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Post by theonlooker on May 16, 2024 16:02:53 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 16, 2024 16:08:12 GMT
Well done FA. Have some of our loose change. |
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Post by TheMmaeestro on May 16, 2024 16:11:38 GMT
Anything to take the attention away from the standard of their officials.
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Post by Northy on May 16, 2024 16:20:16 GMT
It's a good job Pearson has been out injured !
rather there is the utterly dreadful record that SCFC have for offences
of this type, including the previous breach this season. The fact that we have the ability
to sanction as high as a fine of £100,00 speaks for itself. The measures that SCFC have
put in place to avoid their players behaving in such a way, which Mr Laird advances in his
mitigation, are clearly not working. Incidents of this type do not, in our judgment, reflect
well on the image of the club or the game. When they are committed by repeat offenders,
such as SCFC, that is an even worse reflection for all concerned.
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Post by PotterLog on May 16, 2024 16:21:55 GMT
That is quite enlightening. Some of the language seems strangely informal - talking about our "utterly dreadful record" and Hoever's actions being "totally not necessary". It also raised an eyebrow that in the commission's judgement Stoke had a responsibility to implement special trouble-avoiding measures purely for the fact that their head coach elected to move from them to us not long ago. Doesn't seem a very fair expectation. I've never had the impression we're particularly bad with discipline like this, surprises me we're apparently repeat offenders... |
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Post by flea79 on May 16, 2024 16:22:20 GMT
pisser, for us its nothing
for the carrot crunchers that means no new signings next season
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Post by wuzza on May 16, 2024 16:30:08 GMT
Surprises me that we’ve had enough ‘competitive spirit’ in the past 5 years to come on to FA”s radar that many times.
Much ado about nothing but it keeps some people in a job.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 16, 2024 16:39:52 GMT
Great. Punish bad behavior. Now please go after the diving that makes a mockery of the sport. Wait, you don’t want to? Please do fuck off then.
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Post by Scouse on May 16, 2024 16:58:35 GMT
The problem here is two fold
1) The incident involved EFL clubs .. and reflected in the fine , ( most offences are by ‘non league clubs’
2 ) Our previous poor record of facing similar charges in preceding seasons reflected in the size of of fine
The u17s were also fined , for an incident in their game v Wolves
You can laugh the charge / fine off if you want , ..or as I do , see it as a stain on our club and an indicator that our internal and on the field discipline needs improving
The club , fans , players blaming all our ills on others rather than looking inward for answers ..a constant changing manager , coaches and weak leadership and captaining on the pitch I suggest is at the core of the issue ..hopefully as he’s specifically named PFA rules allowed, Hoover to receive an individual club fine
Edit Grumpy head now removed
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 16, 2024 17:01:44 GMT
On what planet has our conduct been "utterly dreadful" in recent months/years?
The Coates family should pay the fine in coppers. Fuck 'em......
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Post by jay1610 on May 16, 2024 17:10:18 GMT
Best £24,000 we spent all season.
That incident fired the players and crowd up even more.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 16, 2024 17:14:10 GMT
That is quite enlightening. Some of the language seems strangely informal - talking about our "utterly dreadful record" and Hoever's actions being "totally not necessary". It also raised an eyebrow that in the commission's judgement Stoke had a responsibility to implement special trouble-avoiding measures purely for the fact that their head coach elected to move from them to us not long ago. Doesn't seem a very fair expectation. I've never had the impression we're particularly bad with discipline like this, surprises me we're apparently repeat offenders... Was about to post similar. It doesn't exactly read as a dispassionate summary. |
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Post by Scouse on May 16, 2024 17:19:18 GMT
On what planet has our conduct been "utterly dreadful" in recent months/years? The Coates family should pay the fine in coppers. Fuck 'em...... it context 5 offences , six including this one of the same charge since 2018 ..not controlling your players at our level is truly frowned upon at professional , Championship / Premiership level ..it’s a charge of non league / Sunday league level , most senior clubs would be privately extremely embarrassed ( or annoyed ) with one or two maximum such charges in that time , never mind 6 |
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Post by onionman on May 16, 2024 17:25:04 GMT
This is what it must feel like when you get arrested for stealing a Mars bar and turn up at court and the magistrate is Martin Keown.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 16, 2024 17:25:15 GMT
On what planet has our conduct been "utterly dreadful" in recent months/years? The Coates family should pay the fine in coppers. Fuck 'em...... it context 5 offences , six including this one of the same charge since 2018 ..not controlling your players at our level is truly frowned upon at professional , Championship / Premiership level ..it’s a charge of non league / Sunday league level , most senior clubs would be privately extremely embarrassed ( or annoyed ) with one or two maximum such charges in that time , never mind 6 The Plymouth incident was an absolute nothing incident though, I don't even recall what the others were and I can't navigate that ridiculous Sentinel website to find out...... |
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Post by theonlooker on May 16, 2024 17:26:44 GMT
I left my own personal feelings out of the original post to allow for discussion but the tone and language used in that report is absolutely disgraceful.
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Post by PotterLog on May 16, 2024 17:32:14 GMT
On what planet has our conduct been "utterly dreadful" in recent months/years? The Coates family should pay the fine in coppers. Fuck 'em...... it context 5 offences , six including this one of the same charge since 2018 ..not controlling your players at our level is truly frowned upon at professional , Championship / Premiership level ..it’s a charge of non league / Sunday league level , most senior clubs would be privately extremely embarrassed ( or annoyed ) with one or two maximum such charges in that time , never mind 6 Not something I’d noticed but if true it looks like another thing to chalk up to the “club culture” column then. Is it changing…..? |
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Post by xchpotter on May 16, 2024 17:33:21 GMT
I’d be putting a copy of that on the dressing room wall and highlighting key points. It’s obvious the FA and officials hate us….good, it helps fire the team and who gives a shit anymore about corrupt, incompetent farts anyway. Screw the FA.
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Post by Scouse on May 16, 2024 17:33:32 GMT
it context 5 offences , six including this one of the same charge since 2018 ..not controlling your players at our level is truly frowned upon at professional , Championship / Premiership level ..it’s a charge of non league / Sunday league level , most senior clubs would be privately extremely embarrassed ( or annoyed ) with one or two maximum such charges in that time , never mind 6 The Plymouth incident was an absolute nothing incident though, I don't even recall what the others were and I can't navigate that ridiculous Sentinel website to find out...... Unfortunately given the numbers booked at the time and involved in general and Hoover running half the length to get involved of the pitch sadly showed it wasn’t .. pre match comments by Plymouth as it being the turning point of the game didn’t help , but the main problem is once reported unlike in times gone by you’d rely on the refs report ..these days tv camera evidence is used to count the players and actions ..the. Fact that it was mostly just pushing and shoving just adds to the embarrassment |
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Post by Olgrligm on May 16, 2024 17:34:42 GMT
On what planet has our conduct been "utterly dreadful" in recent months/years? The Coates family should pay the fine in coppers. Fuck 'em...... it context 5 offences , six including this one of the same charge since 2018 ..not controlling your players at our level is truly frowned upon at professional , Championship / Premiership level ..it’s a charge of non league / Sunday league level , most senior clubs would be privately extremely embarrassed ( or annoyed ) with one or two maximum such charges in that time , never mind 6 So one fight per year, the only one of which that was really notable was that Barnsley game? Is it really true that other clubs in our league aren't involved in one incident of handbags like the Plymouth game per year? |
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Post by xchpotter on May 16, 2024 17:34:49 GMT
I left my own personal feelings out of the original post to allow for discussion but the tone and language used in that report is absolutely disgraceful. Indeed. Looks like we were judged with a prejudiced view from the onset. Arses. |
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Post by Rick Grimes on May 16, 2024 17:37:14 GMT
I’ve seen way worse over the years, that report and the fine is completely ridiculous.
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Post by onionman on May 16, 2024 17:43:44 GMT
The fine is irrelevant to the Coates family, but what the hell is this:
"It is argued, in mitigation, that the Commission should have regard to both the significance of the match (both clubs being in a relegation battle) and the recent history between the clubs (principally due to the recent move to SCFC from PAFC of the Head Coach, Mr Schumacher). In our judgment, neither of these points provide any mitigation, indeed. In truth, they aggravate SCFC's position. It was all the more important, given
the fact that SCFC were in a relegation battle, for players to behave themselves. Similarly, given the knowledge of the history between the clubs, there was every reason for SCFC to take even more care to ensure that unsavoury incidents did not occur and we were not presented with any evidence to support any measures that SCFC had proposed to mitigate such."
Just what the hell is that?! Did this weirdo Simon Parry really expect the Stoke manager to tell his players, "Look lads, I know this is a big game, but please let's avoid getting stuck in today!"
This clown is genuinely saying that handbags in a relegation clash is a more serious offence than handbags in a mid-table dead rubber.
That is actually what he's saying. It's absolutely fucking scandalous.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on May 16, 2024 17:56:42 GMT
Simon Parry is a barrister apparently.
I'd be frightened if that twat was representing me because some of the language and statements made are a disgrace and completely unprofessional.
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Post by theonlooker on May 16, 2024 18:01:04 GMT
Simon Parry is a barrister apparently. I'd be frightened if that twat was representing me because some of the language and statements made are a disgrace and completely unprofessional. He's also an ex referee with the Cheshire FA. I wonder who he supports? |
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Post by onionman on May 16, 2024 18:04:47 GMT
Simon Parry is a barrister apparently. I'd be frightened if that twat was representing me because some of the language and statements made are a disgrace and completely unprofessional. He's also an ex referee with the Cheshire FA. I wonder who he supports? Shrewsbury |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 16, 2024 18:10:19 GMT
24k for absolute handbags that was forgotten by full-time. The mind boggles
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 16, 2024 18:15:00 GMT
Love to see what the Cunt would write if he actually saw a proper fight.
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Post by senojbor on May 16, 2024 18:29:10 GMT
it context 5 offences , six including this one of the same charge since 2018 ..not controlling your players at our level is truly frowned upon at professional , Championship / Premiership level ..it’s a charge of non league / Sunday league level , most senior clubs would be privately extremely embarrassed ( or annoyed ) with one or two maximum such charges in that time , never mind 6 The Plymouth incident was an absolute nothing incident though, I don't even recall what the others were and I can't navigate that ridiculous Sentinel website to find out...... Please tell me what incident? I was at the game and can't remember it? |
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Post by dirtclod on May 16, 2024 18:32:50 GMT
That is absolutely a terribly-written report, full of opinion.
I could write something more concise/clear/objective than that, even when drunk.
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