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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 4, 2019 22:59:04 GMT
I have no idea why Delap is putting himself through this. Money I suppose, though could he not have refused to take charge or something? He's tarnishing his golden reputation by being associated with the disaster we have become, instead of the fantastic era he was actually part of. Is he bollocks. Anyone holding him accountable for this needs to give their heads a wobble. No, that's not what I meant. It isn't about holding him accountable, it's about him just being tarnished by the putrid stench that hangs around our club. Why does he even want to be associated with it?
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 4, 2019 22:56:39 GMT
I have no idea why Delap is putting himself through this. Money I suppose, though could he not have refused to take charge or something?
He's tarnishing his golden reputation by being associated with the disaster we have become, instead of the fantastic era he was actually part of.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 4, 2019 22:00:53 GMT
The ones who care have no talent, and the ones with talent don't care. Holocaust season revisited. The holocaust season was not as bad as this.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 4, 2019 19:06:22 GMT
Butland in goal = 1 goal head start for the opposition. <sigh>
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 2, 2019 22:40:58 GMT
If this guy could finish .. or even pass to any of his 3 or 4 unmarked team mates we would still be in the prem. Hes one of the smartest players I've ever seen. Got himself into the best positions to score all the time. Made the right runs. He just couldn't finish. One of the worst I've ever seen. He'd had been playing for a top 6 club if he could. It's certainly true that he had a unique cow's arse/banjo style of finishing, but even that would be better than what he currently have, which even defies humorous remarks.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 2, 2019 22:36:19 GMT
Waddo, but he's ancient history now. Tone! King Tone! The Great Tone!
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 2, 2019 22:32:42 GMT
Klopp is brilliant, the game needs more like him and fewer dull, boring yes men.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 2, 2019 22:31:00 GMT
Is it too late to get Jones back? Wut? Having no manager is better than having Jones.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 2, 2019 13:26:44 GMT
He couldn’t possibly be any worse than the current shower.
Plus we are not in the Premier League any more.
I would like to see him back in the squad.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 2, 2019 13:22:29 GMT
Decent manager at another club works wonders on a low budget so we poach him.
That’s never gone wrong before.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 2, 2019 13:19:35 GMT
Good riddance.
It was clear he wasn’t up to the job last season but a multitude of excuses were made by fans.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 2, 2019 13:10:36 GMT
How many clubs do we want to piss off ha. Fair play if so. Great appointment. He’s done wonders with a complete bang average team there. That’s great but if he comes here he needs to work wonders with a completely shit squad.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 1, 2019 20:55:43 GMT
The biggest worry for us and any manager coming in is that no matter what he tried nothing seemed to worked. Different systems, different formations, different players all failed. Sometimes he gave the fans what they wanted and that failed too. It's deep rooted and it's with the owners. There isn't a manager who can help us unfortunately. Yes there is.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 1, 2019 20:52:55 GMT
On paper he is down there with the worst of them. "On paper" is what gets you relegated.
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 1, 2019 20:52:04 GMT
Lets face it he was one of the worst managers in our history, but the decisions he has made with the players he has bought into the club is going to effect us and the next manager for the next couple of years at least.I cannot imagine clubs will be after many of his players who will be decent money with a fair bit of time left on their contracts.For me if the next guy in can keep us up and stop us being the laughing stock we have become that would be a fantastic start. He has simply piled more shit onto the huge pile of shit left by Hughes and Rowett, the man has been an unmitigated disaster for us an absolute fraud yet we still had some posters on here backing him up even tis morning, with supporters that thick it is no surprise we are in a mess. I think many had not grasped the enormity of the situation we find ourselves in. Comments such as "we won't go down" have been common, and yesterday I even saw the old "knicker-wetters" phrase being bandied about again. Really?
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 28, 2019 19:37:39 GMT
Every single game is his last chance, except it isn’t because he doesn’t get sacked anyway.
We are stuck with him and will plummet down the divisions with him.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 28, 2019 8:57:03 GMT
We say this after each and every humiliating defeat. It's clear they want to stick with him but it's not clear why. It's crystal clear why. Nobody wants the job. And every new manager we bring in is worse than the last. Thing is tha last bit is no longer possible. You cannot really get any worse than we currently are.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 28, 2019 8:56:15 GMT
I'm not sure of your point Paul, but statistically 20 of those goals were in the first 9 matches and just 5 in the last 5. The main difference is Federici replacing Butland. We have conceded 3 goals in just 1 of the last 9 matches against Forest when Butland was in goal, and since when Federici has been first choice. My point about defenders was that Rowett got us into trouble at the start of last season, which he corrected by going all defensive. Jones defensive record last season was quite good; despite the dreadful start under Rowett, we finished last season with the 4th lowest number of goals conceded in the Championship, 52. 1 of the CBs was brought in last January and has been a pretty good stopper, 1 CB is a replacement for Shawcross being injured. Jones has followed Rowett by starting the season with a dreadful defensive record, but 5 conceded in the last 5 matches is more than respectable. Both managers made mistakes by sticking out for defenders they did not get in the transfer window (Rowett a CB from Villa, and Jones a LB from Luton) Personally i am more concerned on how we are going to score goals, because we don't appear to have any players of creating chances or capable of taking chances. Despite the dreadful start under Rowett? As bad as Rowett was, if it wasn't for his points, we would ALREADY have been relegated, the points earned under his tenure saved us last season. I'm not sure why you're not sure of the point I'm making ... it's really simple, I think you're attempting to defend the indefensible, Nathan Jones has been an unmitigated disaster for Stoke City Football Club and the longer he remains here, the more perilous our predicament becomes. Exactly...it should read "despite the dreadful finish under Jones" actually.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 28, 2019 8:52:25 GMT
A new manager should be in ASAP to hopefully change things enough that we don’t get cut adrift and give them enough time assess the squad and line up signings in January. Given his abysmal summer recruitment (which is a huge reason we’re so bad) I don’t want Jones anywhere near our January transfer dealings. We say this after each and every humiliating defeat. It's clear they want to stick with him but it's not clear why.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 26, 2019 15:49:12 GMT
True but I do think another manager would get better results and performances. Maybe. I don't know. But its becoming unaffordable now in terms of FFP. Lambert failed and Rowett failed and now NJ failing. To me that means we should be looking at the reasons why they are all failing. All routes lead to the door of the CEO and JC if you ask me. Or they were employed because they were relatively cheap and were never up to the job in the first place.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 20, 2019 13:25:42 GMT
2 wins no McClean. It's not fucking rocket science is it? H Expect him back the moment he’s fit though.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 20, 2019 13:23:23 GMT
Bit over the top for my liking. It said “small time club unexpectedly done well against a bigger and better club”, which of course is entirely true.
Might as well get used to what we once again are. Let’s not be like those fallen “bigger clubs” whose fans keep pretending it’s still the glory years. We’ve fallen far, and we’ve not finished falling yet, despite this result.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 20, 2019 13:18:52 GMT
2 wins & some people are getting really carried away. I think a little bit of reality is needed we are still in the bottom three & getting out of the relegation zone is the first objective. Talking about top 2 or play off places is a pipe dream at the moment lets just take one step at a time. It’s not just a pipe dream at the moment. It’s a pipe dream for the rest of the season, as an absolute minimum. First we need a new manager as this one does not have what it takes, by a long way.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 19, 2019 17:05:31 GMT
That's quite fascinating, thanks for putting it on here, I don't do twitter so I'd have missed it, cheers Definite stay of execution for me, but I want it written (and signed whilst holding his bible) in his blood that he doesn't start any more games with McClean or Ince unless the rest of the squad have all lost crucial body parts. Ince is fine off the bench if we're pushed This is my fear...that after a few wins he thinks it's ok to slip McClean and Ince back into the starting 11. You just know it's going to happen.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 19, 2019 17:03:05 GMT
For the first time in my decades of supporting Stoke, I really don't know whether I want him to stay or go.
Plus, I am not actually sure I care. Even if he goes, the club is a complete shitshow from top to bottom. We're the worst club in the league on so many levels. It's more embarrassing to be a Stoke fan now than at any time in our history. I can't bring myself to like ANY of the current squad, apart from perhaps Federici. I can't shake off the idea that they are only now playing better in order to make a move in January more likely.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 18, 2019 21:35:36 GMT
I've never lived in Stoke. Born and grew up in Sandbach, then lived in Crewe but worked at Talke Pits Normid (who remembers THAT?) for a couple of years.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 17, 2019 17:27:15 GMT
I think not acting decisively after a spawny win at Watford will be the one that haunts us the longest. See also - not acting decisively after a spawny win at Swansea.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 14, 2019 14:06:08 GMT
Can’t help wishing Diouf was still in the team. He wasn’t the greatest striker ever but I’d take his brand of cow’s arse / banjo hitting right now over anything we currently do. Seemed a decent sort as well.
I hope he is ok. I can only wish him the very best and thank him for all he did. It was far better than some suggest.
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 12, 2019 14:48:35 GMT
How can you lose a mortgage. by losing a bet? Haha. You know I thought that as I typed it. I say all the time but when you write it down it does look a bit odd. So don't know chief, I will think of summat else to say next time I've never got that, cheap at half the price, one either! That one got corrupted somehow, it was originally "cheap at twice the price".
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 12, 2019 8:40:26 GMT
If we keep Jones, give it three seasons and we can have a non league day every weekend!
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