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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 10:09:22 GMT
I have absolutely no issue with it and completely respect his stance personally......
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 30, 2018 10:10:58 GMT
As expected.
This was baked in when we signed him, and we all knew it'd be the case.
I have absolutely no problem with it. Nothing to see here.
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Post by eddyclamp on Oct 30, 2018 10:13:14 GMT
I agree with you Prestwich , I just wonder how many of the people that will give him dogs abuse will actually be wearing a poppy themselves?
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 30, 2018 10:14:47 GMT
Judge him by his performances on the pitch.
He is a very over paid, very over priced, very, very average player.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 30, 2018 10:15:49 GMT
He can do what he wants
That’s why my 18 year old grand father fought at Jutland for
and my uncles at Dunkirk Normandy and North Africa so people like him have the freedom of choice
But I do hope he’ll be a unused sub in both games
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 30, 2018 10:16:09 GMT
I'll be more pissed off if he's on the pitch, couldn't care less about him not wearing a poppy.
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Post by Gods on Oct 30, 2018 10:17:19 GMT
It's entirely up to him, freedom is what our soldiers fought for.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 30, 2018 10:20:21 GMT
Up to him.
My issue is he’s a fucking wank footballer, one of the worst I’ve seen in recent memory in fact.
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Post by RAF on Oct 30, 2018 10:27:09 GMT
I'm more bothered that he is fucking wank.
After all that is what he asked us all to judge him on
That is his right provided by the people who the poppy was initially meant to represent.
Ironic
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Post by knowingeye on Oct 30, 2018 10:36:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 10:45:52 GMT
Judge him on his performances?
It might be less abusive to the lad if we go down the poppy route...
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Post by george2again on Oct 30, 2018 10:51:50 GMT
Lets hope his shirt is covered up with a track suit and it does not come off as he sits on the bench for the rest of the season. Funny how the poppy issue has become very secondary to his ability as a footballer now we have all seen him play. This is a big issue for Rowett because we sadly need another wide player/striker desperately because of his pursuit of this excuse of a footballer.
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Post by stokienorthants on Oct 30, 2018 10:53:05 GMT
He can wear ISIS underpants if he chooses but beyond all of this political nonsense he’s a shit footballer who brings nothing to our club.
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Post by raythesailor on Oct 30, 2018 10:53:20 GMT
We floged this to death when we signed him.
Personaly very dissapointed in his performances and how GR continues to play him.
Hopefully he won’t be playing for a few games so it won’t matter.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 30, 2018 11:02:18 GMT
We all said he is not good enough to be worth all the flack around the poppy wearing.
It has proven to be thus. Hes stolen a living as a Premier League footballers for years
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Post by stokiejohn60 on Oct 30, 2018 11:13:16 GMT
Why bother with this again .
Shit Bin please Admin ...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 11:25:01 GMT
I’m actually amazed how some posts are deleted and some get to stay considering people go on about a democracy and individual liberty!!
Some need training on the British values it seems
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Post by ProctorDre on Oct 30, 2018 11:25:49 GMT
Did anybody expect differently? No.
Is it his right to not wear one if he wishes not to? Yes
Does this need bringing up AGAIN on here? No - fuck it off to the shitbin.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 30, 2018 11:26:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 11:27:47 GMT
Did anybody expect differently? No. Is it his right to not wear one if he wishes not to? Yes Does this need bringing up AGAIN on here? No - fuck it off to the shitbin. Both he and the club deemed it worthy of making a statement, arguably if they hadn't it wouldn't be newsworthy in the slightest. But they did..... |
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Post by ProctorDre on Oct 30, 2018 11:29:40 GMT
Did anybody expect differently? No. Is it his right to not wear one if he wishes not to? Yes Does this need bringing up AGAIN on here? No - fuck it off to the shitbin. Both he and the club deemed it worthy of making a statement, arguably if they hadn't it wouldn't be newsworthy in the slightest. But they did..... Which was also not needed. Just whips up all the boo boys and the hatred for him. Just say nothing and let him get on with it. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 30, 2018 11:33:34 GMT
Both he and the club deemed it worthy of making a statement, arguably if they hadn't it wouldn't be newsworthy in the slightest. But they did..... Which was also not needed. Just whips up all the boo boys and the hatred for him. Just say nothing and let him get on with it. No they've done the right thing. Addressed it head on and made the fine point about the British Legion being the first to defend anyone who does not want to wear a poppy, regardless of the reason. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Oct 30, 2018 11:35:25 GMT
I agree with you Prestwich , I just wonder how many of the people that will give him dogs abuse will actually be wearing a poppy themselves? When the holier than though begin their sermon about wearing a poppy in memory of the millions upon millions of lost or injured Servicemen & women from all sides, maybe they should take a look at their local War memorials. Every City, Town & even the smallest village has one or more. Take a look at the fallen names and ages , then just step back a bit further and look at what a absolute disgrace the majority of them are ! The once pristine stonework probably hasn’t been washed and brushed for years, the manicured gardens,borders & rockeries have been left and overgrown, protective ironwork barriers left to rust away ? And you think that howling at a man who is brave enough to stand up for his principles is a way of honouring the fallen ? It’s just over a week to the centenary of armistice day, so save your energy from heckling and booing, and get out and help to tidy up the memorials. p.s. Irishmen from both sides of the border have served with distinction in both wars, even though the republic is a neutral country. |
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Post by ProctorDre on Oct 30, 2018 11:36:37 GMT
Which was also not needed. Just whips up all the boo boys and the hatred for him. Just say nothing and let him get on with it. No they've done the right thing. Addressed it head on and made the fine point about the British Legion being the first to defend anyone who does not want to wear a poppy, regardless of the reason. Disagree completely, while the statement was a good one all things considered, it's still not needed. Have a look at the state of the replies to it on twitter. All it does is is bring up negative attention. The people who get so angry about this won't listen to any reasoning at all from the British Legion or anyone. It's a no win situation by putting out a statement, regardless of how good or well worded it is. Sometimes it's better to say nout. |
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Post by Admin on Oct 30, 2018 11:40:05 GMT
I’m actually amazed how some posts are deleted and some get to stay considering people go on about a democracy and individual liberty!! Some need training on the British values it seems We don't need a lecture about British values from you thank you very much. |
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Post by wuzza on Oct 30, 2018 11:42:45 GMT
Complete non issue.
Freedom of choice / conscience is the bedrock of any civilised nation.
Hope the lad finds his form soon because there is a genuinely useful Championship player in there that could play an important part of this campaign.
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Post by RAF on Oct 30, 2018 11:43:34 GMT
Isn't it fucking amazing that he is defended as having his 'rights' for his beliefs but if anyone disagrees they are holier than though and trouble makers.
It's a pious fucktard stance at best.
He can think and believe what he wants, but you bring it to this particular audience you will get differing views.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 30, 2018 11:47:11 GMT
No they've done the right thing. Addressed it head on and made the fine point about the British Legion being the first to defend anyone who does not want to wear a poppy, regardless of the reason. Disagree completely, while the statement was a good one all things considered, it's still not needed. Have a look at the state of the replies to it on twitter. All it does is is bring up negative attention. The people who get so angry about this won't listen to any reasoning at all from the British Legion or anyone. It's a no win situation by putting out a statement, regardless of how good or well worded it is. Sometimes it's better to say nout. I dunno, I guess they can't win can they. If they'd said nowt, then speculation would have grown as the match arrived and they would have been accused of shirking it or trying to hide it. I think addressing it, in pretty strong and clear terms, might actually stave off any negativity. The club understand and support his decision, the British Legion always back these sort of decisions and the club continues to do great work with the British Legion and other forces groups. There's pretty much nothing for anyone to get their knickers in a twist about is there? |
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 30, 2018 11:47:54 GMT
He shouldn’t be anywhere near the starting eleven for it to even be an issue. I’m sure there is someone at the club who cleans the bogs or folds napkins that doesn’t support the Poppy and that is the context in which McLean needs to be viewed...part of the club,but very much in the background due to his shocking football ability.
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Post by ProctorDre on Oct 30, 2018 11:53:41 GMT
Disagree completely, while the statement was a good one all things considered, it's still not needed. Have a look at the state of the replies to it on twitter. All it does is is bring up negative attention. The people who get so angry about this won't listen to any reasoning at all from the British Legion or anyone. It's a no win situation by putting out a statement, regardless of how good or well worded it is. Sometimes it's better to say nout. I dunno, I guess they can't win can they. If they'd said nowt, then speculation would have grown as the match arrived and they would have been accused of shirking it or trying to hide it. I think addressing it, in pretty strong and clear terms, might actually stave off any negativity. The club understand and support his decision, the British Legion always back these sort of decisions and the club continues to do great work with the British Legion and other forces groups. There's pretty much nothing for anyone to get their knickers in a twist about is there? I dunno man, would there be speculation? He does it every year so you'd assume it would be a given now. I agree with what the club and the British Legion are saying completely, it's great. Unfortunately most people won't care and will be very narrow minded on this and hurl abuse. There isn't any reason for people to get their knickers in a twist, not at all, but unfortunately they will. With little understanding or knowledge either. |
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