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Post by stokiejack on Jan 24, 2016 11:58:36 GMT
I know we are in a good position in the league and I'm very happy this season overall.
But....
When was out last really good performance?
Our recent form suggests a while ago.
West Brom - Lost - Very poor display & tactics all wrong
Doncaster - Won - average to poor performance
Liverpool - Lost - Poor performance & wrong tactics
Norwich - won - Poor overall performance but managed to get a win in the end.
Arsenal - drew - ok performance - could of done better, could of done worse.
Leicester - lost - worst performance of the season.
Performances have been very worrying of late. We need to get back to full fitness and get firing again.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 24, 2016 12:12:21 GMT
Man City at home was the last time and possibly the only time this season we've been really good for both halves.
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Post by harryburrows on Jan 24, 2016 12:14:45 GMT
Bear in mind the last 2 January's relegation was still a very real possibility .
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 24, 2016 12:16:52 GMT
Last weekend against top of the league Arsenal who we matched throughout the game.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 24, 2016 12:18:59 GMT
I know we are in a good position in the league and I'm very happy this season overall. But.... When was out last really good performance? Our recent form suggests a while ago. West Brom - Lost - Very poor display & tactics all wrong Doncaster - Won - average to poor performance Liverpool - Lost - Poor performance & wrong tactics Norwich - won - Poor overall performance but managed to get a win in the end. Arsenal - drew - ok performance - could of done better, could of done worse. Leicester - lost - worst performance of the season. Performances have been very worrying of late. We need to get back to full fitness and get firing again. So you don't rate the performance against Arsenal who went top of the league with the draw and but for a stellar performance by Cech would have lost by a couple of goals? |
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Post by march4 on Jan 24, 2016 12:19:05 GMT
The physical rigours of the game vs West Brom have cost us that little bit of extra fitness in the games since.
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Post by th3oldvic on Jan 24, 2016 12:19:56 GMT
Playing badly and 9th, 4pts off 5th place, 12pts clear of relegation and still only January! this season has been very hit and miss and I bet Hughes is scratching his head at times with some of the performances, fact is year on year we are improving under him, things could be alot lot worse
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Post by OldStokie on Jan 24, 2016 12:24:33 GMT
Last weekend against top of the league Arsenal who we matched throughout the game. My thoughts echoed axactly.
"Arsenal - drew - ok performance - could of done better, could of done worse."I think this 'Stokelona' thing has distorted a few peoples thinking. OS. |
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Post by mondeoman on Jan 24, 2016 12:26:17 GMT
1975
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Post by march4 on Jan 24, 2016 12:27:26 GMT
We were hit or miss in those days. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 24, 2016 12:37:05 GMT
V the Shit, our best was against Man C.The Arsenal game was ok, but we didn't win.  Our form will go up and down, that's why we are a middish table team |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2016 12:40:01 GMT
Arsenal was ok I agree.
Man Yoo we were good for 30 mins.
I missed the Man City game so of the home games I can't think of another one.
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Post by werrington on Jan 24, 2016 12:42:39 GMT
Has Everton away just been eradicated from the oatcake knee jerk selective memory bank then
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 12:47:00 GMT
Very good performance against a very strong Arsenal
so the op point is NOT MADE
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2016 12:47:08 GMT
Has Everton away just been eradicated from the oatcake knee jerk selective memory bank then I'm talking home games tbf. We've been very workmanlike at home for me in general. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 24, 2016 12:48:02 GMT
We're joint 6th in the 'last six' form table and have 13 points out of 18 in the last six at home. We've been playing well enough without hitting the heights we can.
Yesterday was a massive disappointment though. We were second best in every facet of the game.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 24, 2016 12:51:03 GMT
We've been consistently inconsistent - from the sublime to the ridiculous. Sometimes in the same match!
On the whole it's been a great season so far despite what mealy mouthed know it alls say.
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Post by werrington on Jan 24, 2016 12:51:14 GMT
We're joint 6th in the 'last six' form table and have 13 points out of 18 in the last six at home. We've been playing well enough without hitting the heights we can. Yesterday was a massive disappointment though. We were second best in every facet of the game. It was woeful mate but some of the threads that have followed it have been embarrassing and utterly appalling if I'm being honest ....it was one of those one off games that occasionally rears its head ...no more no less I'm embarrassed reading them |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2016 12:56:09 GMT
We've been consistently inconsistent - from the sublime to the ridiculous. Sometimes in the same match! On the whole it's been a great season so far despite what mealy mouthed know it alls say. It's been good but we I don't think we've been anything like how good we can bar the Man City game. |
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Post by fca47 on Jan 24, 2016 12:57:03 GMT
Think yesterday showed all the talk of European football is pie in the sky, we're way behind West Ham etc. We're better than last season but until we address the lack of goals we are going nowhere.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2016 12:59:26 GMT
Think yesterday showed all the talk of European football is pie in the sky, we're way behind West Ham etc. We're better than last season but until we address the lack of goals we are going nowhere. Are we better than last season? I think it's been very similar in terms of we're getting points but not playing that well. We have more in attack but the midfield can't control a gamer like it could last season. Bojans not as good but the wings are infinitely better. |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jan 24, 2016 12:59:44 GMT
We played very well against Arsenal last week.
I really do wonder what some people expect.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 24, 2016 13:00:24 GMT
Think yesterday showed all the talk of European football is pie in the sky, we're way behind West Ham etc. We're better than last season but until we address the lack of goals we are going nowhere. Way behind as in 3 points? |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 24, 2016 13:01:42 GMT
We're joint 6th in the 'last six' form table and have 13 points out of 18 in the last six at home. We've been playing well enough without hitting the heights we can. Yesterday was a massive disappointment though. We were second best in every facet of the game. Indeed and your point yesterday that simply hounding Wilson was missing the point about the Leicester game was spot on too. The very essence of this season's Premier League has been the ability of every single team to look the real deal one week and dog shite the next. Certainly true of us. Some of the reactions we are seeing and suggested remedies are breath taking though. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2016 13:02:49 GMT
We're joint 6th in the 'last six' form table and have 13 points out of 18 in the last six at home. We've been playing well enough without hitting the heights we can. Yesterday was a massive disappointment though. We were second best in every facet of the game. Indeed and your point yesterday that simply hounding Wilson was missing the point about the Leicester game was spot on too. The very essence of this season's Premier League has been the ability of every single team to look the real deal one week and dog shite the next. Certainly true of us. Some of the reactions we are seeing and suggested remedies are breath taking though. You must see that we need another bastard winger though? Surely? |
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Post by salopstick on Jan 24, 2016 13:04:38 GMT
We're joint 6th in the 'last six' form table and have 13 points out of 18 in the last six at home. We've been playing well enough without hitting the heights we can. Yesterday was a massive disappointment though. We were second best in every facet of the game. It was woeful mate but some of the threads that have followed it have been embarrassing and utterly appalling if I'm being honest ....it was one of those one off games that occasionally rears its head ...no more no less I'm embarrassed reading them you would think the rimmers. And tbh it's usually them would follow the Pulis mantra Don't get too high winning or down when losing |
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Post by cousindupree on Jan 24, 2016 13:07:24 GMT
Think yesterday showed all the talk of European football is pie in the sky, we're way behind West Ham etc. We're better than last season but until we address the lack of goals we are going nowhere. Way behind as in 3 points? Wouldn't say way behind but any thoughts of Europe qualification via the league seem delusional, the reality is we are an inconsistent midtable side capable of decent performances and even more capable of performances like yesterday. We really have had way too many shite days at the office to consider ourselves top 6/7. I would say West Ham, Palace Leicester and probably Everton will all finish above us. Our best hope of euro qualification is clearly Tuesday rather than the league so glad Bojan and Arnie didn't figure yesterday, huge 2/3 games coming up |
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 24, 2016 13:10:12 GMT
Way behind as in 3 points? Wouldn't say way behind but any thoughts of Europe qualification via the league seem delusional, the reality is we are an inconsistent midtable side capable of decent performances and even more capable of performances like yesterday. We really have had way too many shite days at the office to consider ourselves top 6/7. I would say West Ham, Palace Leicester and probably Everton will all finish above us. Our best hope of euro qualification is clearly Tuesday rather than the league so glad Bojan and Arnie didn't figure yesterday, huge 2/3 games coming up Take Payet out of West Ham and they've struggled, like Palace are doing now without Bolasie. Take our best players out and we've struggled. There is much of a muchness around where we are. |
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Post by Gods on Jan 24, 2016 13:11:23 GMT
I think we are bang average for this league and will finish somewhere in the range 8th to 12th.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 24, 2016 13:21:05 GMT
Indeed and your point yesterday that simply hounding Wilson was missing the point about the Leicester game was spot on too. The very essence of this season's Premier League has been the ability of every single team to look the real deal one week and dog shite the next. Certainly true of us. Some of the reactions we are seeing and suggested remedies are breath taking though. You must see that we need another bastard winger though? Surely? I'm interested in bringing in any player in any position that is an improvement on what we have got. Another way of putting it is that I am only interested in seeing us make marquee signings who will be first team regulars and capable of improving the quality another notch. Whether that type of player becomes available in this window or we have to wait until the summer remains to be seen. Im definitely not interested in bringing in a sticking plaster who will be adequate for the short term while we get everyone firing again but will ultimately end up sitting in the stand or on the bench at best. We have plenty of them. As far as a winger is concerned that rule applies and when you consider that our most potent combination features Arnie and Shaq as the width supported by Johnson and Erik bombing on it is going to have to be some player to be worth our while. It certainly rules out players such as Townsend as I have seen mentioned. The club has enough makeweights to lose from the squad without kneejerk additions of the likes I have seen mentioned. We are not about needing squad players anymore. We are about upping the quality window after window. As I said it is going to be a hell of a player who will improve on Arnie and Shaq so if we don't bring in a winger I wont lose a moments sleep. A makeweight will only block the path of some promising young player or two. |
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