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Post by wazbagsbro on Apr 21, 2024 17:30:48 GMT
No longer free flowing, ecstasy when a team scores, everyone hesitates to see if the scorer, or his teammates are literally an inch offside. I know this has been done to death but when are supporters going to make a stand and take our game back before it’s ruined completely. Who actually benefits from VAR? The top six who attack the most, score the most, . If someone from 80s woke up from a coma to watch a game today they would start following rugby
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Post by innocentbystander on Apr 21, 2024 17:33:50 GMT
Get rid of VAR
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Post by GrahamHyde on Apr 21, 2024 17:34:33 GMT
Yeah needs fucking off.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 17:35:46 GMT
How does VAR disproportionately benefit an attacking team?
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Post by sealion100 on Apr 21, 2024 17:37:37 GMT
Yeah JUST watched the DEATH of football….
Instead of talking about a famous Coventry win …. VAR !!!!
United actually looked embarrassed at the end
Sad day
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 21, 2024 17:40:17 GMT
... right decision though, wasn't it? I'm not a fan of it generally but for offsides I think it's necessary.
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Post by Veritas on Apr 21, 2024 17:42:52 GMT
... right decision though, wasn't it? I'm not a fan of it generally but for offsides I think it's necessary. Yes the real howlers come when human interpretation gets involved |
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Post by banksy1art on Apr 21, 2024 17:43:40 GMT
If it’s not a clear offside by eye then the onfield decision should stick, scrap the line drawing. But then there’s the argument of what is clear? Just a slippery slope and there is no true answer
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 21, 2024 17:44:49 GMT
The wrong decision was the penalty.
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Post by lordb on Apr 21, 2024 17:45:58 GMT
The wrong decision was the penalty. Just don't care Rather have all the wrong decisions and no VAR |
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Post by sevvy on Apr 21, 2024 17:51:41 GMT
I've said it before, but the offside law needs to be changed so that if any part of you, that can score/play on legally, is onside then you are onside.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Apr 21, 2024 17:57:32 GMT
If it’s not a clear offside by eye then the onfield decision should stick, scrap the line drawing. But then there’s the argument of what is clear? Just a slippery slope and there is no true answer Literally NO person in the country thought that goal was not a goal. Only after a pathetic, pedantic scientific review with dodgy lines was it disallowed. Any non-VAR match that is a goal, every single time. The only way that goal could have been disallowed was by VAR because it was a massively imperceptible offside that wasn’t really offside! |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 21, 2024 17:58:15 GMT
I hate VAR - I think it’s shit and ruins the game. But you can’t bemoan it making the right decision just because it goes against the team you wanted to win 😁
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Apr 21, 2024 18:00:49 GMT
Probably here to stay, but what I find unfair is that when a non prem side are hosting there in no VAR in the cup, I get that, so what should happen in NO VAR in cup comps, even if it's an all Prem tie.
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Post by Davef on Apr 21, 2024 18:01:20 GMT
One of the, if not THE, greatest moments in the history of the FA Cup ruined because officials are now actively looking to disallow goals. The human element of the game has been removed and it's little more than a computer game now.
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Post by Miles Offside on Apr 21, 2024 18:03:55 GMT
VAR is just an attempt to bring some objectivity and certainty to marginal calls. Should be time limited to 30 seconds
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 18:06:13 GMT
If it’s not a clear offside by eye then the onfield decision should stick, scrap the line drawing. But then there’s the argument of what is clear? Just a slippery slope and there is no true answer Literally NO person in the country thought that goal was not a goal. Only after a pathetic, pedantic scientific review with dodgy lines was it disallowed. Any non-VAR match that is a goal, every single time. The only way that goal could have been disallowed was by VAR because it was a massively imperceptible offside that wasn’t really offside! He looked well offside in real time because he was ahead of the two players nearest him. I actually think the liner may have flagged in the absence of VAR anyway |
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Post by sealion100 on Apr 21, 2024 18:11:00 GMT
Personally I would never Pay to watch a Stoke game that included VAR ….. I mean , we get shafted weekly without it ….. can’t imagine what the cheating bastards would do to a Stoke fixture with it !!!! Yesterday was bad enough
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Apr 21, 2024 18:15:55 GMT
Literally NO person in the country thought that goal was not a goal. Only after a pathetic, pedantic scientific review with dodgy lines was it disallowed. Any non-VAR match that is a goal, every single time. The only way that goal could have been disallowed was by VAR because it was a massively imperceptible offside that wasn’t really offside! He looked well offside in real time because he was ahead of the two players nearest him. I actually think the liner may have flagged in the absence of VAR anyway But obviously you were aware of Wan-Bissaka being level with him? |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 21, 2024 18:16:19 GMT
Literally NO person in the country thought that goal was not a goal. Only after a pathetic, pedantic scientific review with dodgy lines was it disallowed. Any non-VAR match that is a goal, every single time. The only way that goal could have been disallowed was by VAR because it was a massively imperceptible offside that wasn’t really offside! He looked well offside in real time because he was ahead of the two players nearest him. I actually think the liner may have flagged in the absence of VAR anyway I think in our league the flag goes up. Linesemen know they don't have to make decisions when VAR is there. |
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Post by stokeoptimist on Apr 21, 2024 18:17:28 GMT
VAR is just an attempt to bring some objectivity and certainty to marginal calls. Should be time limited to 30 seconds Objectivity and Certainty? By what measure, whos doing the measuring? The very people that crave an all Manchester Final. Yeah right! |
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 18:18:04 GMT
He looked well offside in real time because he was ahead of the two players nearest him. I actually think the liner may have flagged in the absence of VAR anyway But obviously you were aware of Wan-Bissaka being level with him? He just looked offside, I’m just saying without VAR it’s possible the move doesn’t even develop for the reasons dirtygary’s just stated above |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 21, 2024 18:19:57 GMT
The wrong decision was the penalty. Just don't care Rather have all the wrong decisions and no VAR Totally agree |
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Post by uttoxeterpotter on Apr 21, 2024 18:22:04 GMT
I've always said that in cup competitions if VAR can't be used in all cup ties then it shouldn't be used at all.
If that incident happened in an earlier round at the CBS Arena it would stand. Shouldn't have different rules in the same competition depending on the venue.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 21, 2024 18:23:38 GMT
Absolutely dreading promotion next season😉
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 21, 2024 18:46:36 GMT
No longer free flowing, ecstasy when a team scores, everyone hesitates to see if the scorer, or his teammates are literally an inch offside. I know this has been done to death but when are supporters going to make a stand and take our game back before it’s ruined completely. Who actually benefits from VAR? The top six who attack the most, score the most, . If someone from 80s woke up from a coma to watch a game today they would start following rugby Agreement. Today’s games prime examples. Everton v Forest and Coventry v Man Utd 1. Possibly a decade or more ago forwards were given the “benefit of the doubt” on close calls to add too entertainment. Now they’re drawing lines across the pitch to see if someone’s 1/2 a foot is offside. 2. Handball used to be intentional movement of the arm. What’s an unnatural movement of the arm when jumping and someone from 2yrd’s plays the ball against an arm and a penalty is awarded? We now have defenders trying to defend with their arms behind their backs. Natural or unnatural? Straight jackets to be worn by all players would be preferable!!! 3. After 5 minutes of checking video evidence people can’t make a decision and send the referee (who may have made an obvious error) over to a pitch side monitor to make their decision for them……..what’s that all about. If someone can educate me please do because I think VAR has/is spoiling the game |
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Apr 21, 2024 18:56:38 GMT
... right decision though, wasn't it? I'm not a fan of it generally but for offsides I think it's necessary. How are we sure? Because a bloke in a booth miles away decided the exact millisecond that he knows the ball left the players foot. Then they draw lines off that and again a wafer thin differential decides he's definitely offside. It's a farce to be honest. Why is the world's most popular sport trying to prevent as many goals as possible? Perverse. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 21, 2024 19:03:55 GMT
For me it should be reserved for “serious” foul play and diving. Linesman are really good these days, way better than they were and their judgement should be trusted. Offsides are the last thing it should be used for, along with dubious penalties, handballs etc
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Post by peepin on Apr 21, 2024 19:04:44 GMT
The wrong decision was the penalty. Just don't care Rather have all the wrong decisions and no VAR Not sure about this my friend, there have been a few times where I wouldn’t mind seeing the right decision at the bet365. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 21, 2024 19:06:34 GMT
For me it should be reserved for “serious” foul play and diving. Linesman are really good these days, way better than they were and their judgement should be trusted. Offsides are the last thing it should be used for, along with dubious penalties, handballs etc Yes. And then if there is a really obvious offside balls up without having to get the lines out, they can intervene. |
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