the same failing game plan. |
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Post by stantheman on Dec 27, 2016 20:23:15 GMT
They both did as well as they could. If they get picked and give 100% how the fuck anyone can knock them is beyond me.
One decent cross in 90 minutes.
If Hughes cant find replacements for them, he deserves the flack, not them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 20:25:29 GMT
Suffolk, you deserve a medal mate. It is so predictable at this moment in time. Players who can't think fast enough making mistakes. Liverpool weren't that good, but we gave them three of their goals. Criminal at this level. Well done though to you. I wouldn't do it. Like I say, it's so predictable!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 27, 2016 20:27:12 GMT
Walters was good for the one second it took him to score, after that, he may has well put his slippers on and sat down in an armchair.
Crouch, I'm sorry to say is no longer a Premiership striker.
Is it any wonder we struggle to score enough goals.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 20:27:19 GMT
As for werrington. There is not a decent strike combination at the club. It needed addressing (as I've harped on about many times before)!
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Post by sufolkstokie on Dec 27, 2016 20:29:19 GMT
They totally disappeared second half Really after several years you still thin that combi is the way forward? And yet they weren't replaced, good for 20 minutes but once Klopp sussed our approach they were non existent for almost the rest of the match, we needed to respond tactically and personnel wise but just continued with the same failing game plan. Same as always with Hughes - no idea how to change game |
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Dec 27, 2016 20:32:14 GMT
Well you got Crouch and Walters Shameful Hughes Crouch was stokes best player that's shameful If that's sarcasm, by all means whoosh me.. If not, you're fucking clown shoes. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 27, 2016 20:39:01 GMT
Suffolk, you deserve a medal mate. It is so predictable at this moment in time. Players who can't think fast enough making mistakes. Liverpool weren't that good, but we gave them three of their goals. Criminal at this level. Well done though to you. I wouldn't do it. Like I say, it's so predictable! They were all bad goals Firmino had time to brew up before he shot , we are slow slow to close a ball down players should have been in his face sums up how lazy we can be as a team |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Dec 27, 2016 20:42:36 GMT
I was one of the fans asking for them and thought they did ok. I thought we could have got more balls into them from wide, that's when we looked dangerous. Diouf struggled offensively today which meant it was hard for Jon and Crouch. I'd also contest that the front two offered more in one game than Bony has done in all but one of his 10+ games.
My issue is still around our defense, we looked far too open on top of the individual errors.
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Post by silentbob on Dec 27, 2016 20:43:01 GMT
Crouch and Walters did OK but it was never, ever going to be enough
I'd still put them towards the bottom of the blame list today
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 27, 2016 20:44:08 GMT
Crouch was stokes best player that's shameful If that's sarcasm, by all means whoosh me.. If not, you're fucking clown shoes. If he was not who was |
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Post by riponstokie on Dec 27, 2016 20:45:27 GMT
Well you got Crouch and Walters Shameful Hughes I think the shameful thing is, of all the millions and millions of pounds spent, we still rely on those 2 as much as we do. Walters is our best no.9, and as much as I love him, and as good as he's been lately, that is worrying. Thought the team was pretty spot on bar Bojan being left out, and first half an hour looked as though Hughes was about to pull off a tactical masterclass. However, individual errors, shit defending and incompetence of keeping the ball knackered us. Bar his management of Bojan, don't think Hughes did much wrong today, players were a disgrace at times. Seeing Glen Johnson licking the arse of the Liverpool players in the tunnel before the game wasn't too pleasing to see either; especially with how wank he was. |
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Post by owdestokie on Dec 27, 2016 22:51:35 GMT
Walters was good for the one second it took him to score, after that, he may has well put his slippers on and sat down in an armchair. Crouch, I'm sorry to say is no longer a Premiership striker. Is it any wonder we struggle to score enough goals. Walters was covering and supporting Johnson most of the second half |
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