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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 19:54:20 GMT
He's a natural goalscorer man,come on,who do you want the chances falling to? He was. His natural goalscoring instinct used to make him worth having on the pitch even when not in the game. This season his touch has deserted him. Has he scored yet. There have been plenty of opportunities which the pre injury Campbell would have sunk. You can tell his confidence is gone by the number of times he passes when he has a sight on goal and how his shots are all central rather than in the corners. Taking him off at half time isn't going to be a confidence boost. He's only scored twice this season but the goal against Preston is unlikely to be repeated by anyone else in our squad.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 19:01:14 GMT
Bit harsh saying O'Neill was doing more harm than good imo when our best 3/4 players were all injured at the same time. It's the overall narrative on here that's changing which isn't right. There was plenty wanting O'Neill out cos our squad was good enough to be challenging for top 6,now he's gone,the general feeling is Neil needs 2 or more windows to sort out the problems,can't have it both ways. It’s not that simple though is it? Neil has his own style of play that’s different to MON’s and will want to build a side who can play it. MON was allowed to sign another boatload of players in the summer, managed to fail to win all but one of his games and left the squad looking more of a misshapen mess than it was before the summer. Style? Not seen much evidence of that,ever likely Campbell's getting shit on here. A good manager can build a team from the squad available,it's worrying times.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:53:43 GMT
I had Glandular fever when I was a kid and it affected me for a long time simply don't understand why he is being picked I do,and it flys in the face of what crouchpotato has just posted,but I think Neil realises Campbell is the goalscorer of the team.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:51:08 GMT
You were a fan of changing the manager to move sideways.When does it stop being O'Neill's fault and Neil can take some reponsibility? I was and am a fan of changing the manager when that manager is clearly running on fumes and doing more harm than good. I’ve never said Neil has no responsibility. He’s underperforming and overall has been a huge disappointment so far. It’ll stop being O’Neill’s fault entirely when it starts looking more like Neil’s team, ie when he’s had a couple of windows. Bit harsh saying O'Neill was doing more harm than good imo when our best 3/4 players were all injured at the same time. It's the overall narrative on here that's changing which isn't right. There was plenty wanting O'Neill out cos our squad was good enough to be challenging for top 6,now he's gone,the general feeling is Neil needs 2 or more windows to sort out the problems,can't have it both ways.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:42:30 GMT
Haha,you had to get another dig in,uninterested? 4-2-3-1 wide right Its not a dig fellow it’s what I see with my own eyes most weeks And who do you see scoring the goals for us to get us out of this mess?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:39:15 GMT
He was given the job of dismantllng the team that he inherited,with no money to spend. While at the same time reducing the wage bill to a third or a quarter of what it was when he arrived. I thought that he should have seen his contract out and left in June '23. Personally, I think he would have done better than AN has done so far. It looks to me that AN has lost the dressing room, so the sooner he can get his own players in the better. I think it is obvious that he can't get the present players to play for him. MON's results were bad. AN is doing badly too but I just don't see a single relevant metric related to MON's last six or so months in the job to suggest he'd be doing better, and more damningly it's the squad he assembled. What was going to get better? Was he going to unmuddle the muddle he'd created? You were a fan of changing the manager to move sideways.When does it stop being O'Neill's fault and Neil can take some reponsibility?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:33:19 GMT
Create chances for the finisher would be my message,certainly wouldn't take him off at half time.You telling me the manager doesn't know his strengths and weaknesses,yet we're 1-0 down at ht and he takes him off,crazy man. Said to my lad after 20 mins,blimey didn't realise Campbell was playing,but that's not the point,evryone knew Delap was playing cos he was fouling defenders every 2 minutes,I know who I want playing out of the 2. And what system would you play then to get the most out of the uninterested Campbell? Haha,you had to get another dig in,uninterested? 4-2-3-1 wide right
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:27:56 GMT
He's a natural goalscorer man,come on,who do you want the chances falling to? I agree he’s a finisher but as a team player you’ve got to offer more than just walking/idling around the pitch in my opinion.He’s bone idle Create chances for the finisher would be my message,certainly wouldn't take him off at half time.You telling me the manager doesn't know his strengths and weaknesses,yet we're 1-0 down at ht and he takes him off,crazy man. Said to my lad after 20 mins,blimey didn't realise Campbell was playing,but that's not the point,evryone knew Delap was playing cos he was fouling defenders every 2 minutes,I know who I want playing out of the 2.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:22:37 GMT
What exactly is he supposed to do if he doesn't see the ball? This direct football isn't going to suit him is it,he needs ball to feet. He never made an attempt to create space, time and again clarke basically went past him. Can't remember us having the ball down the right much in the 1st half tbh
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:19:12 GMT
Play to his strengths then.1-0 down at half time you don't take the player off who's most likely to score a goal out of nothing,do you? And what would that strength be you talk about🤔 He's a natural goalscorer man,come on,who do you want the chances falling to?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:15:43 GMT
He didn't get into the game today,I blame the tactics,not sure why you're blaming his effort. Today😊Its been the same for 80/90% of the season Play to his strengths then.1-0 down at half time you don't take the player off who's most likely to score a goal out of nothing,do you?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:12:56 GMT
What exactly is he supposed to do if he doesn't see the ball? This direct football isn't going to suit him is it,he needs ball to feet. Moving around might help Today?,he was playing wide right wasn't he,where do you want him to move to?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:11:29 GMT
What exactly is he supposed to do if he doesn't see the ball? This direct football isn't going to suit him is it,he needs ball to feet. Effort and desire would be a start He didn't get into the game today,I blame the tactics,not sure why you're blaming his effort.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:06:44 GMT
He touched the ball a grand total of 8 times, 4 attempted passes only 2 completed. Not good enough. What exactly is he supposed to do if he doesn't see the ball? This direct football isn't going to suit him is it,he needs ball to feet.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 18:02:27 GMT
As the games pass us by,I keep thinking it's early days and Neil will prove himself but it's been a very uninspiring transition from O'Neill.Kept reading on here that the squad was good enough to be top 6,well there's not been an easier season to reach those heights,and he's looking way out of his depth. Just because some fans are saying the squad is top 6… doesn’t mean that it is. Maybe he’s achieving par for the squad he has. Maybe the squad is shit. No shit.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Nov 12, 2022 17:59:14 GMT
As the games pass us by,I keep thinking it's early days and Neil will prove himself but it's been a very uninspiring transition from O'Neill.Kept reading on here that the squad was good enough to be top 6,well there's not been an easier season to reach those heights,and he's looking way out of his depth.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 8, 2022 18:29:52 GMT
Bursik 5 - still can’t kick, won’t command his area and puts us in trouble far too often Wilmot 7 - nice finish Jagielka 8 - great assist and nice header, solid and commanding Fox 6 - better than normal, perhaps 6.5 Sterling 7 - amazing what playing a player in his natural position can do Baker 7 - solid game, vocal Laurent 7 - improved, put himself about Smallbone 7 - much improved Fosu 8 - see Sterling, absolutely brilliant, an 8 feels slightly harsh Campbell 6 - shied out of a bit but needs games Gayle 7 - connected with play well Clucas 6 - did enough Clarke 6 - love this guy Delap 7 - was worried when he missed his chance but delighted when he scored a very similar one, hopefully the spark needed Thompson n/a I’ve sort of copied the club’s pre match line up but I think it was more 433 than 352 Seriously? The best performance since before we were relegated and you're giving out 5s and 6s? We played well today but come on,steady on.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 31, 2022 22:54:30 GMT
I'm all for giving the new manager the benefit of the doubt but to say we were entertaining is a massive stretch of the imagination.First 5 and last 10 minutes aside we were outplayed.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 31, 2022 22:33:38 GMT
And still better than Bursik.Hopefully Neil signs a new keeper in the next 24 hours. Is he? They are both hopeless The first signing of the summer/the majority of our budget should have been on a keeper.Like i said hopefully Neil gets one in before the window shuts, but if not Bonham should play.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 31, 2022 22:07:02 GMT
I can’t believe what I’m reading here. He was clearly at fault for their goal (I thought flint was going to throttle him) he doesn’t communicate at all and his pat away second half was both lucky and extremely shit. He made 1 really good save low to his left 1st half and everything else was routine stuff you’d expect any keeper to make. He’s dreadful. And still better than Bursik.Hopefully Neil signs a new keeper in the next 24 hours.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 31, 2022 21:08:46 GMT
Just admit he’s better than Bursik. It’s got nothing to do with Bursik. Bursik needs going out on loan now. New number one in and Bonham on the bench. It's another one you got wrong. Your success rate is embarassing
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 27, 2022 16:25:20 GMT
He's a Championship Pieters,reliable defensively but if you want something going forwards,ya get frustrated.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 13, 2022 16:32:47 GMT
Yeah, and you're trying to justify it by saying that ONE of their goals were offside so I was right in saying we STILL would have lost 2-1 yeah? Gayle's 'goal' was onside so add that to things that don't matter.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 13, 2022 16:30:20 GMT
The goal that was 3 yards offside? What’s that got to do with the price of fish? We'd just had a goal disallowed for offside that looked on. Very opinionated for someone who didn't watch the game.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 13, 2022 16:27:27 GMT
The goal that was 3 yards offside? So we still lost 2-1 then, yeah? We lost 3-1 mate
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 13, 2022 16:23:57 GMT
Which particular bit did you disagree with. You saying Huddersfield didn't sit 10 men behind the ball for example,much like Morecambe did? How about the bit that it’s nothing to do with the manager? How about the bit that lucky old Huddersfield won’t even try and score another goal because they know they’re so lucky, spoken just as they were doing precisely that? The goal that was 3 yards offside?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 13, 2022 16:21:47 GMT
How dare a legend of the club,commentating on a local radio station be a bit biased towards his team. Fuck me,get a grip. Well what’s the fucking point of him being there then? Any fucker can sing we’ll be with you and say that everything’s fine, do you not want someone actually analysing what the issues are? I’d rather have someone competent and objective with no connection to Stoke whatsoever providing insight into what’s going on than a club legend happy clapping. Any fucker can sing we’ll be with you and say that everything’s fine Not strictly true,rules out most off this board.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 13, 2022 16:15:34 GMT
How dare a legend of the club,commentating on a local radio station be a bit biased towards his team. Fuck me,get a grip. There's a bit if bias and there's also talking a right load of shit. Denis' commentary today has fallen firmly in the latter. Which particular bit did you disagree with. You saying Huddersfield didn't sit 10 men behind the ball for example,much like Morecambe did?
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 13, 2022 16:10:01 GMT
This afternoon he’s claimed at half time that “we battered them”, claimed that they “know they’re in a fortunate position and will just shut up shop now” while Huddersfield were literally in the process of scoring their third goal, and then said “the score should be the other way around”. Huddersfield “are like a lower league team playing a Premier League team the way they’re hanging on, it’s ridiculous” - with the score at 3-1. Him and Johnson then proceeded to claim that “you can’t blame the manager, you have to look at the players”. Now I haven’t seen the game today but it sure as shit doesn’t sound like the game people on here have watched or people on social media have watched. Does any of that sound like a fair appraisal of the game or is it more rose-tinted nonsense? How dare a legend of the club,commentating on a local radio station be a bit biased towards his team. Fuck me,get a grip.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 8, 2022 9:42:29 GMT
It's not a personal thing, absolutely not, and I'm certainly not claiming to know you better than you know yourself, that'd be daft of me. What I've said is based on what you've posted in the past, that's all. Anyone can follow whoever they like, I even said "He's a MON fan, there's nothing wrong with that, each to their own", but I personally can't imagine following an individual in a team sport. I can understand having a fondness for another team though. With me it's AFC Wimbledon and Aylesbury United thanks to those being my favourite Football Manager saves ever. I haven't said that because you're a MON fan (or, rowing back slightly, based on what you post, you come across as a MON fan with a recent fondness for Stoke) that your opinion is invalid either. I said "Does it make his opinions any less valid? Course not." which is in support of you. But because you've openly accepted that you have a slight bias then you have to accept that some people will raise more of an eyebrow. Having an opinion that's got an admitted bias is understandably going to be questioned more than the average opinion sadly. But it absolutely doesn't make it invalid because that's your opinion and you don't need me to tell you that's it as valid as anyone elses. In terms of how many people like a post, who honestly cares? It doesn't make an opinion anymore more valid, just like a post with zero likes makes it less valid. And for me, I haven't got anything to accept in terms of the manager because ultimately people can choose whether to support the bloke or not. I think for me I'd just hope the opinion is based on the facts and what's actually going on, rather than it being biased. But again, for me, it doesn't make that opinion any less valid and anyone should be comfortable enough to express them. If you did feel like I'd played in part in making it personal, and therefore it coming across as a personal attack on you or your opinions than I apologise, that wasn't my intention at all. I appreciate you posting back respectfully though, rather than mindlessly jumping in like another poster did. Does being a MON fan and Stoke fan have to be mutually exclusive. So you have to be one or the other but not both. So Barcelona fans which began supporting during the Messi era and continued supporting after, are Messi fans but not Barcelona fans? And Chelsea fans which began to follow Chelsea under Jose and continue after are Jose fans and not Chelsea fans? I admit there is a bias for the sake of being open. It's not too hard to create a second account here and post under a different allias if I wanted to be bias. But I don't. I attempt to be more balanced. I think consistently claiming someone isn't a Stoke fan and claiming you know better is personal. It's about me, of course it is. I take it as a compliment though. When your argument is reduced to claiming someone who is actively supporting the playing squad and manager isn't a fan then it must mean I'm making good arguments. And thus people want to get personal to discredit me. Just ignore the trolls.They're not happy unless they're moaning.
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