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Post by robstokie on May 5, 2018 17:25:36 GMT
I see I have got the fish on the line and as if you have to ask who I support haha Would it be the 89th best team out of 92? Give him credit - they are 88th
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Post by robstokie on May 5, 2018 17:20:08 GMT
Maybe our friend can return when he fucks a bird that doesn't happen to be his sister or his mother...
Oh, and congratulations on hitting the heady heights of 5th last in league 2 - go concentrate on your own team you plank
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Post by robstokie on May 5, 2018 17:05:13 GMT
Ryan BMI Bauer Badou The kids Sobhi Grant And maybe Choupo
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Post by robstokie on May 5, 2018 14:28:41 GMT
No way his fault - that sort of thing happens in football.
Messrs Berahino, Wimmer, Adam, Afellay etc on the other hand...
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Post by robstokie on May 5, 2018 14:26:15 GMT
Has to go tonight - give Rooster the gig for Swansea and play the kids - we might as well now.
The plan going forward - get rid of the dead wood and the mercenaries. Bring in a young, fresh progressive manager and bring the kids into it alongside Ryan, Badou, Bauer, BMI and Little Joe, DO NOT hand out extensions like fucking confetti....
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Post by robstokie on May 3, 2018 19:08:43 GMT
Stoke to stay up EVERY TIME.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 28, 2018 22:20:32 GMT
We need Huddersfield to lose their last 3 and Swansea and Soton to lose next weekend and draw Vs each other. Oh, and us to beat Palace next weekend. That would leave the table looking like this.
Huddersfield 35 (but with a catchable GD) Swansea 34 Soton 33 Us 33
Which would need us needing to beat Swansea, Soton to fail to win against Man City and Huddersfield either lose or fail to win against Arsenal (depending on how much their goal difference gets hot from Chelsea and City).
It's a slim fucking hope, and palace are no pushovers at the moment. Let's just do our bit on Saturday and pray....
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Post by robstokie on Apr 28, 2018 22:12:16 GMT
I'll be surprised if we aren't starting next season with the likes of Pieters, Johnson, Cameron, Fletcher, Adam, Crouch getting regular game time if not starting. Johnson's out of contract, right, and Pieters looks like he is off to China (even though today he was outstanding and the undoubted man of the match in my opinion)
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Post by robstokie on Apr 28, 2018 10:51:50 GMT
I have a bad feeling that today will be the day - I cant see us getting anything other than a thrashing today and Swansea sneaking it against Chelsea - it wouldn't be absolutely mathematical, but with our goal difference, it would be really...
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Post by robstokie on Apr 25, 2018 16:57:05 GMT
If Swansea win and we lose, we are down bar a massive swing in goal difference...
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Post by robstokie on Apr 25, 2018 16:53:10 GMT
Signed - its over 100,000 signatures now but the more signatures, the bigger the statement of intent.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 25, 2018 16:13:36 GMT
I’m sick of this bullshit “the manager had the final say on players” of course he did but I’ve no doubt he was putting forward a list of more high profile more expensive players to Scholes and Carto and they couldn’t or wouldn’t land them leaving lesser players for Hughes to ‘ok’. He’d got to have ‘some’ new faces in to try to freshen things up I’ve no doubt he was becoming more disillusioned over the last 18 months but he’s not going to quit and lose money he’s going to carrry on regardless. For me there are two indicators if you look back to prove Hughes wasn’t always spotting/pushing for players: Pieters was coming through the door as Pulis was leaving and Hughes was coming in so someone authorised that deal behind a managers back either the outgoing or incoming. I don’t believe Hughes chased Berahino for three windows and the 12 months after he signs sits in a press conference and says when asked why he isn’t playing him that “he doesn’t fit my system”. It’s bull Scholes/Carto no doubt ignored more high profile targets of Hughes choice only to get Berahino in as they thought they’d get him cheap and they could sell him on for treble the money if he started scoring again and it’s backfired spectacularly. If Coates thinks these people can bring us back including Lambert he’s deluded and fooling himself, I can see it now in 6-12 months they’ll be paying Lambert up and we will have another load of garbage to try and shift on It needs a clear out top to bottom and a restart Agree, but it won't be another load of garbage - it will be the same old faces in my opinion - the likes of Johnson, Adam, Ireland, Berahino etc...
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 19:16:04 GMT
Oh Fucking dear
Minor consolation - Scholes wasn't mentioned...
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 19:15:13 GMT
I'll chuck in Mark Warburton. Did well at Brentford, not so well at Forest, but most managers seem to flop there. Also currently out of work so no compo to pay. Also, by the time we actually sack Lambert our old friend Gary Rowett may be available, judging by the way Derby have been playing lately. Not a bad shout - hes done well at Brentford (didn't he get them to the play-offs?) and Rangers. He didn't do too badly at Forest either, he kept them up last season and they were mid-table and beat Arsenal in the cup just before he got the sack.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 14:18:00 GMT
We could do with a few more like Dicko or Wilko at the moment - yes, they very technically very limited, but they were solid characters who put a shift in - you certainly couldn't accuse them of giving up if things didn't go our way
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 14:11:22 GMT
on paper we got a whole team of quality internationals, champions league winners we just dont have the fight and spirit to go with it. wilko never had any premiership qualities but he would run through walls cant see many of our full backs doing that in todays team. whelan had modest talent but made the best of what he had and gave it all week in week out You could argue most of the promotion team and the team for the first season weren't great technically (Ric, Beattie and Ethers being exceptions) but we had big characters, good professionals who would take a bullet for the cause, a great team spirit and a distinctive style that allowed us to compete with teams that, on paper, would have turned us over. Basically, we had an identity, other teams feared coming to the Brit, it was a fortress, teams knew they were going to be bullied, both on the pitch and by a full house screaming blue murder at them. I think that identity started to die away the season after the cup final, but we still had honest grafters - your Ryan's, SJW and Whelan to name a few - that kept the dressing room together and application levels at 110%. In fact, I would argue that losing Walters and Whelan has hindered us more than Arnie - SJW and Glenn were big characters who wouldn't accept the apathy and lack of desire that is symptomatic of our club today.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 13:33:18 GMT
3 - we were good for the first half hour, but that's about it. After half time, we started shitting ourselves, defended so deep and the outcome was inevitable. Dreadful subs yet again - on Sparky's level.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 13:29:14 GMT
Sounds about right, bar the fact MM has had zero money and the fans on his back, yet he kept them comfortably mid-table. I think, out of all of them, he's probably the one Coates would gravitate towards - experience, teams that graft and hands-on management? Check, Check and Check
Of course - it's all theoretical because we will undoubtedly stick by Lambert and, if things go tits up next season, dither over Sacking him until the damage has been done...
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 13:23:41 GMT
You're pretty naive If you think this regime will bin s manager after a few months. Lambert IS their answer to the Championship. I know that Lambert will undoubtedly be in charge next season (unfortunately), I was talking theoretically.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 13:22:18 GMT
Even if we win all 3, we need results to go our way - I'm just hoping Liverpool will rest the big guns for the Champions League for us to even have a glimmer of hope to be honest...
Unfortunately, we cant beat our own meat at the moment - Its a matter of when rather than if.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 13:15:41 GMT
Mick McCarthy - has an excellent record in the championship, is a good rebuilder and has a track record of taking teams back up again.
Dean Smith - Has worked wonders on a shoestring at both Walsall and Brentford whilst still playing attractive football - deserves a crack at a bigger club.
Alex Neil - has Preston punching well above their weight this season, also has a record of success with Norwich.
David Moyes - free agent at end of the season and seems to thrive at clubs where he has a hands on chairman. Few stains on his record, but re-built Everton.
Phil Parkinson - performed miracles at Bradford and has done well to bring Bolton back into the championship despite having his hands tied behind his back.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 13:04:03 GMT
I actually fancy Lambert to be a steady (if not better) manager in the Championship. If he's going to be replaced however, it needs to be done quick - one thing that would definitely set us on the way to 'doing a Sunderland' is sacking him before getting a replacement 100% lined up. The last thing the club needs in the summer is instability and a mass exodus of players whilst we faff about trying to get someone to manage us. I think a mass exodus is needed to be honest - there's a lot of people (both on and off the pitch) who are dead rubber - Lambert inclusive. Problem is, even if Lambert goes (which seems very unlikely if I'm being totally honest) Coates will have another one of yesterday's men lined up instead of a fresh face or a rock the city appointment - Pardew or Coleman sound about the level we'd be looking at, Mick McCarthy if we are lucky....
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 12:55:32 GMT
I think we should throw caution to the wind and just go for them - there's nothing to lose now so to that end:
Grant
Ryan BMI Tommy Staffy
Badou Allen
Bauer Shaq Sobhi
Campbell
We are all but down anyway, so bring Campbell and Edwards in for minutes for next season, go out there swinging and just gamble - if we lose, we could be finished by half 7 Saturday night anyway...
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 12:50:55 GMT
An away game at somewhere like Rotherham on a wet, windy Tuesday night in November - which we will undoubtedly get turned over in. Can see it now.... Can Stoke do it on a wet windy November night in Rotherham 😳 Rotherham 4 Stoke City 0 - I can honestly see us doing a Sunderland...
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 10:57:08 GMT
An away game at somewhere like Rotherham on a wet, windy Tuesday night in November - which we will undoubtedly get turned over in.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 23, 2018 8:58:33 GMT
Shaq- a big club in a small footballing country ie galatasary Butland- liverpool next laughing stock (unfortunately) hes no better than mignolet Allen- anyone between 6th and 15th this season Better question, where will jese berahino wimmer and the rest be Jese - Getafe Wimmer and Berahino - Stoke 😑
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Post by robstokie on Apr 22, 2018 20:04:24 GMT
I like Moyes taken some bad jobs but I’d have confidence and a club like us could suit him. I agree with you there mate - Moyesy was Everton manager under Bill Kenwright - a guy cut from exactly the same cloth as Coatesy. I think Moyes would be a decent shout, not a rock the city appointment, but given decent (if not exceptional) funds and a chance to rebuild this club over 3-4 seasons, I would be happy enough with that appointment.
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Post by robstokie on Apr 22, 2018 19:57:27 GMT
I think Sparky HAD to go, his position was untenable for a good month before he went and we were sliding into the abyss, but Lambert was just about the most negative appointment we could have made.
The guy is a massive bottler - we look scared to push up on teams and play on the front foot and, on the odd occasion we go ahead, we don't look to press on, we just sit 10 men behind the ball and invite teams onto us, which ends in disaster. I honestly cant see us winning again this season. His decision making is just as bad as Sparkys - why did he bring Johnson and Bauer off today - playing Zouma as a right-back is asking for trouble and Bauer was our most potent attacking threat.
I just hope and pray we use the parachute payments and the TV money to get rid of the old gang and Lambert, and rebuild under a fresh young manager with a long term plan, but I fear we wont and we will stuck with the same old aging plodders and mercenaries, but without the few players we have who have genuine quality (so Shaq, Butland, Bauer, Badou and Allen). I honestly fear we are going to do a Sunderland...
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Post by robstokie on Apr 21, 2018 10:27:01 GMT
I'm not going to defend him, but I will just say with 10-15 minutes to go, he might actually do a job if it's still 0-0 and we're getting balls into the box. He will be desperate to make up for his recent fuck ups as well...... Maybe if we played him further forward, as Sparky did for his first 2 seasons, but he is utterly spent playing as a centre-mid...
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Post by robstokie on Apr 20, 2018 11:38:23 GMT
Hes optimistic - I can honestly see us falling apart if Burnley get one early on.
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