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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 10, 2016 11:59:14 GMT
I was told the other day the club have been quoted £14million for the scoreboard corner fill in and moving the big telly. It was quoted as £3.8 million when it got planning permission and that was 3 years ago I think. It was a low price because the footings are already in place. That seems about right - with a bit of inflation it should still come in at under £4.5 million now. You have had over 18% inflation in the last three years up in the places time didn't even know existed?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 10, 2016 11:49:46 GMT
Are you bored today Dave?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 10, 2016 11:48:12 GMT
The luckiest defender in the world is Cahill. An absolutely woeful defender, yet plays in the Champions League and is first choice centre half for England. Yes he must be really lucky mustn't he? Either that or he is actually quite good and this is just another hand bagging thread trying to pick holes in anyone who is chosen ahead of Ryan for England.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 8, 2016 12:44:23 GMT
This is a thread made on false pretences! I should lock it immediately. Who are these "neutrals" and "some on 'ere" who worry about qualifying for Europe? I haven't spotted any and at best it must be a tiny minority. I'm thinking of starting a thread about all those on 'ere who worry about our players who play in boots with any blue on them.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 2, 2016 23:26:37 GMT
It would have been another frustrating draw, yes we won but we weren't totally convincing again tonight. Shaqiri was a class apart today, a bit quieter second half but he looked the ONLY THREAT going forward and obviously the worldy from Jack at the end. Onwards and upwards! When was this string of frustrating draws you allude to? I'm genuinely interested in when it was.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 25, 2016 22:50:54 GMT
Oh come on now. Even you in your defend Pulis to the death mode you know full well for every occasion we tried to win such a game there were dozens when the manager shat himself. Don't be silly. Bonus games ring a bell? It just smacks of wankstain cake and eat it nonsense though doesn’t it? Just searching for reasons to diminish achievements with. I mean lets really start diminishing if you want to. I mean our highest ever Premier League finishing position coincided with the Premier League’s overall worst coefficient since we got promoted so how much of an achievement was it in reality? Alternatively of course we could start celebrating and appreciating all of our achievements of the past decade? I fully understand what you say but when going to watch your football becomes a chore (and it did for many) the rest becomes almost nothing. Football is a release?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 25, 2016 22:42:51 GMT
To a point no but the regular problem was that the team would take the initiative and then play hold what we have from the moment the second half started. It regularly included taking a winger off after 60 mins to bring on the likes of Dean Deano Whitehead or the like. Very frustrating for me anyway. Maybe I was easily pleased then?The 1st season at home in the prem is something that will live long in the memory for me and with crowd noise that I wish we could recreate again sometime soon Well again you wont get many arguments with the above. The problem is that its always selective periods and examples. Do you see that the issue is that the side were capable of all you say but ultimately the bloke turned into a parody of himself and withdrew into a shell taking the potential of the team with him? Frustrating and ultimately self destructive.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 25, 2016 22:32:49 GMT
From the West Scrum mb - "Just had a browse on a premiership statistics website and have found some very unsurprising results. Total Passes = 20th Total Accurate Short Passes = 20th Average Pass Completion % = 19th Average Shots per game = 20th Average Shots on target per game = 20th Average Shots in the Penalty Area per game = 20th Average Goals scored per game = 19th (Villa are 20th) Average Possession % = 20th I know pro Pulis people will claim the only statistic that matters is the one that says we are 14th, but its clear we are lucky to be in that position and quite frankly the above statistics makes me embarrassed of our league position. Whats the point in staying up if we cant enjoy it?" Surprisingly a lot of 'em seem to want rid of him, the ungrateful bastards. Results are the be all and end all* *unless you're talking about SCFC post May 2013. When I read that I understand that some get football in a different way I suppose.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 25, 2016 22:20:32 GMT
Oh come on now. Even you in your defend Pulis to the death mode you know full well for every occasion we tried to win such a game there were dozens when the manager shat himself. Don't be silly. Bonus games ring a bell? I don't think you could ever say that in home games Mark To a point no but the regular problem was that the team would take the initiative and then play hold what we have from the moment the second half started. It regularly included taking a winger off after 60 mins to bring on the likes of Dean Deano Whitehead or the like. Very frustrating for me anyway.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 25, 2016 22:11:42 GMT
Completely agree with that Foxey. Problem is we wouldn't have. The laundry women would have been doing overtime washing Tone's underwear and we would have played the waiting for something to drop game. Sadly that was the way it was and is with Tone which I suspect we both know. It is a frustration that many have with the guy I guess. I guess the fact that we'd beaten Man City and Arsenal in Cup ties previously under Pulis is entirely irrelevant! Oh come on now. Even you in your defend Pulis to the death mode you know full well for every occasion we tried to win such a game there were dozens when the manager shat himself. Don't be silly. Bonus games ring a bell?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 25, 2016 21:55:59 GMT
I don't think there's any doubt our qualification for the Europa League came about by the fact that we avoided the two Manchester clubs in the semi-final. People can bitch and whine all they like about that point of view but is it wrong? We were all ecstatic for a reason when we avoided Citeh and and The Shit in the semi-finals and though I'd never try to water down the achievement of reaching the FA Cup Final, that's a fact. Finishing seventh over a grueling 38-game Premier League season would be a notable achievement by Stoke and would probably mean we'd break the 60 point mark and finish above the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool and Everton. It wouldn't need the luck of a random ball being drawn out of a bag and though you may argue that it would be by default because bigger, richer clubs have won the cups and qualified for the Champions League, it would be well worthy of a place in the Europa League. How can you be certain we wouldn't have beaten Citeh or United in the semi? If we'd played as we did v Bolton we could quite easily have beaten either of them. Completely agree with that Foxey. Problem is we wouldn't have. The laundry women would have been doing overtime washing Tone's underwear and we would have played the waiting for something to drop game. Sadly that was the way it was and is with Tone which I suspect we both know. It is a frustration that many have with the guy I guess.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 25, 2016 16:00:40 GMT
I don't recall hailing them as magnificent victories deserving the erection of an Arc De Triomphe in the roadway outside where Woolies used to be in Stoke Town centre to be honest. There are an awful lot of if, buts and probably in there to be fair but as you have a crystal ball that allowed you to see our defensive injury list coming its hard to argue with you. I'm clearly inconsistent ahead of the fact as charged As was posted by many any deadline day night and many like it. 'Any complaints now from inside the club that we haven't met our objectives this season due to injuries can be viewed as completely hollow' Shawcross and Wilson were already out long term. Muniesa cannot be trusted to stay fit, Glen Johnson is in his thirties and the rest of the cover, like Tex and Bardsley simply isn't good enough. Hey ho, I suppose that crippled animal, Villa rolling in to town to potentially see our centre forward playing right back and Jonny Brazil who Fleetwood didn't want at the back is full testament to how far we've come in that area Another transfer window you are proclaiming as a shambles then?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 25, 2016 12:58:52 GMT
Yeah I see your point but I don't think we get to play Cardiff reserves, Brighton reserves. Volvohampton Wankerers or falling over the edge of a cliff Bolton in our Premier League run in do we? I'm not going to mention your transfer window comment. If I keep it quiet you wont get laughed at. I suppose being outplayed for an hour by under strength Luton and Fulham outfits would have been been brought up by you if we were playing in a final on Sunday wouldn't they. I mean you're so wonderfully consistent like that aren't you I don't recall hailing them as magnificent victories deserving the erection of an Arc De Triomphe in the roadway outside where Woolies used to be in Stoke Town centre to be honest. There are an awful lot of if, buts and probably in there to be fair but as you have a crystal ball that allowed you to see our defensive injury list coming its hard to argue with you. I'm clearly inconsistent ahead of the fact as charged
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 25, 2016 12:42:40 GMT
Okay fair enough. It looks like you are lining up your arguments for May just in case. Nothing like being ahead of the game. Can't fault you. I think we will miss out due to injuries and an arrogant January window, where it was possible to predict all of our current defensive woes. We could do it and will be a superb effort to qualify via that route just like Cup Runner up was. Yeah? Yeah I see your point but I don't think we get to play Cardiff reserves, Brighton reserves. Volvohampton Wankerers or falling over the edge of a cliff Bolton in our Premier League run in do we? I'm not going to mention your transfer window comment. If I keep it quiet you wont get laughed at.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 25, 2016 12:28:57 GMT
So if we all play your game and to a man say that getting into Europe by losing an FA Cup final is the more glorious achievement, what is your point? My point is that I think both would me marvellous achievements and that I would never dream of diminishing either in any way and would acknowledge both as fantastic efforts by players and management alike as well as embracing each with equal enthusiasm without felling the need to mention words like 'default' and 'backdoor'. That’s what sets normal fans apart from the wankstain community! Okay fair enough. It looks like you are lining up your arguments for May just in case. Nothing like being ahead of the game. Can't fault you.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 25, 2016 0:00:23 GMT
Question for the wankstains, out of interest would getting into Europe by finishing 7th because top 5 teams won the League and FA Cups be the same as getting in for not winning anything but coming runner up in a cup? I just want to get the history re-writes in early for a change if you could oblige? Let the squirming commence So if we all play your game and to a man say that getting into Europe by losing an FA Cup final is the more glorious achievement, what is your point?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 24, 2016 12:49:45 GMT
Finishing 2nd in the Championship with a squad that a lot of experts (including our own) predicted would be relegated or battling relegation has to be up there tbh. The season after we had finished a cock hair short of the play-offs and we again strengthened our squad with record breaking signings and expensive loans, people were tipping us for relegation? Really? Who were these people? I do remember St Peter telling us that play-offs were a minimum he would accept. Our finest hour has to be winning the first and only major trophy in our history doesn't it?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 23, 2016 22:37:34 GMT
Can I summarise from a non biased position Tony Pulis is woven into the fabric Of Stoke City's History - and for what he did - we should be grateful ( true) However His teams more often than not, play a truly atrocious brand of negative boring football - certainly away from home pretty much always and, over time, as he struggles to evolve the style of play, the default negativity ingrained in his management teams approach, infects the home style of play also - and then then he usually moves on either voluntarily or , is paid to do so ( true also) I thought you once described this "atrocious brand of negative boring football" as intriguing, Tony?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 23, 2016 22:26:35 GMT
I wonder how many managers in any walk of life have assaulted another employee and still kept their job. Didn't hurt Fergie from what I recall. It hurt Beckham!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 23, 2016 22:20:24 GMT
No really. I don't mind honest. Its ages since I did a good satisfying thread merge. Just say the word. Please! It inna hard, Mark. Merge shit, boring, droning fucking on threads about how much the little merry band of campers hate Pulis. (Or bores like Crapslinger or Bayernoatcake think pretty much every Stoke player is shit..... infact, just merge them straight into the Shit Bin - Which needs it's old name back by the way!) Don't merge breaking news about players & their latest injury/contract/transfer/etc... Do you mind! You are not supposed to think for yourself and all statements like that need central committee approval!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 23, 2016 22:06:48 GMT
Its still there somewhere. Is this a popular clamour for a thread merge? Dunna change your habits for me Marky :-) No really. I don't mind honest. Its ages since I did a good satisfying thread merge. Just say the word. Please!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 23, 2016 22:03:56 GMT
Strangely it wasn't this thread that I wasn't contributing to...dunno what happened here + Methinks two threads have been merged Strange that they keep active threads about gay Stoke players! That's Davef for you
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 23, 2016 22:00:28 GMT
What happened to the " All things Pulis " thread ? Personally I'm as bored with talk about him as I was with most of his football. Said exactly the same the other week mate,that thread suddenly disappeared and now we have the usual shit week on week Its still there somewhere. Is this a popular clamour for a thread merge?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 20:50:43 GMT
I always knew it. Are you sure you're going to the Brit this season, you seem to be seeing goalmouths being peppered with action! Not so! I see a whole lot more than West Brom fans do and in case you missed the real point I see a side that fails to deliver what it is trying to achieve but there is the all important difference between now and the past. And we both know that in time the parts will click on a regular basis. You can work that out and accept it surely? Whilst you struggle along with the concept enjoy a treat I found for you.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 20:35:09 GMT
Someone break the news to the poor lad gently.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 20:31:10 GMT
Yes indeed. However the ones who watch football don't mister. Like I said. If the result that is all that matters to you why watch? Most people who watch football like to see how the result was obtained don't they and unless they are a bit tapped would rather like to see their team attacking and having a go at the opposition with things like shots at goal. The latter is not something you associate with Tony Pulis is it? Whatever the stat is I find it hard to beleive we've had more shots on target than two or three teams this season at the most. Even when we play really well, we rarely get more than 3 on target. Not a problem though, its all about the results for me I always knew it.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 20:26:43 GMT
Hard to believe this thread has droned on for ten pages, unyet barely any of it is about the actual scumbag who threw a coin at a football player. Surely any other thread, about any other topic would have been locked and/or binned ages ago?! We don't normally lock or bin threads on the basis that it has bored you
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 20:25:23 GMT
Yes indeed. However the ones who watch football don't mister. Like I said. If the result that is all that matters to you why watch? Most people who watch football like to see how the result was obtained don't they and unless they are a bit tapped would rather like to see their team attacking and having a go at the opposition with things like shots at goal. The latter is not something you associate with Tony Pulis is it? Sorry... I don't understand what you mean iin your first sentence.Please explain. It alludes to the armchair millions. I assumed it was they to whom you were referring to as being the millions to whom only the result matters. Look, I respect your right to be thrilled by watching you multi-million pound side set up on their minimal dimension home pitch to not lose and have an attacking strategy based on hoping something drops. It just bored the arse of many and was seen as unexccesary which has been proved beyond argument. It continues to anger and divide at West Brom. I know all do not see it my way and equally not everyone is as content by getting safe by foul means or fair as you which is why Pulis attracts so much discontent and trouble among his own supporters.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 20:16:49 GMT
things like shots at goal. mmmmm, this season? Really want to go with that one? Luckily (and most importantly) the results have been ok Now you have moved in next door to the Hawthornes I would have thought you would be familiar with the stat doing the rounds about West Brom and shots at goal?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 21, 2016 20:02:16 GMT
I think the vast majority of people have been able to see and feel the quantum leap forward from day one of Pulis being replaced by a management team with the imagination and ability to manage a Premier League team. They have put the "only Tone" horseshit firmly to bed. Truth is that he was a well funded individual who delivered the expected by a formula that always had a shelf life and is unacceptable to supporters who pay good money for far more than watching their team reduce football to a grind of attrition. Of course there will always be a minority so stars truck by the ambition of pure survival that these arguments will break out wherever he is transported to in order to defend to forty points. That is why we see West Brom fans fighting with each other. Is there are a right way or wrong way? Well there is if you want to watch. Maybe not if you get your pleasure from results alone. In the latter case why turn up to watch at all? Think you will find mister that there are millions of footy fans who get their pleasure from "results alone" Yes indeed. However the ones who watch football don't mister. Like I said. If the result that is all that matters to you why watch? Most people who watch football like to see how the result was obtained don't they and unless they are a bit tapped would rather like to see their team attacking and having a go at the opposition with things like shots at goal. The latter is not something you associate with Tony Pulis is it?
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