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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 19:59:01 GMT
I'm afraid if you think Leicester with their speed of movement, fluid interchange of positions, chance creating, goal scoring way resemble a Pulis style of play in any shape or form then you have forgotten what is what. I make no excuses for suggesting football has a right way and a wrong way where paying supporters are involved. They're a better version of the Cup Final side with a 20 goal striker instead of Kenwyne Jones. They let the opposition have the ball, no nonsense defence, physical presence and quick breaking. A lot of similarities IMO. And fortunately there is IMO no "right way" to play the game which is why its such a fascinating game. Okay I will compromise and accept your point. We played in a Leicester type way for a whole six weeks. Ive only ever seen Ukyestony describe Pulisball as fascinating by the way.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 19:52:13 GMT
There IS a right way to play the game. At least try to play with ambition and not short change supporters who shell out thousands following their team. Also not make it all about making a seven figure bonus each season AGAIN at the expense of paying supporters and their sanity. The right way is the successful way. Tony Pulis is one of the most successful managers in our history. I think the vast majority of people have been able to see and feel the quantum leap forward from day one of Pulis being replaced by a management team with the imagination and ability to manage a Premier League team. They have put the "only Tone" horseshit firmly to bed. Truth is that he was a well funded individual who delivered the expected by a formula that always had a shelf life and is unacceptable to supporters who pay good money for far more than watching their team reduce football to a grind of attrition. Of course there will always be a minority so stars truck by the ambition of pure survival that these arguments will break out wherever he is transported to in order to defend to forty points. That is why we see West Brom fans fighting with each other. Is there are a right way or wrong way? Well there is if you want to watch. Maybe not if you get your pleasure from results alone. In the latter case why turn up to watch at all?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 12:09:03 GMT
The Sentinel may just have mentioned on the basis of some knowledge. Of course they may have completely made it up and the real truth was that Cartwright spent hours over some of those famous "bite to eat" evenings helping Pulis write the game changing dossier he was going to present at his sacking meeting with St Peter. He's doing a great job. Finding that Senagalese lad from Germany as second choice right back was an absolute masterstroke. Proof we didn't need any transfer creativity in January I'm not going to embarrass you by explaining how many light years ahead we are now in the recruitment game compared to when it was down to Tone, Kempo and Parso. There are some things that even those who don't want to see can't ignore.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 12:06:20 GMT
Must include Mark Cartwright I reckon. Interesting that the Sentinel article on Cartwright made passing reference to a "difficult relationship" with Pulis. It went a lot further than difficult. Cartwright and the team now instrumental in transforming the quality and value of player purchasing at the club was completely ignored by the dinosaur. Still there are still a handful of people both within our supporter base and WBA's that can't see Pulis methodology is ultimately one that is unsustainable, prehistoric and divisive in and out of the club. It doesn't justify coin throwing in any shape or form but it is something top level football will be well rid of. Hatred, really? PS you're sounding dangerously like someone about to start talking about football being played "the right way". There's more than one way to skin a cat as they say.....in fact Leicester are playing a style not completely dissimilar to Pulisball at its best.....and it's not doing them much harm is it? I'm afraid if you think Leicester with their speed of movement, fluid interchange of positions, chance creating, goal scoring way resemble a Pulis style of play in any shape or form then you have forgotten what is what. I make no excuses for suggesting football has a right way and a wrong way where paying supporters are involved.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 12:01:13 GMT
Depends on the player as far as this board goes. For example Bojan would become a sex symbol but Walters would probably be ridiculed. I suppose it would be equally fair to say that if a player was one of our old school Pulis players you would defend them if they turned out to be a child murderer. What a stupid post.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 11:55:48 GMT
Must include Mark Cartwright I reckon. Interesting that the Sentinel article on Cartwright made passing reference to a "difficult relationship" with Pulis. It went a lot further than difficult. Cartwright and the team now instrumental in transforming the quality and value of player purchasing at the club was completely ignored by the dinosaur. Still there are still a handful of people both within our supporter base and WBA's that can't see Pulis methodology is ultimately one that is unsustainable, prehistoric and divisive in and out of the club. It doesn't justify coin throwing in any shape or form but it is something top level football will be well rid of. To be strictly accurate, Cartwright didn't mention it the 'journalist' did. Congratulations on your new job at the Sentinel by the way The Sentinel may just have mentioned on the basis of some knowledge. Of course they may have completely made it up and the real truth was that Cartwright spent hours over some of those famous "bite to eat" evenings helping Pulis write the game changing dossier he was going to present at his sacking meeting with St Peter.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 11:40:29 GMT
Yup! And despite that he bloke is hated by a good number of our support and the same goes wherever he's been. He's toxic alright! A "good number"? Bollocks. A small, festering carbuncular collection of bitter, twisted individuals whose only positive quality is their enduraeand persistence. Must include Mark Cartwright I reckon. Interesting that the Sentinel article on Cartwright made passing reference to a "difficult relationship" with Pulis. It went a lot further than difficult. Cartwright and the team now instrumental in transforming the quality and value of player purchasing at the club was completely ignored by the dinosaur. Still there are still a handful of people both within our supporter base and WBA's that can't see Pulis methodology is ultimately one that is unsustainable, prehistoric and divisive in and out of the club. It doesn't justify coin throwing in any shape or form but it is something top level football will be well rid of.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 20, 2016 20:10:44 GMT
Fans were fighting each other st Newcastle also mate and it had nothing to do with coin throwing It's what he does to clubs Didnt know that mate,Scunthorpe all over again :-)Have a listen to WM at the minute mate very interesting to say the least You listen to WM Radio??? You need to ring them up and tell them about all the Pulis obsessed people you know!!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 19, 2016 23:04:00 GMT
Momo, you can say the same about any business, ultimately the owners have the final say however I have no doubt that without Council representation, free away travel on official coaches would have almost certainly gone and reciprocal ticket prices would have been less than they are. That's an incredibly bold statement to make and a grab at an awful lot of credit. I'd love to see one shred of evidence to support that. Do mention that thought to St Peter the next time you see him Ange!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 19, 2016 22:47:21 GMT
I'm very disheartened to learn that the meeting still went ahead without Ilford Dave. What’s the frigging point? Indeed. The bastards will be sneaking the tannoy volume up again without the vigilance of the Stoke City Couriers representative!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 17, 2016 21:28:20 GMT
are you emailing him that you want season ticket prices to be increased like our supporters council do? No need for that! Ilford Dave, council member representing Stoke City couriers worldwide had the music turned down with no thanks from ungrateful barstewards like you!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 17, 2016 21:23:53 GMT
Certainly not! I'm attending the glamour game in the division at Stocksbridge Park Steels!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 14, 2016 0:23:06 GMT
There is so much reasonable argument in there that it's difficult to disagree with you, no matter how much my instinct tells me I should. I'd stick with your instincts in future
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 11, 2016 21:15:52 GMT
Those infamous meeting minutes once more: www.stokecityfc.com/news/article/supporters-council-meeting-minutes-2115727.aspxAlan Clarke said that it would be "financial suicide to keep the prices the same", Andrew Copestick "agreed" with Alan, Roger Bennett "feels that an increase is justified", Joe Haynes says the Club "could warrant a ... price increase", John Slaney agreed with the other's views. Ladies & Gentlemen, these are the people that represent you to the hierarchy of your Football Club!! FFS. Not long after this meeting was held on 22nd November 2014 wasn't it announced that Stoke City were the 30th richest football club in the entire world. Stoke City Supporters Council representing your average Stoke City fan...or not as the case maybe. Still can't get my head round this. There was literally no financial justification for raising the prices. Baffling that some members of this 'supporters council' were seemingly unaware of how much money from tv rights the club makes The last time I was moved/bored enough to look at the Supporter Council minutes Clarke was still an active member much to the eternal shame of the group. I stopped checking on the members list when I saw Ilford Dave had been incorporated - after he failed to get enough votes to be elected on in the first place. A bloke who runs a Twitter account taking the piss out of Stoke supporters by the way. See The Oatcake Meltdown and reconcile yourself with the fact that the SC are happy to have him representing you. Mind you last time I checked he was agitating over the major issue of the music being too loud for his sensitive ears. I suppose every individual and group finds its natural level.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 2, 2016 12:49:10 GMT
We're no better off out wide than we were this time last year. We've stood still. We have stood still? Did the summer not happen?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 30, 2016 23:25:33 GMT
Has never been so important because of the way we play now imo.Hughes even admitted after the game that Palace were happy for us to keep possession without really threatening them,thoughts? Our record in turning games around this season certainly back that up. Teams not prepared to come out at us remain a real problem. It is something that requires addressing.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 30, 2016 23:20:16 GMT
If he was playing now, he'd surely have England caps. No mate, he wouldn't. He plays for Stoke. I've watched Denis from the early days. He was a brilliant fearsome warrior, as was Bluto but England weren't interested. Likewise. I remember his rather clumsy debut when I was a wed nipper stood in the Boothen Paddock for that particular game. Denis was called up on several occasions as I remember but was always injured. England did have some decent centre halves back in the day in fairness.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 27, 2016 20:48:23 GMT
Why hasn't that surprised me?? Has Stokelad moved in with you yet?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 27, 2016 20:43:50 GMT
Who is going to be your witness. Your other username? You can accuse me of many things but telling lies isn't one. A whole thread developed laughing at your stupidity Bin! I'll take this up with you personally. You're a liar. I set up another username when you banned me for having a different opinion to you (I didn't see that reason in our list of rules btw). I have never priased my own posts. That is just a needless lie and backs up what I've been saying about the admins not exactly helping the problems of this board and quite often cause them. I've invited you to discuss it with me directly. I'll meet you for a beer after work one evening. Drop me a pm.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 27, 2016 20:34:12 GMT
I've no idea why you were banned the other week but I know there are three main reasons why people do get banned/suspended. Firstly for foul mouthed gratuitous abuse. A rule you break on a daily basis. Secondly for thread wrecking. I suspended you a couple of years back for repeatedly trolling the Daveviews thread. Despite repeated requests to leave it alone you just could not ignore it and was determined to destroy the pleasure other people were getting from it. For some reason you felt you had some right to censure the thread. Thirdly we have always had a problem with people who register multi user names. Again I suspended you when you were using a second account (Bin something or other) to congratulate yourself on the points you were making. None of the above have a damn thing to do with cliques or anything else you list. Just bad manners and bad form We have always been more than tolerant with you as a long time user of this message board and someone who I like. To turn around and come out with that sort of shit makes me wonder why we bother. Why don't you just give it s rest? You've called me a cunt several time son this board and you haven't been banned. Cricket Club Clique. As for the above absolute lie about praising my own posts, you filthy lying git, retract or I will sue the cunt out of you. Who is going to be your witness. Your other username? You can accuse me of many things but telling lies isn't one. A whole thread developed laughing at your stupidity Bin! I'll take this up with you personally.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 27, 2016 20:07:14 GMT
Oh give it a rest. For years we have given you more rope than we have given many people. And you know it. Utter bollocks. My ban the other week was fucking pathetic and whichever clown did it whilst sitting back and watch others run riot (including racists) should hang up their moderating cloak. They're too one eyed, biased and utterly shit at the job for them to bother. As I say, one rule for some, a different one for the cricket club clique, a different one if you supply regular or semi regular columns for the magazine and worst of all a different one if you suggest the former manager wasn't Adolf Hitler. You in particular have to hold your hands up to how shit this place has become. I've no idea why you were banned the other week but I know there are three main reasons why people do get banned/suspended. Firstly for foul mouthed gratuitous abuse. A rule you break on a daily basis. Secondly for thread wrecking. I suspended you a couple of years back for repeatedly trolling the Daveviews thread. Despite repeated requests to leave it alone you just could not ignore it and was determined to destroy the pleasure other people were getting from it. For some reason you felt you had some right to censure the thread. Thirdly we have always had a problem with people who register multi user names. Again I suspended you when you were using a second account (Bin something or other) to congratulate yourself on the points you were making. None of the above have a damn thing to do with cliques or anything else you list. Just bad manners and bad form We have always been more than tolerant with you as a long time user of this message board and someone who I like. To turn around and come out with that sort of shit makes me wonder why we bother. Why don't you just give it s rest?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 27, 2016 19:38:24 GMT
Until I pay subscriptions to this board they can admin it anyway they like but to say the admins themselves are not part of the problem is head in the sand stuff. There are certain rules for certain posters and at least one admin isn't averse to a bit of trolling himself! Oh give it a rest. For years we have given you more rope than we have given many people. And you know it.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 25, 2016 22:34:31 GMT
Indeed but I bet your inquisitive mind and sense of fair play that has you frothing at the mouth is tweaked by the talk of cuts in agents backhanders? That Palacios and indeed the Andrew Davies bargain were good business for Stoke City were they not?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 25, 2016 22:06:28 GMT
Neither have I but shouldn't this be in the Everything Pulis thread?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 25, 2016 20:48:28 GMT
Light the blue touch paper and retire. Spidey where have you been? He has been busy posting under his regular username. Spiderman only comes out for special occasions.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 25, 2016 12:40:57 GMT
I think this thread has now run its course.
The original point has been well made and covered. As everyone can see we are in danger of it being turned into the usual and unacceptable stage for people with their own motives.
I'm now locking the thread.
Thanks
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 24, 2016 13:21:05 GMT
Indeed and your point yesterday that simply hounding Wilson was missing the point about the Leicester game was spot on too. The very essence of this season's Premier League has been the ability of every single team to look the real deal one week and dog shite the next. Certainly true of us. Some of the reactions we are seeing and suggested remedies are breath taking though. You must see that we need another bastard winger though? Surely? I'm interested in bringing in any player in any position that is an improvement on what we have got. Another way of putting it is that I am only interested in seeing us make marquee signings who will be first team regulars and capable of improving the quality another notch. Whether that type of player becomes available in this window or we have to wait until the summer remains to be seen. Im definitely not interested in bringing in a sticking plaster who will be adequate for the short term while we get everyone firing again but will ultimately end up sitting in the stand or on the bench at best. We have plenty of them. As far as a winger is concerned that rule applies and when you consider that our most potent combination features Arnie and Shaq as the width supported by Johnson and Erik bombing on it is going to have to be some player to be worth our while. It certainly rules out players such as Townsend as I have seen mentioned. The club has enough makeweights to lose from the squad without kneejerk additions of the likes I have seen mentioned. We are not about needing squad players anymore. We are about upping the quality window after window. As I said it is going to be a hell of a player who will improve on Arnie and Shaq so if we don't bring in a winger I wont lose a moments sleep. A makeweight will only block the path of some promising young player or two.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 24, 2016 13:01:42 GMT
We're joint 6th in the 'last six' form table and have 13 points out of 18 in the last six at home. We've been playing well enough without hitting the heights we can. Yesterday was a massive disappointment though. We were second best in every facet of the game. Indeed and your point yesterday that simply hounding Wilson was missing the point about the Leicester game was spot on too. The very essence of this season's Premier League has been the ability of every single team to look the real deal one week and dog shite the next. Certainly true of us. Some of the reactions we are seeing and suggested remedies are breath taking though.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 24, 2016 12:48:20 GMT
Funny but you are always the first onto the scene like an insurance ambulance chaser when someone else mentions "him" and the first (as in this thread) to make a link to "him" when nobody mentions "him". And yet it is everyone but you who is obsessed. Strange one that isn't it? You've been watching too many re-runs of Only fools and horses mate Yes possibly but I did spot you aren't a horse.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 24, 2016 12:46:36 GMT
I think most fans want to see crouch playing more. got to feel sorry for the guy he was the first big name come stoke. playing odemwinge before him is a joke. come on hughes play him or let him finish his career somewhere else Have you spoken to "most" fans? I'm the first to respond but I don't want to see him playing more. Im sure plenty more have said similar but I don't either. Perhaps we are sitting in the wrong part of the stadium to gauge most views, Dave?
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