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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 3, 2015 20:00:54 GMT
When the rest of the side catch up with Arnie's level we'll totally murder someone... Indeed,once we've had Arnie,Shaq,Bojan and Diouf playing 5/6 games together,outside the top 4 temas,it's as good as you're going to get.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 3, 2015 19:41:00 GMT
Feel great after 2 wins but still hold ny window views My window views are that someone should fucking push you out of one. Haha,brilliant.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 3, 2015 19:38:54 GMT
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 1, 2015 10:09:08 GMT
No doubt I'll be called an idiot for this, but in my humble opinion Wilson is at least as good if not better at both CH & LB defensively. I'd agree Wilson is better at left back,not much between them at centre half.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 29, 2015 18:41:18 GMT
Very much the exception though wasn't he? I'd love to know what griffs views on Ric and Ric's views on tone are. I should think Ric's views on Tone would be "thanks for the opportunity to play in the Prem and earn premiership wages" I can't recall that other premiership managers were queuing round the block to sign him up after his history of injuries. Hadn't Fuller already played in the Prem before we signed him?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 28, 2015 10:21:49 GMT
I don't agree with that. Conservatively I'd say winning at both Villa and Swansea is like 20/1, which is 5 times out of 100 and is a long way from being close to 0. Sounds about right. If I was a betting man (which I am not because it's illegal here) I'd say 3/1 chance of beating Villa, 6/1 chance of beating Swansea = 18/1 winning both (about 5%). Chance of winning against Watford = 5/2. So chance of winning all 3 = 45/1, which is about 2%! A 3/1 and 6/1 double=27/1. Stoke are around 2/1 to beat Villa. Win that and they'll be around 3/1 to beat Swansea. That's an 11/1 chance. You're also way out on the 5/2 price against Watford!
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 26, 2015 19:12:08 GMT
MOM again,well played Glenn!
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 23, 2015 13:18:30 GMT
Should be... Butland Johnson Wollscheid Wilson Pieters Whelan Cameron Shaqiri Bojan Arnautovic Diouf Yep,that's what I'd go with.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 21, 2015 20:08:21 GMT
The bookies don't make the odds. Odds are based on betting trends so at the moment we are fourth favourite to be relegated based on betting not on bookies opinion. There are different odds from various bookies based on betting within their group. The bookies do make the odds.They set the prices.Prices can then change due to weight of money but the original market is formed by the bookies.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 19, 2015 20:54:33 GMT
Notoriously slow starters under Hughes,whether we like it or not,that's how he does it. I actually think we're playing better than we did at the start of last season and that turned out ok. Which team that we've played has shown more grit/steel then? If you read Mike Pejic's column in the Sentinel tonight you will understand what I mean. I have been saying this for several weeks. No Shawcross No communication at the back No defensive, rock hard midfielder Means ... I agree re Shawcross.Maybe the spell last season when we coped without him has influenced Hughes' decision not to sign someone like Lescott.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 19, 2015 20:40:25 GMT
He's 34 he will never recover his pace After such an injury at his age He should have been let go His pace was fine.It was his touch and crossing that let him down.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 19, 2015 20:38:25 GMT
Crucial? Really? Lose and we're down? No...don't be daft Crucial in the sense that if we lose then we are in a really difficult situation. Confidence ... not getting first win...bottom three after seven games ... If that does not concern you as a Stoke fan then you are in ccl Quicksand We have no leaders ... if today doesn't confirm that I don't know what will. Talent, excitement, entertainment, future, Yes Grit, steel, Now.. No Notoriously slow starters under Hughes,whether we like it or not,that's how he does it. I actually think we're playing better than we did at the start of last season and that turned out ok. Which team that we've played has shown more grit/steel then?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 19, 2015 20:32:43 GMT
The guy's been injured for god knows how long,give him a chance.(yes,he was poor today). Where's the line, though? When is it beyond recovery and just poor? Bit longer than 20 mins?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 19, 2015 20:21:40 GMT
Didn't they beat us at home last season.We've got no right to be beating anybody. That's them. The Leicester we beat last season away. Who's to say we won't repeat that win.I didn't see anything today that shows we haven't got a good chance.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 19, 2015 20:05:58 GMT
Has the squad got the bollucks. What have you just seen. That first half is the best we've played for ages and we were pegged back to 2-2 by the side sitting 3rd. We've been battling hard in almost every game this season, yet you resort to generic shite to make a panty wetting point. Pull your head out of your fucking arse and think before you create a thread. Jesus fuck. By a side sitting third!! Let's be realistic here. Leicester won't finish anywhere near the top 8. That's a fact. We had ambitions to be breaking into that ourselves. We should be beating teams like Leicester and again we got out battled and let's face it, it's as if we've lost. Think before you try be a smart arse. We are in a relegation battle and if you don't believe that then look at the league table! Even a win v Bournemouth may not be enough lift us out the bottom 3. We need to grow some bollocks and fucking fast Didn't they beat us at home last season.We've got no right to be beating anybody.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 19, 2015 20:02:33 GMT
The guy's been injured for god knows how long,give him a chance.(yes,he was poor today).
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 19, 2015 19:56:27 GMT
There was a 2-2 home draw last year against a high flying team where we lost our 2-0 lead that, imho, kickstarted our season. We finally showed that we had a good team that could take it to the opposition and I honestly think that the match today could be a similar scenario. Whilst we weren't as dominant today as we were against West Ham, there's plenty of cause for optimism. Get out first win under our belt next week and things will start to feel a lot better That's why next week game is crucial. Anybody who plays down it's significance is in cloud cuckoo land. Crucial? Really? Lose and we're down?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 13, 2015 13:47:23 GMT
Most agree with? Stop making things up. You don't agree with his comment then? That it's very worrying? Of course not,we've played 5 games. I'm sure we'll have another 5 game spell where we only pick up 2 points.If that happens to be the next 5 games,then....
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 13, 2015 13:09:55 GMT
Haha.Telling people 'don't read it if you don't fkn like it' is reasoned debate is it! Still going on about something that Le Tissier said and most agree with? Most agree with? Stop making things up.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 13, 2015 11:40:10 GMT
I think there is an equal lack of respect for many supporters who are worried about the situation because they love the club and are Stoke supporters who have been there through thick and thin. They are not Pulis lovers but they respect what he did for our club and were happy to see the move to a new manager who has done a tremendous job in the last two seasons. But they are also concerned that the team has then been under invested in and that as such the manager is having to work in a set of confines that the previous manager did not seem subject to. The fact that is now apparent in terms of performances and results is at the root of that concern and whilst other clubs have invested heavily knowing that the riches of next season are just around the corner we have, as an example. sold our player of the season and replaced him with a young lad on loan from Chelsea who has never been exposed to the rigors of Premier League football. There is a place for genuine concern, discussion and debate without being accused of 'knicker wetting' and disloyalty without anyone having to be proved right or wrong or resulting to child like insults if they dare express an opinion that differs from their own Top post mate but with the Oatcake bouncers out in force this morning it'll brushed aside as the same old panty wetting Haha.Telling people 'don't read it if you don't fkn like it' is reasoned debate is it!
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 12, 2015 21:52:09 GMT
Are we having a weekly 'what the fuck Matt Le Tissier thinks' thread,or just when we lose? WTF are you talking about?I'm posting what the bloke said in his after match comments,if you don't like don't fuckin read it. Chill out man.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 12, 2015 21:41:35 GMT
What's the point of it,Mr negative? Mr negative (rofl)Keep burying your head in the sand then mate Are we having a weekly 'what the fuck Matt Le Tissier thinks' thread,or just when we lose?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 12, 2015 21:34:53 GMT
Jack asked a question and then it was changed to jack was asked a question, the original post read as if jack was asking himself the question The original post has not been changed What's the point of it,Mr negative?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 12, 2015 21:26:03 GMT
No Shawcross or N'Zonzi, 2 absolute colossus. Correctamundo. Not having Ryan is unlucky, not having a suitable N'Zonzi replacement is bordering on negligence. You think replacing N'Zonzi was possible/realistic?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 12, 2015 21:07:03 GMT
He thinks he is and Hughes thinks he is, I rate Muniesa, but not as a Centre Half, incidently you lambasted Cameron for losing his man over his shoulder, did you see who lost Walcott in exactly the same way . ? No, I was watching our U-21's be utterly fucking dreadful too! But if it had been Cameron,you'd have been all over it.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 12, 2015 21:03:04 GMT
It's fucking idiotic thinking Huth playing today would have changed the result. Is that what you were thinking , do not be so hard on yourself I suspect a few would have had that thought maybe even MH, fact is he seems very reluctant to play our German replacement which is the biggest mystery and frankly mind boggling when we are playing utility players in his natural position very odd, have you any explanations you can think of ? Huth was his 5th choice centre back.Wollscheid is his new 5th choice centre back.Hardly a mystery!
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 12, 2015 20:45:49 GMT
Stat from last season were kidding themselves. We were wank at the back last season and we're fucking even more wank at the back now. The Wollscheid decision now looking like the fucking idiocy most sane people said at the time. A few nice things on the attack second half but another appalling day at the office that might have required brackets on the old videprinter! We might hammer someone this season but we could have no arguments with 25 goals in the against column after 5 games this season in reality. Worrying. It's fucking idiotic thinking Huth playing today would have changed the result.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 10, 2015 13:43:17 GMT
Agree with your general point but Diouf at Spurs was from open play wasn't it, although I was pissed! Sorry I meant a shot as distinct from a header, I think this season our 3 goals have come from 2 Diouf headers and Arnie's penalty. Our last goal from open play with a kick was N'Zonzi back in May against Liverpool. I suppose its not a big deal and I'll soon have a few folks piling in to me for even noticing it but it does suggest that somehow all our intricate passing isn't quite delivering an end result. Are you for real?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 8, 2015 9:52:47 GMT
England have already qualified and although it would be nice to keep the unbeaten run going,don't see what the problem is in wanting a Stoke player to do well.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 2, 2015 13:43:58 GMT
Pieters is an excellent defender though. Muniesa is an excellent defender also. Glen Johnson, in my opinion is unfairly maligned and is a better defender 1 v 1 than he is given credit for. I'm yet to see anyone get the better of him in our 4 league games to date. Granted he pushed forward so we may get caught out as a result when we unexpectedly give the ball away, but that is the perils of being more adventurous in the way you play. Shawcross is a huge loss and would be regardless of who we signed to cover his loss. Aerially, I can't recall Wooly being dominated by anyone. In fact, when he came on v Liverpool, I think he had a 100% success rate in aerial duals with Benteke, who as we all know, is a real handful in the air. At the end of the day, we have enough cover in defence to cater for an injury to anyone in that back 4. We missed Ryan for 8 or so games last season and actually did very well. We are no weaker at defending set pieces than we've ever been. Even under Pulis we were vulnerable to set pieces. Granted we aren't as threatening from them as we once were but then we don't spend all week practicing them nor do we build or side around playing for them. I honestly don't get the hysteria that has been prevalent on this forum over the last few days.An honest answer to your honest question (no agenda here) is that it boils down to a lack of decent outcomes so far, it just makes people very nervous. We failed to win any close season (yes I know it doesn't count!) games at all barring Wrexham and Singapore, we took that misfiring in to the Premier League program where we are also without a win against decent opposition and it all culminated in the League Cup fiasco where we were not able to tuck away 88th place Luton before all discipline went out the window against WBA. I think we are 9 on the bounce without a win if you tot up that lot, it ain't been much fun that's for certain we can all agree on that. It's not just the defence, we haven't scored a home goal or any goal at all with a shot (2 Diouf headers and a soft penalty) in open play this season in the Prem have we? I have to pinch myself as to how we have gone from the finish to last season to this, we have talent of that I am certain, but its not firing at all yet. Its nothing a couple of wins won't fix in the fickle world of football I know that! We've only lost 1 of our last 4 games,and that was with 9 men,with the other 3 games all being away from home.Hardly time for wrist slashing is it.
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