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Post by mozzer on Jan 19, 2019 10:01:54 GMT
No proof what so ever and only my view but.......
Reading between the lines and statements made by our new manager wholesale changes are ahead,
JM just does not fit well with SCFC or it's fans, if he was a star player/performer then most of the shit that travels with him would be tolerated and excused, being a tryer in a shit side excuses nothing, he is no more than a bang average, head down, run as fast as you can, go nowhere player, he gives his all and it does show but Jesus we need some players who can contribute more than effort, we have a useless bunch of shit sitting in the reserves that collectively have cost the club a fortune that would give 100%and are not good enough....
Then there's the shit storm that follows the man, it's just not worth it. Nah if the rumours are indeed true he is a dead man walking and MON will be welcome to him for me
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Post by mozzer on Jan 17, 2019 7:34:54 GMT
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Post by mozzer on Jan 16, 2019 21:23:26 GMT
Fucking marvellous eh!! We had a centre half in every position other than the keeper under Pulis, now we can't find one
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Post by mozzer on Jan 15, 2019 22:48:48 GMT
He actually said he was shocked at the way we fell apart Critical of some of the defending Critical that players missed very good chances to put the game to bed (referred to McLean and Ince) Positive comments re Charlie and Tyrese Players without much game time were tiring - why not make that 3rd substitution? I feel sorry for him, he needs support in the remaining days of the transfer window He will also need the support of the fans That's the only way now! It's the players who are on the pitch, not any manager. Since we've performed under the expectations so far this season, I think what happened after an hour was they became anxious and nervous about actually keeping hold of this win, and therefore they lost. It's about their self-confidence now. In Sweden it's popular with mental coaches. Do they have one? Seriously. We have had a few mental coaches mate, well fucking mental
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Post by mozzer on Jan 15, 2019 22:43:32 GMT
That defence is an utter liability, give the lad a chance We got relegated wondering what might of been last season by continuing down the same sorry route and trying nothing different.....we aren’t going down I know but throw him in We need 4 defenders before we even think about other areas I agree because it really can’t be niche rise but we also have to create an environment for him to be succsssful. Playing him alongside anyone who is a part of this shambles won’t help him at all. I just hope you two are safe and sound behind locked doors at this time of night. Been reading bad things in the local paper about how rough the area is with Ferral youth running amok. You are always welcome back in the more sedate surroundings of upper Bucknall werrington and wippy
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Post by mozzer on Jan 15, 2019 22:35:56 GMT
Sit back lads we have this won
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Post by mozzer on Jan 15, 2019 22:26:34 GMT
We are an absolute shambles, but luckily for us there are some really wank teams down the bottom. Like Bolton, you mean? Yeah we absolutely battered them. We just softened them up for the team that played them the week after What was that score again 🤐🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Post by mozzer on Jan 15, 2019 22:21:33 GMT
Hell no!!!
There's loads more to come yet, hold on tight cup cake it's going to be one he'll of a ride
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Post by mozzer on Jan 15, 2019 22:09:14 GMT
Well played Stoke, a fantastic performance against a well marshalled team who would have beat anyone in the football pyramid with that performance tonight.
Unlucky to concede a two goal lead against a team that have cost millions to put together, luckily it's only Leeds on Saturday and we should walk that one with the way that we are currently playing,
We dust ourselves down and go again, Bauer has made a differance so fingers crossed
Come on Stoke,
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Post by mozzer on Jan 13, 2019 11:22:33 GMT
Great post i have sat on the fence regards Gary Rowett. But after reading this forum since August last year it is like dejavu the defence is rubbish and Gary Rowett realised this and put in place a system to stop the team being relegated you should thank your lucky stars he did this and you will find unless we sign 6 new defenders / midfielders Nathan Jones will be in the same situation he will need to play the same style as Gary Rowett or we will be relegated thank god we had Gary Rowett to steady the ship and stop moaning Spot on, Rowett was and always will be a manager that employs cautious tactics and formations but........ His hand was forced with the players at his disposal with the recent run of games, the problem I have with Rowett is that he had enough time to see the problems and fix those problems before we were stuck with a closed transfer window. People thought we would do well because when we were relegated we were a premier league team, bollocks, we were a team that had played in the premier league and that's as close as it gets, if Rowett had stopped us going down this year it was a massive result and now the same with Jones, he now knows what a bag of spanners he has inherited as a defence, he has woken up this morning and thought "fuck me I have a big problem, a lot bigger problem than I thought" it's not just the defence, Brentford made us look stupid yesterday at the back but we made ourselves look stupid up front, a total toothless display second half using defensive tactics but also a gutless and toothless display first half using more of van attacking formation, cracking goal though on one of our two shots on target that we managed in the first halve verses Brentford eight shots on target. Fingers crossed Jones can sort his part whilst the club get their own house in order although from his press comments nothing will change as he has said he is happy with the way transfers are run. Oh well we can only hope
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Post by mozzer on Jan 13, 2019 11:05:43 GMT
Brilliant, that's funny as fuck. He just seems a typical lad from stoke on trent if I have to be honest, good at winding people up and good at the banter, loves a night on the beer with his mates in the local pubs rather than some aloof tart that thinks Cheshire is the centre of the universe, possibly if we as a club had made it part of our players contracts when we sign them that they have to live within the boundary of stoke on trent we would have local business that would have benefited from the cash that was flowing through the club, perhaps even areas that would now be developed in to executive developments that could attract wealth and money in to the area. The pies will deffinately not eat themselves so let's get moving, the funny thing is they call us lardies yet they are exactly the same people as us, its not like they are living any distance from us..... They are just the less bright of this city, the undateables, the lower social class, the bottom feeders, burger flippers, toilet attendents,the under achievers that had double colouring in when we were having double maths, or double shopping when we were in a double physics lesson, let them have their fun whilst they throw stones at the moon, Port Vales fans are just Stoke fans with their brains removed..... There you go...banter
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Post by mozzer on Jan 10, 2019 7:33:07 GMT
And this thread is all that is wrong with today's football, can't do with the vale or it's fans but this lad is having a bit of good old fashioned banter and also giving a back handed compliment to the club yet there are people on here that want to drag his social life up
Did any one care what hudson, banks and Marsh were doing a night before a game because I can assure you they were no angels, a local lad playing for the club he supports and loves with possibly a wild side and people knock him
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Post by mozzer on Jan 9, 2019 12:55:53 GMT
Who????
Nathan Jones......
Nathan Jones......as in "Hes been gone too long"
Love bananarama
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Post by mozzer on Jan 6, 2019 13:00:12 GMT
Some of the vitriol towards Rowett has been cringeworthy and embarrassing. He’s trying to win football games - and not particularly doing a great job of it - but fuck me it’s not life or death...... Try to win it!! Are you sure? I would say he's trying not to lose it rather then win them and that's being kind to him! Job far to big for him , made worse by the set up above, and not helping himself with selection, formation, signings and interviews! We were and are no way near good enough to get promoted, but he is in no way making a fight of it , and not helping to make himself likeable to many fans.... Expected more from him but on reflection poor appointment! Just about sums up my OP in 4 lines
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Post by mozzer on Jan 6, 2019 12:55:43 GMT
You use the words "Venom and Hatred" in the title, and use "venom and vitriol" in the first line of your post. Dictionary definitions include: Venom- "extreme bitterness" Vitriol- "bitter criticism" Both the above would seem justifiable to many of those who love Stoke City and have supported it for many years, in some cases at great personal expense, in the light of all the things you then go on the enumerate in the remainder of you lengthy post. I have been highly critical since September on this MB, but do not hate Rowett, and have never engaged in swearing or foul language. The Board made a an error when they chose to appoint him, a decision I welcomed like many other fair-minded fans, but rapidly came to realize was a serious error as Rowett is clearly not up to the task. It is hardly surprising that those who have paid to endure his style of football, traveled long distances in some cases, and then listen to his criticism of his own employees and the fans have lost their patience and posted in the manner you describe. Their feelings are to sympathised not criticised. I was of the view that the priority in being relegated was to avoid going through the trap door to the 3rd tier. None the less whilst an immediate return to the Premier league would have been highly improbable, it was not impossible. Rowett has been give every support possible by the club including support coaches, players re-signed, new players he wanted and plenty of time. He has not only failed in his business objective, but managed to alienate everyone in the process with his pronouncements. It is hardly surprising people have lost their cool and engaged in the way they have. There it is then all justified, its possibly because I did not renew my season ticket that would then enable me to join in with the current toxic cloud of poison around the club Or Was it because I am not a delusional gimp that thought SCFC were going to walk this league and my expectations have or are becoming fact as the season moves forward I suggest you look at the bigger picture it's not all Rowett there are other factors at play here and what ever manager moves in will have all the same issues to deal with
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Post by mozzer on Jan 6, 2019 11:55:08 GMT
I thought this on NYD, I've barely seen hated opposition take abuse like that. The man that essentially got us relegated never got anywhere near as much abuse either. Rowett is to blame for the turgid football, but so are the players themselves. And the board of directors
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Post by mozzer on Jan 6, 2019 11:40:14 GMT
Is it just me who thinks that the venom and vitriol being directed at the current manager is totally unbalanced for the results and performances so far this season, before you jump in with a no he deserves all he gets just bear me out, I agree something requires a addressing with the current problem but should it really have come to this, should it really have gone on to the point that the natives are revolting and actually forcing the club to make changes,
Firstly it is easy for me to say because I withdrew my season ticket purchase to allow me to pick and choose games due to the utter shite served up for the last two years prior to relegation, towards the end of the nightmare season it was actually a better choice to remain in the pub with my ticket unused in my pocket at financial cost to myself but....
Were people that deluded to really think that we would be challenging for promotion this year with the shambles of a club that we had become, a club that became the laughing stock of the football world with the regular drubbing and score lines that we received, a team that was abused and hounded by its own so called supporters on its return to Stoke station after playing Spurs away, a debacle that I actually attended and walked out just after half time as it was that bad, no really it was that bad but I was also there to witness the hatred directed at Butland and Shawcross along with Hughes whilst a lonely looking whimmer sloped off to an awaiting car totally unscathed, a team that required a minimum of 8 first team players to stop the rot of a double relegation et Al Sunderland, a team that wasted so much money building a squad of no hoppers in imbula, badou, whimmer and Berahino, in my opinion if we were to avoid relegation this year we have done brilliantly and is a step in the right direction to fixing a small part of this deeply damaged football club.
Smudge said not so long ago that he thought the club was not as rotten as people were saying and is a club that still has a lot to look forward to, he probably still stands by that line and I will accept his point of view but personally I think that the club is rotten from top to bottom and has been for over 3 years now, no matter who the manager is we will still have massive problems to sort and over come before we can even start to dream about any relative success out on the pitch, I agree 100% Rowetts team lacks any creative visual flare but the start of the season we were leaking goals just like in the prem, he fixed that just like Lambert managed to do by using the midfield and taking all the attacking supply lines from the strikers meaning we are toothless up front, Rowett is a manager who is going out to not lose as a priority but hopes luck will allow us to win hence all the draws, Pulis was hounded for this approach and here we are again, Lambert tried it and now Rowett is giving it a go, just dont lose guys don't lose.
As for Bauer and Bojan being used against Rowett I despair with some of the comments on here,
There is no bigger Bojan fan than me and I can honestly say when he was on form he was the best modern day player I have seen in a Stoke shirt, just remember though that when he first arrived he was shocking and invisable out on that pitch, it took him a fair few games to get going to the player we remember and all hope to have back in a Stoke shirt, I would love to see the Bojan of pre Rochdale rather than the player that he wad first half of his first season...but unfortunately that's what we have now, Bojan has had 4 maybe 5 different managers to give him a chance since his time at Stoke, this is all from memory but Lambert could have recalled him from his loan I think hence maybe 5 managers, I know that there were things going on in the background for Bojans time away from the club but here was a player getting some game time away from Stoke and we were facing a certain relegation, with this threat hanging over us and a new manager in place Lambert chose not to bring him back, what other reasons were there for Lamberts descion, we were in trouble and needed all hands on deck so why do you think this decision was taken, was it taken by Lambert or were his hads tied and if so by whom if the manager is calling the shots on the playing staff, unfortunately Bojan has not become that success he once was, my view is he is a confidence player and struggles with a bit part in the team, he should have been given a run after his goal at Rotherham but Rowett knew that we would ship goals again hence he shored up the midfield by sidelining Bojan, since then Bojan has disapeared again and is not even included in the match day squad of late, whys is this then......think long and hard before you answer
As for Bauer....I was there that night at OT when he made his debut under Ned long name with Lambert sitting in the stand, Bauer was a star in the shit show and looked awesome going forward even though we yet again conceded 3 or 4, Bauer then became a regular under Lambert, he looked ok in his system and then signed a new 5 year deal after we were relegated so what has gone wrong, well firstly look at the month he signed his new deal did Rowett agree to this or even know any thing about it as these deals are not done in a day, then look at the first few results when Bauer played and how we now play as a team with the shape Rowett employs, is it a million miles from Lamberts when Baur was doing ok...then look at the fall out that was made public and the on going exclusion along with Bojan, so not in the squad or any mention of late for either of them, think of Inces words about fans calling for players but there are other factors at play, think of Shawcrosses words about the return of dressing room harmony
Nah, Gary Rowett has not been as successful as some of the dreamers wish, he has spent shed loads, the squads pay is in excess of most if not all of the chamionship, we are boring to watch, our tippy tappy football is in the main ineffective in this league but we were a basket case of a club and that is what it took to get us on an even keel, if we avoid relegation this year we can move on and try to rebuild...with or with out Rowett but who ever it is or who ever it will be going forward the majority of problems will remain within the club and the manager has a job and half on his hands to be successful, it is said the minimum requirment of the team from the owners is the play offs, well my minimum requirment from the owners is as guardians of my club is to run it with purpose and pride, not to sleep walk in to relegation from the biggest cash cow in the sporting world by sanctioning minimum investment to keep the team just in the league, sort the behind scenes problems and give us all something to enjoy and want to be part of.
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Post by mozzer on Jan 2, 2019 13:30:49 GMT
Although the club has tried to sort out the problems within the dressing room there are still massive problems at the club that are well known through the circuit of players and ex pros, hence all the alluding and hinting going on within the media from certain quarters but without the deffinate killer blow to come out straight and tell people what they are..... You are not a million miles off with your post but it's fuck all do with not being able to drop certain players, the manager can drop who he wants within reason. So fucking say what it is or stop fuelling the fire with this innuendo bull shit. How about I don't fucking say what it is and I keep fuelling the fire with the facts that I know rather than most of the bullshit spouted on here, it's the club's problem they got in to it they are continuing with it they can sort it Or.... do I take your mr angry bait and spill my guts on a 2 bit message board and ruin years of friendship with a Good mate because I am getting called out by a no mark keyboard warrior. Nah, I wouldn't spout but with that attitude i think I will leave you to simmer in your own juices and let you try work it out Yeah I'm full of shit, I hope that helps calm you down a liitle
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Post by mozzer on Jan 2, 2019 11:01:47 GMT
Oh my god!! We have become that bad that we have people thinking Diouf is the answer
It was down to descions like this that got us relegated, Diouf should be no where near the first team not even a match day ball boy sitting near the dugouts
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Post by mozzer on Jan 2, 2019 10:39:43 GMT
I think the present manager and last two managers have been forced to play players that they don't won't to play, is the problem. The undropables Although the club has tried to sort out the problems within the dressing room there are still massive problems at the club that are well known through the circuit of players and ex pros, hence all the alluding and hinting going on within the media from certain quarters but without the deffinate killer blow to come out straight and tell people what they are..... You are not a million miles off with your post but it's fuck all do with not being able to drop certain players, the manager can drop who he wants within reason.
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Post by mozzer on Jan 1, 2019 17:21:55 GMT
Pep mumble Guardiola wouldn't sort this lot out
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Post by mozzer on Jan 1, 2019 17:19:51 GMT
What's all the fuss about
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Post by mozzer on Jan 1, 2019 17:01:51 GMT
Pity we conceded the 2 goals otherwise another valuable point in the bag to stave off relegation.
Oh well let's pick ourselves up and go again.
Gary Rowetts red and white army
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Post by mozzer on Jan 1, 2019 13:10:46 GMT
The chairman of Huddersfield Town has come out with the most bizarre statement that will do nothing but wind up the fans
And I quote "We will not sleepwalk in to relegation from the premier league and will do all we can to address the situation"
Really, is that any type of statement to give fans hope
What's up with a good old "I can not see what all the fuss is about"
They should then follow that up by making embarrassing approaches to continental managers who will publically turn them down and go for third choice aging dinosaures and settle for nearly done it but no hope championship managers to nail down that coffin lid
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Post by mozzer on Dec 30, 2018 11:35:10 GMT
Don't know what you are all moaning at.... Clean sheet away from home and yet another point towards safety
oh well you all hated binary football if I remember correctly and no one was impressed when we were watching 4 go past us every 6 weeks, avoiding relegation is a plus point for the new scfc of the last 3 years.
Start looking at how the ship is being steered not the route it is taking, 6 years of being a stable well run club to a joke of a club.
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Post by mozzer on Dec 3, 2018 12:24:01 GMT
What a complete crock of crap
A total Knee jerk reaction by Southampton,
I know that Mark could have steered them out of trouble as he is a genius of a manager with tactics, substitutions and transfers.
Southampton, shame on you making a decision so ruthlessly you should have at least waited until January and with only a week to go in the transfer market,
"I really do not see what all the fuss is about"
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Post by mozzer on Nov 17, 2018 9:48:07 GMT
Lots of memories, Jolly Carter 2000, getting into the Huntsman 89, KFC Burslem all after home games, The American, Bell and bear Shelton, Chicago Rock cafe, hitting the Huntsman after West Brom away 90s, next month will see lots of old grizzlies on their best behaviour and lots of kids without a clue how to replicate the old days a few flares thrown and a few plastic cups will no doubt get hurt in the process Do we know each other Bristol, a couple of them incidents that you list above were attended by a few select and very close faces from that time and a few of those instances were the same faces at each. You have me thinking Bristol,
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Post by mozzer on Nov 10, 2018 10:31:45 GMT
It's been done to death this subject and I am propper bored of the subject but unfortunately it is here to stay He should not have been signed simple as that and the people that bought him here want sacking as they are obviously out of touch with the majority of the fan base. He is not a good player that's the crux of it full stop. Now pile on the shit storm that he brings when he arrives. It is not just about the poppy ffs, let the poppy issue go he won't wear one and he shouldn't have to if he doesn't want to, just don't pick him for the team, give him a weeks holiday, it's easy He should not be castigating supporters even though some do deserve it, he is a public figure and as such should rise above it and complain to the relevant departments He should not be quoting his IRA idols in statements regarding the club or it's supporters, he is poking the proverbial bear and he knows it, I actually think he enjoys the vitriol and attention or he is just plain stupid He is welcome to his views but should bury his more contentious beliefs in a country that has been so affected by everything that they stand for, there is still a northern ireland divide and with people like him there always will be, tell me about iniskillen, the sentiment behind that then try to justify that action as true to the cause. Being pictured with Martin IRA mcguiness plus his message of support is going to add petrol to his fire and does him no good at all, this compounded with his poppy stance is a recipe for the attention that he receives If he wants to play here, fine, don't where your poppy, fine....but ffs show some respect to the anthem and flag you decided to earn your money living under or at least sit in the dressing room until 5 mins after kick off and the crowds focus has diverted..... It's not JUST about a poppy and until we drop the whole poppy issue the world will not see the bigger picture of why he is such a figure head for abuse and vitrol from people at football, the poppy issue is actually starting to give him the upper hand in all this and make it a campaign of abuse that he gets for exercising his right to apply what the poppy actually stands for which is respect and freedom
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Post by mozzer on Nov 5, 2018 7:28:04 GMT
I love happy clappers
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Post by mozzer on Nov 4, 2018 12:47:57 GMT
Oh I am loving this thread, let's summarise the thread.....
Bang average footballer signs for stoke Bang average footballer has very controversial beliefs The said player is not to bright in his actions at previous clubs Player causes controversy at every club he has played for Players outspoken and contraversial beliefs divide the support....
Supporters take sides pre match and a war of words ensue Supporters take sides during match and another war of words ensue Supporters take sides post match and another war of words ensue Page 5 of the thread sends support in to meltdown with Instagram repost Bang average player shows how bright he actually is by rising to the bait from two sets of fans Player quotes Bobby sands to back up his condemnation Fans quickly forget how average he is and condemn his political views One side of the argument has gone a little quite
Can't wait for the next installment, this is priceless
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