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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2016 15:57:20 GMT
Hughes clearly doesn't think we need another one. I just can't see the logic behind this? We go from having two excellent ones with pace and trickery to Walters and Wingie. They're vitally important to our attacking play and have to be good footballers with pace. Not to have suitable back up seems very odd at best. Walters is excellent as something a bit different but I don't just get the rationale behind only having 2 wingers. Its been like this now since last January when Assaidi left.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Feb 1, 2016 16:00:09 GMT
Im shocked we don't seem to look for one. Especially since we know Arnie can blow hot and cold and so far Shaq has done okay but we still need more from him.
I really wished we had a u-21 player we could call on and try and blood if we're not going to have a proper first team back up winger.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 1, 2016 16:01:36 GMT
Any names in particular?
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Post by dieguito88 on Feb 1, 2016 16:01:44 GMT
Im shocked we don't seem to look for one. Especially since we know Arnie can blow hot and cold and so far Shaq has done okay but we still need more from him. I really wished we had a u-21 player we could call on and try and blood if we're not going to have a proper first team back up winger. Moha and Verlinden my shots for the long period. But now they aren't ready.
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Post by YounginStoke on Feb 1, 2016 16:02:13 GMT
Gray would have been ideal.
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Post by nutterpotter on Feb 1, 2016 16:04:36 GMT
Winger > Striker
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2016 16:05:32 GMT
Gutted we didn't go for Gray tbh. Cheap, young, fast, can play on either side, willing to learn. Would have been ideal.
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Post by badger on Feb 1, 2016 16:11:16 GMT
Completely left field but looks like Robinho's agent been angling for a premier league return for him. Spoken to Leicester & Swansea apparently, out of contract after a spell in China. He's 32 now but worth a short term punt?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Feb 1, 2016 16:12:31 GMT
Gutted we didn't go for Gray tbh. Cheap, young, fast, can play on either side, willing to learn. Would have been ideal. My only hope Bayern is that he's got somebody else in mind for the younger winger spot? Didn't Verlinden's dad say he may have chance at first team football before the end of the season. i don't know how and there's been little evidence to suggest Hughes is willing to give the younger lads a chance but surely Coates must have said giving youth a chance is part of his job when he hired him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 16:13:37 GMT
Bojan or Afellay could play out wide if required, not ideal in my opinion but they're talented players and would do a decent job as short term cover.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2016 16:15:54 GMT
Gutted we didn't go for Gray tbh. Cheap, young, fast, can play on either side, willing to learn. Would have been ideal. My only hope Bayern is that he's got somebody else in mind for the younger winger spot? Didn't Verlinden's dad say he may have chance at first team football before the end of the season. i don't know how and there's been little evidence to suggest Hughes is willing to give the younger lads a chance but surely Coates must have said giving youth a chance is part of his job when he hired him. He did but they all do! He looks a good player but he's 16 and if he isn't he's only just turned 17, it would go against everything Hughes has done for us and pretty much in his career.
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Post by nutterpotter on Feb 1, 2016 16:16:44 GMT
Considering Verlinden is still playing for the U18s, he's nowhere near the first team.
Still got plenty of years ahead of him.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Feb 1, 2016 16:19:05 GMT
In which case then I'm fucked if I know the plan!
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 1, 2016 16:20:24 GMT
I genuinely think he wants "inside forwards". Hes tried to make Arnie run through the centre more and more this season vs. standing out on the touchline.
He expects the full-backs to make the crosses.
But agree, we need a pacey winger option from the bench if that is whats required. We are too slow and predictable
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2016 16:24:14 GMT
I genuinely think he wants "inside forwards". Hes tried to make Arnie run through the centre more and more this season vs. standing out on the touchline. He expects the full-backs to make the crosses. But agree, we need a pacey winger option from the bench if that is whats required. We are too slow and predictable We need to sign one of them buggers then. Although both Shaq and Arnie are proper wingers. And our full backs are mainly draculaish.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 1, 2016 16:29:31 GMT
Hughes clearly doesn't think we need another one. I just can't see the logic behind this? We go from having two excellent ones with pace and trickery to Walters and Wingie. They're vitally important to our attacking play and have to be good footballers with pace. Not to have suitable back up seems very odd at best. Walters is excellent as something a bit different but I don't just get the rationale behind only having 2 wingers. Its been like this now since last January when Assaidi left. If a winger Hughes wanted was available we'd be trying to sign him. Perhaps its as simple as there not being a wide player available that Hughes actually wants?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 16:30:24 GMT
A winger is the difference between a good window and a great window.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2016 16:31:08 GMT
Hughes clearly doesn't think we need another one. I just can't see the logic behind this? We go from having two excellent ones with pace and trickery to Walters and Wingie. They're vitally important to our attacking play and have to be good footballers with pace. Not to have suitable back up seems very odd at best. Walters is excellent as something a bit different but I don't just get the rationale behind only having 2 wingers. Its been like this now since last January when Assaidi left. If a winger Hughes wanted was available we'd be trying to sign him. Perhaps its as simple as there not being a wide player available that Hughes actually wants? He's had 12 months to sort it..... Considering how imo anyway we rely on them for our attacking play not having another pacy option is odd at best.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Feb 1, 2016 16:31:44 GMT
I genuinely think he wants "inside forwards". Hes tried to make Arnie run through the centre more and more this season vs. standing out on the touchline. He expects the full-backs to make the crosses. But agree, we need a pacey winger option from the bench if that is whats required. We are too slow and predictable We need to sign one of them buggers then. Although both Shaq and Arnie are proper wingers. And our full backs are mainly draculaish. You won't let it lie will you? I agree about Gray but when the league leaders come calling what can you do? Even Shaqiri isn't an out and out winger, as evidenced by his role with Switzerland. As I've said elsewhere, if we play a pacy striker up front (which we haven't been doing) then the lack of an orthodox winger on one side can be accommodated. Afellay is good in a wide midfield spot and could operate there reasonably well. Anyway, if Arnie fails to sign a new contract our requirement becomes a little more desperate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 1, 2016 16:33:22 GMT
We need to sign one of them buggers then. Although both Shaq and Arnie are proper wingers. And our full backs are mainly draculaish. You won't let it lie will you? I agree about Gray but when the league leaders come calling what can you do? Even Shaqiri isn't an out and out winger, as evidenced by his role with Switzerland. As I've said elsewhere, if we play a pacy striker up front (which we haven't been doing) then the lack of an orthodox winger on one side can be accommodated. Afellay is good in a wide midfield spot and could operate there reasonably well. Anyway, if Arnie fails to sign a new contract our requirement becomes a little more desperate. It really pisses me off that when one of them is out we have to use some sub standard sort who isn't suited to what we need. Such a massive shame. A bench of Haugaard Muni Cameron Afellay Winger Walters Joselu is easily achievable and pretty sexy. (I'd have Muni in the side obvs ). And we have every position covered.
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Post by superheroantonius on Feb 1, 2016 16:44:48 GMT
All very odd.. I don't know anyone who doesn't think Zaha was the difference on Saturday. Pieters had no chance of getting up the pitch like Bards. There was one moment when he seemed to cover half the pitch in about 2 seconds. He can't have as that's impossible but he was super quick and a nightmare to play against
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Post by trickydicky73 on Feb 1, 2016 16:56:40 GMT
I'd go for Matt Philips, if only to scupper Pulis's plans. He's good, too, which is nice.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Feb 1, 2016 17:02:55 GMT
Not signing one could really bite us in the arse.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 2, 2016 0:06:14 GMT
Not signing one could really bite us in the arse. Don't tell MarkWolstanton that.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Feb 2, 2016 0:14:14 GMT
Bit of a gamble, if either Shaq or Arnie get injured then we'll look short, on the other hand now we are out of both cups and past the mental Christmas period fixture wise we can perhaps settle into a more fixed XI.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Feb 2, 2016 0:51:34 GMT
You can only assume that the right player never really became available.
It's surely one that'll be addressed in the summer though you would have thought.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 2, 2016 0:55:55 GMT
You can only assume that the right player never really became available. It's surely one that'll be addressed in the summer though you would have thought. Over 3 windows? If we're waiting for Yarmolenko then........ I think we'll want him but fook me. We just need some quick bastard to slot in every now and again.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 2, 2016 0:59:57 GMT
Totally agree although Diouf does a decent job on the right.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Feb 2, 2016 1:21:16 GMT
You can only assume that the right player never really became available. It's surely one that'll be addressed in the summer though you would have thought. Over 3 windows? If we're waiting for Yarmolenko then........ I think we'll want him but fook me. We just need some quick bastard to slot in every now and again. I know, but even though he's not my cup of tea on the wing, Walters is usually good for 6/7 goals a season. Then there's Odemwingie who was coming back but never quite hit the heights. You'd assume if we had identified a winger and it was a doable deal then Wingie would have gone and the new guy brought in. I agree with what you're saying but we need to shift some weight this summer before bringing more in.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 2, 2016 1:24:02 GMT
Over 3 windows? If we're waiting for Yarmolenko then........ I think we'll want him but fook me. We just need some quick bastard to slot in every now and again. I know, but even though he's not my cup of tea on the wing, Walters is usually good for 6/7 goals a season. Then there's Odemwingie who was coming back but never quite hit the heights. You'd assume if we had identified a winger and it was a doable deal then Wingie would have gone and the new guy brought in. I agree with what you're saying but we need to shift some weight this summer before bringing more in. He is but without two technically excellent and quick wingers we do become toothless, he does a job but we need more than that. He should never have been given a new deal ditto Crouch. There's the room for the winger.
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