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Post by blackpoolred on Sept 1, 2015 19:25:30 GMT
Thought I would wait to see what he did in the window before passing judgement. I would not have minded had we even been linked to a central defender, but not even a hint that we were even interested in one. Given the poor defensive performances pre-season, the substandard start to the season and the further loss of our captain, I find it hard to belief that he seems to think we are alright in the defensive area.
Cameron is obviously the man he is going to keep with until the return of our captain, but what a risk that is going to be, both of our away games could have seen us conceed considerably more than we did, I think Norwich created 20+ attempts. Why are we starting the season with a square peg in a round hole. For me an extremely weak back four(defending wise) that wont be protected by an unpredictable midfield. I have seen nothing in the opening games to make me feel that the back four will work - quite the opposite.
And what about CM?
Maybe it is just me that cant see the potential that Sparky does within his ranks, but I am not sure even he knows how he is going to play or what his so called dream team is going to be.
I cant see where a clean sheet is coming from and will have the prayer mat out against the Arse, it is always a tough game there at the best of times, I just hope we can at least put up a good performance and bring some confidence back for the Leicester/Bournemouth games.
Been absolutely delighted with Hughes in his 2 seasons here, but In all honesty I have lost a little faith in him and cant see where he is going with this set of players. Where is the replacement for the ageing Whelan and where was the replacement for Nzonzi. Arguably Whelan is now our most important player. Why get rid of Huth, Leicester have not lost a bloody game since he joined - is Cameron the next level defender that we are looking for and a better player than Huth(I know he didn't play much after his injury, but he was still in our ranks to be chosen when needed - like now)
Top 6 was mentioned again leading up to the WBA game, which does lead me to believe he has ever so slightly lost the plot
Totally baffled and fecked off to be honest, but we do have twinkle toes and Shakira in our ranks so not all is lost.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 1, 2015 19:29:38 GMT
Maybe a touch over-egged but not too far off my thoughts actually.
Or are we knicker wetters?
We are aren't we?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 1, 2015 19:30:25 GMT
I've not read any of that but the answer is no, he said he was happy with what he had quite a bit ago, not a surprise we haven't gone all out to sign others is it.
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Post by stokie1130 on Sept 1, 2015 19:32:51 GMT
I really don't get what point ur trying to make with this post u flip from negative to positive at the end, u contradic urself, shit bin please as its just yet another negative thread and there's plenty on here from all the doom sayers already
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 19:32:42 GMT
Of course he has. Hughes out!! Blackpoolred in!!
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 1, 2015 19:33:53 GMT
He has enough credit in the bank to prove to everyone he can produce another masterstroke with this mismatched, patchwork side.
I have more than enough faith in him.
Mark Hughes barmy army.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Sept 1, 2015 19:34:19 GMT
Never been 100% convinced by MH though much more so now. However, what really scares me is how the owners have turned the tap off so severely on spending. W.B.A. have a net spend of £24m still hold onto Sado Saido yet Peace was trying to sell the club a few months ago! For a club with lower gates than Stoke, not only did they break their transfer record this season but last season too!
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Post by Davef on Sept 1, 2015 19:36:06 GMT
Don't you think a manager who's turned things from the kind of shite we witnessed on Saturday into two top ten Premier League finished deserves a bit more faith shown in him?
One thing's for certain, Mark Hughes' team showed a lot more backbone at the weekend than some Stoke fans are showing right now.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 1, 2015 19:37:56 GMT
Never been 100% convinced by MH though much more so now. However, what really scares me is how the owners have turned the tap off so severely on spending. W.B.A. have a net spend of £24m still hold onto Sado Saido yet Peace was trying to sell the club a few months ago! For a club with lower gates than Stoke, not only did they break their transfer record this season but last season too! Our net spend was over 10m...... If you take into account the big new building in euturia!
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 1, 2015 19:38:32 GMT
We've actually signed a CH this window.
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Post by alansuddick on Sept 1, 2015 19:39:11 GMT
Once again relatevely tiny net spend, have the purse strings been cut.would be crazy to miss out on next seasons mega bucks for the sake of a good defender
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Post by sportsman on Sept 1, 2015 19:39:36 GMT
Don't you think a manager who's turned things from the kind of shite we witnessed on Saturday into two top ten Premier League finished deserves a bit more faith shown in him? One thing's for certain, Mark Hughes' team showed a lot more backbone at the weekend than some Stoke fans are showing right now. Exactly. Though you've got to feel for those that took the day off today! Ha!
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 1, 2015 19:40:10 GMT
I really don't get what point ur trying to make with this post u flip from negative to positive at the end, u contradic urself, shit bin please as its just yet another negative thread and there's plenty on here from all the doom sayers already Shit bin bollocks Is this happy clappers board? Good post in my opinion. Whether you agree with it or not is different.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Sept 1, 2015 19:40:56 GMT
Don't you think a manager who's turned things from the kind of shite we witnessed on Saturday into two top ten Premier League finished deserves a bit more faith shown in him? One thing's for certain, Mark Hughes' team showed a lot more backbone at the weekend than some Stoke fans are showing right now. Ever heard of beginner's luck? It helps too when all your best players were brought to the club by your 'failed' predecessor! Best player at Stoke currently is Whelan and he cost £500,000 in a last minute transfer deadline deal that MH and 'the pizza boys' can only dream about and certainly never emulate!
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Post by jeycov on Sept 1, 2015 19:40:59 GMT
NO
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 1, 2015 19:40:58 GMT
It's funny that a massive pulls fan has never really taken to Hughes.
Can we now form the HHW's?
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 1, 2015 19:41:31 GMT
So the fact that Norwich created 20+ attempts is down to the fact we have Cameron at centre half, there really are some budding Mourinho's on here.
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Post by hoofmagic on Sept 1, 2015 19:41:36 GMT
We all have our own opinions...................
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 1, 2015 19:42:33 GMT
Don't you think a manager who's turned things from the kind of shite we witnessed on Saturday into two top ten Premier League finished deserves a bit more faith shown in him? One thing's for certain, Mark Hughes' team showed a lot more backbone at the weekend than some Stoke fans are showing right now. Come on ... some fans are really concerned about the lack of activity today. You have to admit we look a bit lopsided and weak in certain areas.
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Post by Davef on Sept 1, 2015 19:42:53 GMT
Don't you think a manager who's turned things from the kind of shite we witnessed on Saturday into two top ten Premier League finished deserves a bit more faith shown in him? One thing's for certain, Mark Hughes' team showed a lot more backbone at the weekend than some Stoke fans are showing right now. Ever heard of beginner's luck? It helps too when all your best players were brought to the club by your 'failed' predecessor! Best player at Stoke currently is Whelan and he cost £500,000 in a last minute transfer deadline deal that MH and 'the pizza boys' can only dream about and certainly never emulate! What a load of utter shit that is.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 1, 2015 19:43:40 GMT
Ever heard of beginner's luck? It helps too when all your best players were brought to the club by your 'failed' predecessor! Best player at Stoke currently is Whelan and he cost £500,000 in a last minute transfer deadline deal that MH and 'the pizza boys' can only dream about and certainly never emulate! Have you ever seen Mark Hughes managerial record in the premier league?
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Post by clarkeda on Sept 1, 2015 19:43:32 GMT
Don't you think a manager who's turned things from the kind of shite we witnessed on Saturday into two top ten Premier League finished deserves a bit more faith shown in him? One thing's for certain, Mark Hughes' team showed a lot more backbone at the weekend than some Stoke fans are showing right now. This. I simply can't fathom the pendulum swings on this board at the moment. We will win some games we expect to lose, we will lose and draw some we expect to win, we might finish top ten we might not. The same as EVERY OTHER SEASON. Enjoy the ride, watch some great football and stop panicking, one thing I do know is, we won't go down. Surely the rest doesn't matter THAT much
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 1, 2015 19:43:50 GMT
Don't you think a manager who's turned things from the kind of shite we witnessed on Saturday into two top ten Premier League finished deserves a bit more faith shown in him? One thing's for certain, Mark Hughes' team showed a lot more backbone at the weekend than some Stoke fans are showing right now. Ever heard of beginner's luck? It helps too when all your best players were brought to the club by your 'failed' predecessor! Best player at Stoke currently is Whelan and he cost £500,000 in a last minute transfer deadline deal that MH and 'the pizza boys' can only dream about and certainly never emulate! And another. Begginers luck for 2 seasons? A player in good current form is hardly our best player.
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Post by onyourbonce on Sept 1, 2015 19:46:36 GMT
Many on here need to give their heads a wobble. The man has broken all sorts of records with the club and people are asking questions like this? You might not be totally happy with what we have in certain areas, but Hughes clearly is and his judgement must be trusted. He deserves that at least? Rather than these fuckin stupid threads. Stop shitting your pants and support your club. We will be fine
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Sept 1, 2015 19:47:35 GMT
Ever heard of beginner's luck? It helps too when all your best players were brought to the club by your 'failed' predecessor! Best player at Stoke currently is Whelan and he cost £500,000 in a last minute transfer deadline deal that MH and 'the pizza boys' can only dream about and certainly never emulate! What a load of utter shit that is. Lovely! Which charm school did you attend? Most of the players in Hughes first season he inherited and probably true second season. I agree he added the essential flair to push us up five or so places in the league. It's not MH I have a problem with, it's the owners who talk of a big transfer kitty every window and deliver peanuts!
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 1, 2015 19:47:52 GMT
Don't you think a manager who's turned things from the kind of shite we witnessed on Saturday into two top ten Premier League finished deserves a bit more faith shown in him? One thing's for certain, Mark Hughes' team showed a lot more backbone at the weekend than some Stoke fans are showing right now. Ever heard of beginner's luck? It helps too when all your best players were brought to the club by your 'failed' predecessor! Best player at Stoke currently is Whelan and he cost £500,000 in a last minute transfer deadline deal that MH and 'the pizza boys' can only dream about and certainly never emulate! I would say Bojan is pretty close
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Sept 1, 2015 19:49:57 GMT
Ever heard of beginner's luck? It helps too when all your best players were brought to the club by your 'failed' predecessor! Best player at Stoke currently is Whelan and he cost £500,000 in a last minute transfer deadline deal that MH and 'the pizza boys' can only dream about and certainly never emulate! And another. Begginers luck for 2 seasons? A player in good current form is hardly our best player. O.K.. Name a better, more consistent, more valuable team player than Whelan. All the others have at best been inconsistent with the exception of Jack! And who brought Jack to Stoke? It wasn't MH!
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 1, 2015 19:50:31 GMT
Mark Hughes has done a fantastic job since he came to Stoke no doubt about that at all.What worries me is how long can he keep balancing the books and producing teams to "take the next step" as he says before he either gets pissed off or someone else comes in for him either. Also what i've also noticed on here of late is that if you question anything he does certain posters will jump down on you like a tonne of bricks.Every manager whatever they do is open to comment/criticism whatever their status as we found with the last incumbent.
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Post by rawli on Sept 1, 2015 19:52:24 GMT
Don't you think a manager who's turned things from the kind of shite we witnessed on Saturday into two top ten Premier League finished deserves a bit more faith shown in him? One thing's for certain, Mark Hughes' team showed a lot more backbone at the weekend than some Stoke fans are showing right now. Ever heard of beginner's luck? It helps too when all your best players were brought to the club by your 'failed' predecessor! Best player at Stoke currently is Whelan and he cost £500,000 in a last minute transfer deadline deal that MH and 'the pizza boys' can only dream about and certainly never emulate! My my. He's been awfully lucky at every club he's been at barring the basket case that is QPR. What an utterly imbecilic comment.
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 1, 2015 19:52:14 GMT
And another. Begginers luck for 2 seasons? A player in good current form is hardly our best player. O.K.. Name a better, more consistent, more valuable team player than Whelan. All the others have at best been inconsistent with the exception of Jack! And who brought Jack to Stoke? It wasn't MH! True ducking colours. Whelans playing well, yes. He's not our best player though. Would we get the most money from selling Whelan?
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