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Post by greyman on Aug 26, 2016 6:53:32 GMT
Typical football authority type decision - maximum show , minimum real impact. I doubt she ,or more importantly her agent, will give a monkeys in fact it probably increases her earnings potential by getting her name 'out there' ! Her name's already out there. But for all the wrong reasons. The authorities have just had enough of her and I'm surprised people haven't also raised her physical abuse of teenagers to go along with the sex tape and general gobshitery. She's an absolute arsehole and this has been coming. |
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Post by greyman on Aug 17, 2016 11:04:57 GMT
"Can the dead be defamed? In short, no. The dead cannot currently be defamed under English law. This is because defamation, whether it is libel or slander, is a personal action which cannot be assigned or brought on someone’s behalf. The exception to this rule is if the person subject to defamation is a minor, in which case a parent or guardian can bring the claim on their behalf. Where the deceased is defamed and a friend or relative is also identified in the statement, or the statement reflects upon their reputation, then there is the potential for that relative or friend to bring a claim for defamation." love Google... Bloody Wikipedia interlectewals |
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Post by greyman on Aug 12, 2016 10:56:37 GMT
Anybody remember Pulis going apeshit about a fan who'd been to a training session posting information about tactics? Apparently nobody else in football had worked it all out. Mind you there are still some West Brom fans who seem to think he plays full backs.
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Post by greyman on Jul 24, 2016 18:56:27 GMT
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Post by greyman on Jun 1, 2016 19:02:30 GMT
I'm still waiting for him to prove that the majority of English voters always vote Tory. He may be a while seeing as it's not true. How long should I give him? Probs waiting a lot longer now this thread has been moved to the 'nothing to do with football' section. Didn't the South African's during Apartheid argue that you should never mix sport and politics? Personally, I don't think life and politics should mix. He'll find it if he wants to because I quoted him  I know what he'll say and it won't have anything to do with proving that 27 percent of the electorate is a majority. |
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Post by greyman on Jun 1, 2016 16:13:13 GMT
Let's not forget that England has never failed to be majority Conservative. Labour governments are provided by Welsh and Scottish votes. The right-on members of this board might reflect that they are, and have always been, an English minority and do not speak for the majority. Not that that's going to stop them pretending otherwise..... Gooooaaaarrrrn Little Englander! Thank goodness for democracy hey? Simples, if we only ever listen to the majority's views, we'll always know what's right. I'm still waiting for him to prove that the majority of English voters always vote Tory. He may be a while seeing as it's not true. How long should I give him? |
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Post by greyman on May 31, 2016 21:15:55 GMT
The choice of political party is the main crime! Let's not forget that England has never failed to be majority Conservative. Labour governments are provided by Welsh and Scottish votes. The right-on members of this board might reflect that they are, and have always been, an English minority and do not speak for the majority. Not that that's going to stop them pretending otherwise..... You sure about that? I can prove you wrong right now if you like but I'd like to see your evidence first. |
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Post by greyman on May 31, 2016 19:41:23 GMT
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Post by greyman on May 31, 2016 19:34:15 GMT
I'm glad the England lads don't read this, with some of these comments. We have some exciting young players and will give it a go - no, we are probably not going to win it, but let's at least get behind them, eh? The Wilshere hatred defies belief - he is a total idiot off the field, but is he, when fit and on form, one of our best midfielders? Hell, yes. Give him a bloody chance. If he doesn't perform, fair enough, but some on here are too quick to write off players and/or make scape goats (whether for Stoke or England). Not really. He's an injury prone twat who is as likely to get sent off or injured as he is of playing three games during the tournament. Add in the fact he's clearly unfit and has barely featured all season and it's beyond belief he's going. I'm also baffled about why we only have three centre backs including one who can't get a start for Everton and also why he's taking Barkley for a position where we have plenty of cover rather than Townsend. Unless he thinks Vardy will play on the left, which wouldn't surprise me. |
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Post by greyman on May 24, 2016 5:14:56 GMT
Value for money - my foot! So if a team had a binary season and ended up let's say 11th on a very cheap squad, would you as a fan, feel you had good value for money? No thanks, I'd rather come 11th with Chelsea's squad and have recorded some smashing wins along the way. Good point. Rather than a simple measure of points per pound invested as a vaguely interesting and rough way of looking at just one thing we also need to add fans opinions in to the equation alongside the entire contents of the club's balance sheet over a period of years. So instead of a/b we get this:  |
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Post by greyman on May 23, 2016 15:44:01 GMT
There is no correlation between points gained return on investment as CL football for Leicester and relegation for Villa give a massive financial bonus, loss respectively. The argument is whether this VFM table is equivalent to a return on investment. Categorically, it is not! As for the correlation argument, the flat rate element of payments also undermines the direct correlation between points gained and financial gain. Clearly, eating all this whale meat in Oslo has affected your brain? Sorry mate, but I think you have lost the plot. If someone spent the weeks of research required to satisfy your purist view of how this table should be constructed, then I still doubt whether the outcome would be that much different. Just imagine what he's like at splitting a bill. |
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Post by greyman on May 23, 2016 11:13:30 GMT
No, wait. I forgot about the cost of pies. I think this should be right, now.  |
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Post by greyman on May 23, 2016 11:07:24 GMT
"there is not a correlation between points earned and league position". Try telling that to Villa and Leicester fans. There is no correlation between points gained return on investment as CL football for Leicester and relegation for Villa give a massive financial bonus, loss respectively. The argument is whether this VFM table is equivalent to a return on investment. Categorically, it is not! As for the correlation argument, the flat rate element of payments also undermines the direct correlation between points gained and financial gain. Clearly, eating all this whale meat in Oslo has affected your brain? Yes, he's also also forgetting the impact on player's salaries, the long term ramifications for fanbases spread over the lifetime of a stadium, overseas merchandise sales, compound interest on accrued debts, club shop stockholdings, share prices and the impact on the club's youth structure, sponsorship deals, naming rights and potentially academy status. So now I agree with you. Rather than using this table as a rough way of gauging how well clubs are investing their transfer budgets, the correct formula should be:  |
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Post by greyman on May 21, 2016 11:19:27 GMT
They're not measuring financial return though. They're measuring points. It's really not this fucking complicated
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Post by greyman on May 21, 2016 10:21:48 GMT
Err, yes it does. It's exactly that. As I said above, feel free to dream up your own equation and pull some figures out of your arse. It may well measure how well a manager does with his budget but a Return of Investment has to deduct cost from gain in monies. As relegation involves more cost than gain, Norwich are in negative territory. Do you think Uncle Peter has set MH a target to be in the bottom three because he wants to see a good return on investment? Somehow, I think not! Not it doesn't. RoI is just a simple ratio which businesses use alongside lots of other measures to gauge how they're doing. You don't need to make it any more complicated than that. |
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Post by greyman on May 21, 2016 10:18:49 GMT
Err, yes it does. It's exactly that. As I said above, feel free to dream up your own equation and pull some figures out of your arse. We'll agree to disagree , but less of the abuse I'd agree to disagree if it were a matter of opinion but it's not. |
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Post by greyman on May 21, 2016 9:21:24 GMT
I think everybody should ignore a very simple measure of ROI and instead endlessly quibble about their own equations and variables. That's the Oafcake way these days Here you go: VFM = (x/y-z+a)xd Where x = league points y = budget z = a number out of my arse a = a number out of somebody else's arse d = Pulis I think what it shows more than anything is what rancid seasons the traditional big teams have had. When van Gaal gets sacked later this weekend, it means that 7 of the bottom 8 have or will be having a managerial change. Yet the ‘specialist in failure’ at the Emirates unfathomably keeps pulling the wool over peoples eyes. Yep. That's the main thing I get from it too. Along with the shit returns for Villa and Newcastle |
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Post by greyman on May 21, 2016 9:20:11 GMT
FFS. All it shows is how well the clubs and managers have done with their budgets. FFS, that's the point , it doesnt Err, yes it does. It's exactly that. As I said above, feel free to dream up your own equation and pull some figures out of your arse. |
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Post by greyman on May 21, 2016 9:09:04 GMT
I wonder if Baggies fans think they're pushing for Europe in the VFM stakes I think everybody should ignore a very simple measure of ROI and instead endlessly quibble about their own equations and variables. That's the Oafcake way these days Here you go: VFM = (x/y-z+a)xd Where x = league points y = budget z = a number out of my arse a = a number out of somebody else's arse d = Pulis |
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Post by greyman on May 21, 2016 9:01:56 GMT
Not really. All that measures is how well clubs invested in players. What that suggests is that Norwich should have spent more because their manager did OK/all he could with his budget. It's a value for money index which doesn't take into account the millions Norwich have lost being relegated. Even teams that invest nothing would pick up a few points. This would put them first in the table! Obviously not when you look at the table. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand. All it measures is return on investment. |
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Post by greyman on May 21, 2016 9:00:10 GMT
Totally meaningless without any weighting applied for actually league position FFS. All it shows is how well the clubs and managers have done with their budgets. |
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Post by greyman on May 21, 2016 8:22:25 GMT
Stoke are just ahead of Norwich who are fifth. Look what good value Norwich are..they have been relegated. "Lies, damned lies and statistics!". Not really. All that measures is how well clubs invested in players. What that suggests is that Norwich should have spent more because their manager did OK/all he could with his budget. |
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Post by greyman on May 21, 2016 8:17:10 GMT
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Post by greyman on May 13, 2016 19:14:47 GMT
Another ground with a f**king moron bashing a big drum? It's just wrong. It's the same bunch of twats from England games. I hope Wednesday lose tonight just to keep those arseholes away from the Premier League |
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Post by greyman on May 13, 2016 9:29:51 GMT
Clickbait
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Post by greyman on Apr 27, 2016 10:09:30 GMT
It should also be remembered the vast majority of police who worked there on that day,in a different way, are also victims ofthe Hillsborough disaster. Looking at the footage of the day and seeing god knows how many police officers lining the width of the pitch to stop Liverpool fans attacking forest fans makes me sick to my stomach. How on earth could they stand there whilst witnessing the events that were unfolding? Regardless of orders, you'd break ranks and help. So many people and organisations are accountable. Hopefully, as many as is feasibly possible will be brought to book. Some of the stuff that's come out about the culture of SYP at that time explains the issue for serving officers. It wouldn't just have involved a dressing down if they had broke ranks |
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Post by greyman on Apr 27, 2016 7:26:31 GMT
If you are going to make a statement like this, then you have a responsibility to have researched it in a proper way. This quote sums up the Tories. Always ready to defend the establishment regardless and always assuming ordinary people are in the wrong and up to no good. Beggars belief that we now entrust them to manage our country. The interim Taylor Report DID mention a minority of drunken fans at the game. The issue with drunkenness was a deliberate red herring. Any event will include people who have had a drink but if there was a tragedy at Henley, Glyndebourne or Wimbledon, the reports would not focus on the amount of Pimms and Sancerre that the victims had consumed, the police would not have blamed them for their own deaths on that basis and you certainly wouldn't have had generations of policemen, politicians, newspapermen and cretins raising the fact every time the tragedy was mentioned. |
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Post by greyman on Apr 26, 2016 12:08:37 GMT
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Post by greyman on Apr 26, 2016 10:49:15 GMT
Though it cannot undo the harm done, justice has finally been done. As others have said, those on here and elsewhere who spouted their ridiculous bile should be ashamed and stand thoroughly corrected. I also agree with ukcstokie that the conditions that allowed the Hillsborough tragedy to happen were due in part to the contempt shown to the common football fan by politicians and the media. There are very important lessons to be learned to this very day about the dangers and moral repugnance of demonising groups of people, the vast majority of whom are innocent. It's not done yet. Prosecutions of individuals should now follow. |
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Post by greyman on Apr 26, 2016 10:36:55 GMT
Anyone who attended games in those days knows the utter contempt the police had for supporters. Justice at last for the victims. Let's hope Duckinfield and his cronies are charged. It's not just those in charge of the actual match though is it? The police behaved that day because they were allowed and encouraged to treat football fans with utter contempt. Who created that atmosphere? The media, the politicians and those fans who had turned the football into a battle ground over many years. Also bear in mind that they continued their attempted cover up at this inquest. |
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