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Post by PotterLog on May 17, 2024 18:50:10 GMT
Ha, so it's literally just bunging rails in over the existing seats?? Didn't realise it was as simple as that, I thought it would be specially designed hybrid seating for the space. Capacity will be the same then... Even more mental it's taken so long to implement. Alot of grounds had started implementing them towards the end of last season. Majority of Premier League Grounds had installed them into the away sections, few Champo clubs as well. Cardiff may have had there's a season or so now Yeah I was in the away section at Stamford Bridge for a game at the end of last year.. I thought it was specially-installed rail seating but I may be wrong. I didn't realise you could just whack some railings over existing seats and you're good to go, it's a farcically simple operation
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Post by PotterLog on May 17, 2024 15:54:40 GMT
Ha, so it's literally just bunging rails in over the existing seats?? Didn't realise it was as simple as that, I thought it would be specially designed hybrid seating for the space. Capacity will be the same then... Even more mental it's taken so long to implement.
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Post by PotterLog on May 17, 2024 3:18:38 GMT
I suppose if they weren’t so anal about the offsides it might work better. Instead of judging for a few minutes, just to make sure the players big toe was fully onside, just have it where it has to be clearly offside, this would surely allow checks to be done during celebrations. It would be rather crappy at times due to mentals not being as good but surely it would run a bit smoother and clear it up better. Apologies if somebody has already said this or if there is a hole in this idea, just feel it would help to run smoother Good point. An inch or two "offside" would have no impact on the run of play......so, don't take it down to the millimeter and obsessive technicalities. Perhaps go with a small allowable distance (a foot??). But don't do that if it then becomes another delay to determine if it was a millimeter under of over a foot. So how would you do it then? The line has to be actually drawn somewhere and there’s really no good answer to this - the suggestion of only pulling it back if it’s “clear” would result in a thousand times more outrage and controversy, don’t people realise this? What constitutes (and who decides what constitutes) a “clear” offside? The very first tight offside call you’d have three blokes in the VAR room deciding not to proceed with a review because it wasn’t “clear” enough, while thousands or millions of viewers and pundits around the world get incandescent with rage because to them it “clearly” was. And we’re all back at the mercy of a couple of officials’ subjective evaluation. Better to do away with it completely. I’m not a huge fan but if it’s going to be used for offsides then a definite line which removes the subjectivity as much as possible simply has to be drawn, there’s no way around it.
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Post by PotterLog on May 16, 2024 22:37:16 GMT
I'm just struggling to believe we're the only club in the league to have an incident on the scale of the Plymouth one at a rate of once per year. I'm happy to be proved wrong, but if somebody said 'the average club has three minor kerfuffles on the pitch per season', I would absolutely believe them. Additionally, I don't really see how we can be repeat offenders with cases cited going back to 2018. Of all of the playing and coaching staff, I think only Tyrese Campbell was at the club back then. Even the ref told the panel it was a minor incident. They described Hoever running in as "mindless aggression". What kind of phrase is that? Who defines mindless aggression, and how can they possibly know what was going on in Hoever's mind? It's the kind of thing someone like me would post in the matchday thread after drinking 6 bottles of Pedigree, not what you'd expect from a barrister charged with writing an official report on the incident. Weird. Yeah that's another good example to go with "utterly dreadful". It's one thing to say "excessive" or "unwarranted" aggression, but "mindless" is a subjective value judgement stated in a frankly quite derogatory way. Surely shouldn't have any place in a formal report like that. If nothing else it really is terribly written.
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Post by PotterLog on May 16, 2024 22:27:24 GMT
What an absolute bullshitter. Every word of that is designed to justify his position and cultivate his own image.. "I only got here in July"... "People don't see what goes on behind the scenes" Just like Tricky, about whom we were also warned by Norwich fans. That's one thing SJW has going for him, he doesn't have any former clubs' fans lining up to slag him off on Twitter when he gets a new job
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Post by PotterLog on May 16, 2024 19:46:07 GMT
Christ imagine travelling up from Norfolk on a Thursday night for this. Poor bastards
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Post by PotterLog on May 16, 2024 19:10:02 GMT
Leeds 1 Narridge 0, direct free kick with basically no wall
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Post by PotterLog on May 16, 2024 17:43:15 GMT
Brilliant signing. He kept Rotherham up almost single handed last season. Imagine if he’d used both!
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Post by PotterLog on May 16, 2024 17:32:14 GMT
On what planet has our conduct been "utterly dreadful" in recent months/years? The Coates family should pay the fine in coppers. Fuck 'em...... it context 5 offences , six including this one of the same charge since 2018 ..not controlling your players at our level is truly frowned upon at professional , Championship / Premiership level ..it’s a charge of non league / Sunday league level , most senior clubs would be privately extremely embarrassed ( or annoyed ) with one or two maximum such charges in that time , never mind 6 Not something I’d noticed but if true it looks like another thing to chalk up to the “club culture” column then. Is it changing…..?
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Post by PotterLog on May 16, 2024 16:21:55 GMT
That is quite enlightening. Some of the language seems strangely informal - talking about our "utterly dreadful record" and Hoever's actions being "totally not necessary". It also raised an eyebrow that in the commission's judgement Stoke had a responsibility to implement special trouble-avoiding measures purely for the fact that their head coach elected to move from them to us not long ago. Doesn't seem a very fair expectation. I've never had the impression we're particularly bad with discipline like this, surprises me we're apparently repeat offenders...
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Post by PotterLog on May 16, 2024 13:59:41 GMT
and those fat todgers who squeeze into lycra and pretend they are in the tour de twat, in reality they look like diaphanous sausages Never heard of diaphanous before, had to look it up 🙂 Great word, has to be an Oatcake debut surely?
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Post by PotterLog on May 15, 2024 19:49:50 GMT
VAR is here to stay. Zero chance this will pass. We need to find a way to work with it
Mind you I said that about the EU vote 😂😄
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Post by PotterLog on May 15, 2024 18:49:19 GMT
Bristol is falling well short of its potential. Either club Merge them I say. Nah I like a pair of Bristols
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Post by PotterLog on May 15, 2024 15:29:26 GMT
"When did the rot set in" indeed
At least call the thread HEY LOOK EVERYONE AREN'T I EDGY
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Post by PotterLog on May 15, 2024 14:50:46 GMT
Wimmer cost about £17 million pounds and played the same number of games Hughes certainly had an eye for a good player didn't he 17 million games is pretty good tho
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Post by PotterLog on May 15, 2024 14:45:01 GMT
Load of bollocks! He gave us three of the best seasons we have ever had at the club. Won nothing. Spent a fortune on rubbish players. Lost interest in SCFC and got sacked when we were in the relegation zone. I'd hate to see the three worse seasons!
Never a good fit IMHO.
"Won nothing"
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Post by PotterLog on May 15, 2024 12:01:34 GMT
Yeah it was rotten watching the best Stoke team in fifty years put the biggest clubs in England to the sword.
Other rot-setting-in moments include:
Bloody Macari, I knew things were going downhill when I found out we'd have to face Stockport at Wembley That crap 0-0 at home against Leicester under Pulis around 2008, that was a low point Not turning up against Bolton in the FA Cup semi, they battered us and how we went through I'll never know, talk about fluking it.
Plenty rot to talk about in our cursed history
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 23:47:16 GMT
march4 will be along soon enough to tell us football is cyclical and POMO will be back en vogue before you know it 😉
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 19:01:55 GMT
What's that meant to show? You're linking to a table where every top 6 team conceded fewer than Ipswich this season The link hasn’t worked right for me it was meant to show the 18/19 season when Norwich won the league and Villa went up in the play offs. Top teams conceded a lot of goals. They’re by no means outliers many Stoke fans just live in the past where keeping it tight is the be all and end all, they’re so wrong. Mate you don't prove a point by going to find the most extreme other season in recent years where a team conceded more. In the last 30 years only one auto promotion team has conceded more than Ipswich this season (Norwich in 2011). They are a full 10 goals over the top 6 average, fifteen over the top two. They conceded an exceptionally high number of goals for a team in their position, so yes, they are outliers.
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 18:16:21 GMT
What's that meant to show? You're linking to a table where every top 6 team conceded fewer than Ipswich this season
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 17:32:25 GMT
I mean there's plenty blame to go round but Lambert shoulders more than his fair share. Taking context and everything into account I think him, Kamara and Jones are the three worst we've had. Brian Little and Alan Ball Indeed. Other sub-standard managers are available
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 16:46:21 GMT
Well of course he did, that's why he got the sack. Big deal. Lambert came in with one job, to make us a tiny bit better and scrape enough points to keep our head above the water. He failed dismally. People going on about "only" four points... we weren't even close to staying up. If we exclude the Swansea last-day dead rubber, Lambert's fourteen meaningful games in charge were by far our worst run of form *that* season. In a season that was already absolute torture, he made us worse. Even with the Swansea game Leslie generally outperformed him form-wise by winning double the number of games. Nice guy but right up there with the most disastrous managers ever to darken our doorstep, the mind just boggles that he gets defended on here. of course it’s a big deal like when neil left us a squad that nearly got relegated from the championship. Now I wasn’t best happy when we appointed lambert but like I said ultimately it wasn’t his fault it was the club’s fault and I guess lambert told butland to throw the ball in his own net against Leicester and for Adam missing that pen against Brighton. Unlucky to concede a late goal against West Ham. In answer to your last paragraph he might scrape into the top 5 or 6 woohoo I mean there's plenty blame to go round but Lambert shoulders more than his fair share. Taking context and everything into account I think him, Kamara and Jones are the three worst we've had.
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 16:41:32 GMT
Who conceded the second-most goals ever for a promoted team We also conceded less than Norwich and not that many more than Southampton. We got promoted to the premier league with the joint lowest points for automatic promotion bus still a lot of our dopey fans think it’s THE blueprint for success at this level. You really couldn’t make it up how obsessed many of our fans are with the defensive side of the game. They all happen to be big outliers though. All those three teams conceded way more than even playoff teams usually do.
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 16:32:45 GMT
Signed a one year contract extension. Given the way Stoke's defence performed last season I wouldn't resign any of them. I hope that this isn't a sign of things to come.
We conceded 3 more than Ipswich Who conceded the second-most goals ever for a promoted team
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 15:55:43 GMT
I’ve said it before it wasn’t his fault. Hughes left us with a disorganised squad Well of course he did, that's why he got the sack. Big deal. Lambert came in with one job, to make us a tiny bit better and scrape enough points to keep our head above the water. He failed dismally. People going on about "only" four points... we weren't even close to staying up. If we exclude the Swansea last-day dead rubber, Lambert's fourteen meaningful games in charge were by far our worst run of form *that* season. In a season that was already absolute torture, he made us worse. Even with the Swansea game Leslie generally outperformed him form-wise by winning double the number of games. Nice guy but right up there with the most disastrous managers ever to darken our doorstep, the mind just boggles that he gets defended on here.
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 15:11:41 GMT
We may as well have kept Hughes. I never really 'got' the appointment, and I don't think Lambert was on anyone's radar at the time, when we were wondering who would be coming in. I found the decision to entrust him with our PL status, but to then not trust him in the Championship, a little bizarre, and who knows, if we'd given him that first season back down, we'd perhaps be in a better place now? It was a bottom-of-the-barrel appointment made in sheer panic after failing to get QSF, MON and Rowett(!) and not knowing where the F to turn
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 15:08:57 GMT
We had a static caravan at the time in Brean Sands so used that as a base. Got back there and two of us went out for more beers still in our Stoke tops. The place was rammed with pissed up Brummies there in readiness for their own play off game the next day. They treated us like returning heroes for breaking the South dressing room curse, you'd have thought we'd actually played 😂 In the morning I went for a walk around the site and saw someone sat outside a tent reading a newspaper that looked the absolute spit of James O'Connor! Can't for the life of me see a professional footballer sleeping in a tent after a play off final but I wish I'd confirmed it by talking to whoever it was 🤦😄 I remember it being in the media after the weekend that it was Birmingham that had broken the curse. Barstads
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2024 14:42:23 GMT
A case of great guy...wrong appointment. I like how he doesn't put anyone down, make excuses or pin blame on others. I really wanted him to succeed. Very complimentary about the club and the senior pros. Impossible to prove but reckon we would have spent more wisely and set up a far better first season and foundation in the Championship had he stayed. I'd give that about the same chance as us staying up if we'd kept Hughes and not appointed Lambert.
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Post by PotterLog on May 13, 2024 22:25:36 GMT
You do wonder why stoke / vale have never really made inroads into the city's Asian community in terms of expanding the fan base. Ive been down this route before it didnt go well.The replies were "well I dont wonder" "why do we need asian supporters " etc etc.It was on the everything else page though It shouldnt be a sensitive topic but it is.With an awful lot of anti immigration feelings around our city I dont suppose they think they would be welcome.Look at other areas with a large asain community and their fan bases are distinctively more diverse than ours especially the southern teams. I dont think we have any minorites whatsoever on the Oatcake, Caribbean,Asian,African etc which is just mental. How on earth would you know that
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Post by PotterLog on May 13, 2024 20:54:22 GMT
It’s been a funny old game this one. Classic end of season fayre And then some, bloody ell
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