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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 13, 2022 16:15:34 GMT
How dare a legend of the club,commentating on a local radio station be a bit biased towards his team. Fuck me,get a grip. There's a bit if bias and there's also talking a right load of shit. Denis' commentary today has fallen firmly in the latter. Which particular bit did you disagree with. You saying Huddersfield didn't sit 10 men behind the ball for example,much like Morecambe did?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 13, 2022 16:10:01 GMT
This afternoon he’s claimed at half time that “we battered them”, claimed that they “know they’re in a fortunate position and will just shut up shop now” while Huddersfield were literally in the process of scoring their third goal, and then said “the score should be the other way around”. Huddersfield “are like a lower league team playing a Premier League team the way they’re hanging on, it’s ridiculous” - with the score at 3-1. Him and Johnson then proceeded to claim that “you can’t blame the manager, you have to look at the players”. Now I haven’t seen the game today but it sure as shit doesn’t sound like the game people on here have watched or people on social media have watched. Does any of that sound like a fair appraisal of the game or is it more rose-tinted nonsense? How dare a legend of the club,commentating on a local radio station be a bit biased towards his team. Fuck me,get a grip.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 8, 2022 9:42:29 GMT
It's not a personal thing, absolutely not, and I'm certainly not claiming to know you better than you know yourself, that'd be daft of me. What I've said is based on what you've posted in the past, that's all. Anyone can follow whoever they like, I even said "He's a MON fan, there's nothing wrong with that, each to their own", but I personally can't imagine following an individual in a team sport. I can understand having a fondness for another team though. With me it's AFC Wimbledon and Aylesbury United thanks to those being my favourite Football Manager saves ever. I haven't said that because you're a MON fan (or, rowing back slightly, based on what you post, you come across as a MON fan with a recent fondness for Stoke) that your opinion is invalid either. I said "Does it make his opinions any less valid? Course not." which is in support of you. But because you've openly accepted that you have a slight bias then you have to accept that some people will raise more of an eyebrow. Having an opinion that's got an admitted bias is understandably going to be questioned more than the average opinion sadly. But it absolutely doesn't make it invalid because that's your opinion and you don't need me to tell you that's it as valid as anyone elses. In terms of how many people like a post, who honestly cares? It doesn't make an opinion anymore more valid, just like a post with zero likes makes it less valid. And for me, I haven't got anything to accept in terms of the manager because ultimately people can choose whether to support the bloke or not. I think for me I'd just hope the opinion is based on the facts and what's actually going on, rather than it being biased. But again, for me, it doesn't make that opinion any less valid and anyone should be comfortable enough to express them. If you did feel like I'd played in part in making it personal, and therefore it coming across as a personal attack on you or your opinions than I apologise, that wasn't my intention at all. I appreciate you posting back respectfully though, rather than mindlessly jumping in like another poster did. Does being a MON fan and Stoke fan have to be mutually exclusive. So you have to be one or the other but not both. So Barcelona fans which began supporting during the Messi era and continued supporting after, are Messi fans but not Barcelona fans? And Chelsea fans which began to follow Chelsea under Jose and continue after are Jose fans and not Chelsea fans? I admit there is a bias for the sake of being open. It's not too hard to create a second account here and post under a different allias if I wanted to be bias. But I don't. I attempt to be more balanced. I think consistently claiming someone isn't a Stoke fan and claiming you know better is personal. It's about me, of course it is. I take it as a compliment though. When your argument is reduced to claiming someone who is actively supporting the playing squad and manager isn't a fan then it must mean I'm making good arguments. And thus people want to get personal to discredit me. Just ignore the trolls.They're not happy unless they're moaning.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 5, 2022 17:49:21 GMT
Moore's still got another year on crazy money at Reading, I think. And he's injured for a few months with the injury he picked up here Can't think of any feasible free transfers for us. Grabban, Carroll, Sturridge - but nothing you'd really want, so no idea who he had in mind. Mawson has already supposedly failed a medical. It does look like we're all-in on Delap and Clarke until ...we're not He keeps mentioning players that are available on a free though,thought you'd have an extensive list!
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Post by stokerstayinup on Jul 30, 2022 16:46:04 GMT
The system worked fine away from home last season.It's at home that it wants fucking off. Just find it all a bit ironic looking for blame when we've just played away to a team that's managed by the bloke who put us where we are.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Jul 20, 2022 11:41:07 GMT
The Terrace in Penkhull won't be providing transport for this coming season so wondering if there's any other pubs in the Penkhull/Hartshill area that do. There is 10-15(depending on other commitments) of us. Any advice appreciated.
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Post by stokerstayinup on May 7, 2022 20:52:35 GMT
I'll keep it simple,it's the Championship. It's small margins. Huddersfield and Luton are in the play offs ffs, Barnsley finished there last season and finished rock bottom this season. Yeah, I’m not sure just saying ‘it’s the Championship’ is quite the incisive argument you think it is. In most of those cases, again, something happened to get those clubs into those positions. Barnsley lost their manager and some key players. Luton had been on an upward curve since Jones returned and supplemented that with good recruitment. Huddersfield are the real surprise package, I’ll grant you, but they’re far more an exception than the rule. Haha,it's not an argument,it's a fact. We all start on zero points next season,this isn't the prem where the cream always rises to the top. If you don't think we would have been in or around the play off positions had Souttar and Powell not been injured for the majority of the season then we're not going to agree on much.
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Post by stokerstayinup on May 7, 2022 19:04:38 GMT
'The unpredictable happens for a reason' Cheers Mr Hindsight,that's useful. Of course it’s hindsight, I’m not sure what your point is? I was responding to Wuzza’s suggestion that things just turn and you have to be patient. There’s no reason to believe they will based on what we’re seeing at the moment. Even in 2007-08 while automatic promotion was unexpected, there was reason to believe with our resources and flirtation with the play offs the previous season that we’d be placed to at least have a crack at repeating that. It’s not remotely the same situation as three bottom half finishes and needing half a team from a recruitment team that’s got as much wrong as right. I'll keep it simple,it's the Championship. It's small margins. Huddersfield and Luton are in the play offs ffs, Barnsley finished there last season and finished rock bottom this season.
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Post by stokerstayinup on May 7, 2022 18:48:31 GMT
Absolute nonsense,this is the Championship. This board had no faith whatsoever in Pulis getting us promoted (me included by the way) Sorry, it's 'absolute nonsense' to imagine things just materialise out of the ether. Even the unexpected or unpredictable usually happens for a reason. We were promoted under Pulis because the takeover was finally nearing fruit after a settling in period and he by and large spent that bounty wisely. 'The unpredictable happens for a reason' Cheers Mr Hindsight,that's useful.
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Post by stokerstayinup on May 7, 2022 18:41:23 GMT
Nothing new really - the TP and MH (initial) years were the exception rather than the rule. I’m amazed people haven’t learnt to roll with the punches a bit more Things can and will turn ....eventually. . Things don’t just happen though. There has to be a reason to believe. There isn’t one currently. Absolute nonsense,this is the Championship. This board had no faith whatsoever in Pulis getting us promoted (me included by the way)
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 21, 2022 18:20:14 GMT
N'Zonzi Arnie Shaq
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 19, 2022 14:26:29 GMT
I’ve learned to take nothing for granted 😩 I would hope it would spark the rebellion we need to give everyone at the club the kick up the arse they need if it were to happen. There's no way he should be playing for anyone bar us next season. Rebellion haha What are you going to do,up your daily post count?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 18, 2022 20:38:38 GMT
Absolutely it's been a disappointing season,there's no getting away from that. Powell would definitely have helped break down deep lying defences.Also think Sawyers is capable of that but he of course also picked up a bad injury.When you add in to that Campbell's poor form I think there's still reason for things to change next season. Yet he’s too often picked unbalanced sides, not played Sawyers in his most effective position, the likes of DWP and JPB have gone unused after promising starts, we’ve chopped and changed personnel and systems frantically in the hope that something sticks. It’s as much on him as it is the injuries. His biggest mistake was replacing the injured Souttar with Batth/Chester and expecting us to play in the same way.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 18, 2022 20:33:57 GMT
I hate being negative after a win, but I think Mowbray totally out managed MON today. He changed his team at half time and took control of the match and they got better with each substitution. Stoke's performance bar Bonham got worse as the game went on. We got lucky with an early goal well taken by Brown, were unlucky with some ref decisions, but the difference in the teams was Bonham. Their GK was hardly troubled by us after our goal. We had 2 shots on target in 90 minutes!!! I get deja vu these days when Fletcher comes on to achieve absolutely nothing, just like Vokes last season. They had free headers and shots which were generally terrible apart from the excellent saves. On chances we should have lost and if I was a Blackburn fan I would be pretty cheesed off. As it is, Brown and our GK won the match for us, despite all the mismanagement. He changed his team at half time because they were being completely outplayed. He took one of their centre halves off because he qas 1 foul away from being sent off and he couldnt handle Maja
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 18, 2022 20:27:16 GMT
16 points from the first 6 home games before the Souttar and Powell injuries Even without them, and with the backing he's had, we should have been able to do better than we have done though surely? All that suggests is that we rely painfully heavily on Powell still. Absolutely it's been a disappointing season,there's no getting away from that. Powell would definitely have helped break down deep lying defences.Also think Sawyers is capable of that but he of course also picked up a bad injury.When you add in to that Campbell's poor form I think there's still reason for things to change next season.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 18, 2022 18:06:34 GMT
Is there really much of a conundrum when you weigh it all up? A man with a handle on the club, settling in his recruitment model, loads of players out of contract/loan after spending two years laying the FFP groundwork. Is trying to play a good brand of football that we are seeing in fits and starts. Fundamentally not much is broken just a frustrating fag paper difference between the top teams and where we are. We could rip it all up and start again, or we could be sensible and give him another go next year. No discussion for me. He has to stay and be backed as much as possible. It isn't a 'fag paper difference' though is it? It's a Rowett-like inability against teams who don't let you play on the break? That's a much more systemic and fundamental problem than just 'aw shucks, what are you gonna do, maybe next year our luck will be in'? 16 points from the first 6 home games before the Souttar and Powell injuries
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 15, 2022 18:25:15 GMT
Can you explain that please? I have no idea what he is supposed to have done. I have no idea what has happened either but you’ve got his family carping on social media on every match day (his mum put a picture of him in his England kit seconds after Bonham’s error today) and a very good and reliable person has suggested he has submitted at least one transfer request since the turn of the year. He's played no better(or worse) than Davies or Bonham this season imo.I can understand his family supporting him but it's hardly the biggest injustice in football that he's not in the team.If he wants to leave,then so be it.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 15, 2022 18:21:16 GMT
I'm in O'Neill's corner but that was fkn woeful.Seen more passion in a pre season friendly. Thanks to IPTV I've watched every away game and we've played some good stuff leading to deserved praise from opposition managers. Got to mix it up at home,go a bit more direct.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 24, 2022 13:05:32 GMT
Leigh Palin
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 19, 2022 18:34:28 GMT
Bonham 8 Harwood Bellis 8 Jagielka 7 Moore 7 Tymon 7 Allen 8 Baker 7 Vrancic 6 Brown 7 Wright Philips 7 Maja 7
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 19, 2022 8:17:53 GMT
In the Xg tables think we were in the play offs so he actually got a lot right. The 2 biggest culprits were Gregory and Butland.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 19, 2022 8:03:48 GMT
Farke's record for Norwich in the Championship reads 138 games 251 points. His record in the Prem is 49 games 26 points.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 11, 2022 22:10:09 GMT
'You can never fault D'Margio for his application and his effort' Yeah O'Neill's proper throw him under the bus there.Some of the comments on this thread are laughable. You've ignored the part where he said he had a shit game.... Does he ever say that about Clucas, Chester, Bonham, Allen, Smith and so on... Or is it constantly the young lads he digs out He said he didn't have his best game but still praised his work rate and application.You twist it all you want.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 11, 2022 21:04:48 GMT
'You can never fault D'Margio for his application and his effort' Yeah O'Neill's proper throw him under the bus there.Some of the comments on this thread are laughable.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 10, 2022 8:21:05 GMT
In,but the performances at home have to improve between now and the end of the season.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 1, 2022 21:56:27 GMT
Bonham 6 Smith 7 Moore 8 Bellis 7 Chester 7 Tymon 8 Allen 7 Sawyers 7 Powell 5 Maja 7
Subs Brown 6 Vrancic N/A Campbell N/A
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Post by stokerstayinup on Feb 8, 2022 22:33:19 GMT
What a pen btw,finally we've found someone who can score spot kicks.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Feb 8, 2022 22:30:17 GMT
Bursik 6 Wilmot 8 Jags 7 PHB 7 Tymon 8 Allen 7 Baker 9 Powell 7 Brown 8 Campbell 7 Bidace 8
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Post by stokerstayinup on Feb 5, 2022 17:30:08 GMT
Player's (can) improve.This highlights the biggest problem with football forums/message boards imo.Posters are so insistent that they're right,that they can't change their opinion on a player.When it's one of ours,it's just a little bit sad.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Jan 28, 2022 23:57:44 GMT
x 1000 is how many posts the rest of us have had to endure from you.How do you think we feel? I refer you to point 1 of the quoted post 😂😂😂 Oh I know how you feel,I was asking you to spare a thought for the rest of us
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