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Post by lordb on Apr 9, 2022 17:45:31 GMT
I understand why people are calling for Bursik to play (& develop) and tbh I think that is the way forward However just think Bonham deserves some credit He gets a lot of stick 'Gillingham 3rd choice keeper' (which he wasn't by the way) and other nonsense To me he's a perfectly acceptable second choice keeper, he's got to be on buttons too. Has some good games lately but still gets stick when we don't win Don’t get it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2022 17:48:03 GMT
I understand why people are calling for Bursik to play (& develop) and tbh I think that is the way forward However just think Bonham deserves some credit He gets a lot of stick 'Gillingham 3rd choice keeper' (which he was by the way) and other nonsense To me he's a perfectly acceptable second choice keeper, he's got to be on buttons too. Has some good games lately but still gets stick when we don't win Don’t get it. If Bursik stays. Bonham has been poor the last two games. Was fine today.
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Post by lordb on Apr 9, 2022 17:49:55 GMT
I understand why people are calling for Bursik to play (& develop) and tbh I think that is the way forward However just think Bonham deserves some credit He gets a lot of stick 'Gillingham 3rd choice keeper' (which he was by the way) and other nonsense To me he's a perfectly acceptable second choice keeper, he's got to be on buttons too. Has some good games lately but still gets stick when we don't win Don’t get it. If Bursik stays. Bonham has been poor the last two games. Was fine today. He played fine at Reading but we lost so he gets stick Played well v Millwall and had little to do v Sheffield United
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Post by Roger Everyone on Apr 9, 2022 17:51:20 GMT
Yes credit is due for today's performance Keepers need a run of games in the team all this chopping and changing doesn't help. Bursik is the future I believe.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2022 17:51:28 GMT
If Bursik stays. Bonham has been poor the last two games. Was fine today. He played fine at Reading but we lost so he gets stick Played well v Millwall and had little to do v Sheffield United He had little to do vs Sheff U and did it badly. He did loads wrong vs Reading. Just coming for stuff he should never be coming for. Losing Bursik to play Bonham would be one of the worst management decisions at this club in some time.
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Post by Veritas on Apr 9, 2022 17:53:15 GMT
He played fine at Reading but we lost so he gets stick Played well v Millwall and had little to do v Sheffield United He had little to do vs Sheff U and did it badly. He did loads wrong vs Reading. Just coming for stuff he should never be coming for. Losing Bursik to play Bonham would be one of the worst management decisions at this club in some time. I agree but haven’t seen any indication we would be looking to let Bursik go.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2022 17:54:06 GMT
He had little to do vs Sheff U and did it badly. He did loads wrong vs Reading. Just coming for stuff he should never be coming for. Losing Bursik to play Bonham would be one of the worst management decisions at this club in some time. I agree but haven’t seen any indication we would be looking to let Bursik go. I’m not worried about our side of the bargain.
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Post by lordb on Apr 9, 2022 17:55:23 GMT
He played fine at Reading but we lost so he gets stick Played well v Millwall and had little to do v Sheffield United He had little to do vs Sheff U and did it badly. He did loads wrong vs Reading. Just coming for stuff he should never be coming for. Losing Bursik to play Bonham would be one of the worst management decisions at this club in some time. Initially dropped for disciplinary reasons as you well know Sorry but any decent manager simply has to do that otherwise you end up with late period Hughes style culture However DWP came back from the naughty step weeks ago and so should Bursik I'm not arguing Bonham should be first choice I just think he's underrated Completely disagree with your assessment of his recent performances
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2022 17:56:29 GMT
He played fine at Reading but we lost so he gets stick Played well v Millwall and had little to do v Sheffield United He had little to do vs Sheff U and did it badly. He did loads wrong vs Reading. Just coming for stuff he should never be coming for. Losing Bursik to play Bonham would be one of the worst management decisions at this club in some time. Maybe Bursik has asked to leave and it just hasn’t been made public?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2022 17:57:02 GMT
He had little to do vs Sheff U and did it badly. He did loads wrong vs Reading. Just coming for stuff he should never be coming for. Losing Bursik to play Bonham would be one of the worst management decisions at this club in some time. Initially dropped for disciplinary reasons as you well know Sorry but any decent manager simply has to do that otherwise you end up with late period Hughes style culture However DWP came back from the naughty step weeks ago and so should Bursik I'm not arguing Bonham should be first choice I just think he's underrated Completely disagree with your assessment of his recent performances I couldn’t give a shit about disciplinary issues. There’s a picture here and the manager I think has fucked it. I’d be very shocked if Bursik plays next season.
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Post by pieofpeter on Apr 9, 2022 17:57:04 GMT
He had little to do vs Sheff U and did it badly. He did loads wrong vs Reading. Just coming for stuff he should never be coming for. Losing Bursik to play Bonham would be one of the worst management decisions at this club in some time. I agree but haven’t seen any indication we would be looking to let Bursik go. Bursik needs to develop quickly imo still doesn't convince me he's going to be top draw!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2022 17:57:23 GMT
He had little to do vs Sheff U and did it badly. He did loads wrong vs Reading. Just coming for stuff he should never be coming for. Losing Bursik to play Bonham would be one of the worst management decisions at this club in some time. Maybe Bursik has asked to leave and it just hasn’t been made public? And that would be 100% on the manager.
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Post by Veritas on Apr 9, 2022 17:58:15 GMT
He had little to do vs Sheff U and did it badly. He did loads wrong vs Reading. Just coming for stuff he should never be coming for. Losing Bursik to play Bonham would be one of the worst management decisions at this club in some time. Initially dropped for disciplinary reasons as you well know Sorry but any decent manager simply has to do that otherwise you end up with late period Hughes style culture However DWP came back from the naughty step weeks ago and so should Bursik I'm not arguing Bonham should be first choice I just think he's underrated Completely disagree with your assessment of his recent performances Was he really dropped for disciplinary reasons? I have seen that quoted on here but that is far from meaning it is true. Has any journalist raised this with MON? I am sure they would have done if they thought there was any truth in it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2022 18:01:22 GMT
Maybe Bursik has asked to leave and it just hasn’t been made public? And that would be 100% on the manager. Or ambition to be in the Premier League?
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 9, 2022 18:02:48 GMT
And that would be 100% on the manager. Or ambition to be in the Premier League? Not to state the obvious, but - exactly.
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Post by lordb on Apr 9, 2022 18:05:31 GMT
Initially dropped for disciplinary reasons as you well know Sorry but any decent manager simply has to do that otherwise you end up with late period Hughes style culture However DWP came back from the naughty step weeks ago and so should Bursik I'm not arguing Bonham should be first choice I just think he's underrated Completely disagree with your assessment of his recent performances I couldn’t give a shit about disciplinary issues. There’s a picture here and the manager I think has fucked it. I’d be very shocked if Bursik plays next season. Whoever the manager is Has to give a shit about disciplinary issues, if they don't then it all goes to shit very quickly
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Post by lordb on Apr 9, 2022 18:06:35 GMT
Initially dropped for disciplinary reasons as you well know Sorry but any decent manager simply has to do that otherwise you end up with late period Hughes style culture However DWP came back from the naughty step weeks ago and so should Bursik I'm not arguing Bonham should be first choice I just think he's underrated Completely disagree with your assessment of his recent performances Was he really dropped for disciplinary reasons? I have seen that quoted on here but that is far from meaning it is true. Has any journalist raised this with MON? I am sure they would have done if they thought there was any truth in it. Bursik and DWP were on the pop away at Bournemouth
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2022 18:08:40 GMT
I couldn’t give a shit about disciplinary issues. There’s a picture here and the manager I think has fucked it. I’d be very shocked if Bursik plays next season. Whoever the manager is Has to give a shit about disciplinary issues, if they don't then it all goes to shit very quickly I mean we don’t know that’s true for a start. And it doesn’t need people being dropped especially for sub par replacements.
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Post by Veritas on Apr 9, 2022 18:19:02 GMT
Was he really dropped for disciplinary reasons? I have seen that quoted on here but that is far from meaning it is true. Has any journalist raised this with MON? I am sure they would have done if they thought there was any truth in it. Bursik and DWP were on the pop away at Bournemouth Says who?
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Post by lordb on Apr 9, 2022 18:19:36 GMT
Bursik and DWP were on the pop away at Bournemouth Says who? Every man and his dog
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2022 18:20:06 GMT
And it’s been refuted too. It’s just a shit rumour.
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Post by lordb on Apr 9, 2022 18:21:35 GMT
Whoever the manager is Has to give a shit about disciplinary issues, if they don't then it all goes to shit very quickly I mean we don’t know that’s true for a start. And it doesn’t need people being dropped especially for sub par replacements. The general point is absolutely clear If players transgress they have to be disciplined and if necessary dropped
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2022 18:22:21 GMT
I mean we don’t know that’s true for a start. And it doesn’t need people being dropped especially for sub par replacements. The general point is absolutely clear If players transgress they have to be disciplined and if necessary dropped It wasn’t necessary.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 9, 2022 18:26:58 GMT
And they all know for sure because they were there? As our old headmaster used to say he only wanted to hear from people who were there and saw what happened, not people who had been told what happened. Ever played Chinese whispers?
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Post by liathroid on Apr 9, 2022 18:26:59 GMT
Played well today
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Post by wuzza on Apr 9, 2022 19:12:16 GMT
Simple fact is Bonham came into the side for whatever reason and has subsequently played well enough not to be dropped - it is right and proper that he hasn’t been.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 9, 2022 19:17:50 GMT
If Bursik stays. Bonham has been poor the last two games. Was fine today. He played fine at Reading but we lost so he gets stick Played well v Millwall and had little to do v Sheffield United He doesn’t play “fine” though. How often does he make saves that are relatively challenging? It’s not exactly commonplace. He’s conceded 16 goals in 13 games. Not using Bursik is just throwing money away at this point.
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Post by stokemark on Apr 9, 2022 19:19:36 GMT
I think he (Bonham) was poor at Reading (I went) and if it had been Bursik he would have been dropped. Neither keeper is good enough for a sustained push at the top of this league and the overall situation sums up why we are 15th
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Post by iamstokie on Apr 9, 2022 19:20:36 GMT
Maybe Bursik has asked to leave and it just hasn’t been made public? And that would be 100% on the manager. Bursik is overrated , he’s a mistake waiting to happen
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 9, 2022 21:16:35 GMT
Bursik should be number one next season and continue his progress. I can certainly live with Bonham being his backup.
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