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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 1, 2017 21:34:46 GMT
People on here really do need to get a fucking grip. This is getting pretty ridiculous now. In our last three games we played well and won comfortably against Middlesborough, played really well and deservedly drew away at Man City, and played well and lost narrowly to Chelsea, who are going to win the title. We played badly today and lost, away from home against a Leicester team that won the league last season and have just hit some good form. Reading some of the shit on here you would think we were in a relegation dogfight. We are 9 FFS! We have people making up stats and people making nonsensical comparisons with QPR. What I want to know is where are all you fuckers when we win? Where were you when we comfortably dispatched Boro or drew away at Man City? It is almost as if you have made up your minds, you are so determined to be right, that you are just sitting around waiting for the next defeat in order that you can feel good about yourselves? And I am fed up of listening to the whole 'I can have my opinion' bollocks. By telling you you are talking shite and being overly negative we are only exercising the same right. We won't be here forever. Sooner or later we will go the same way as all those other clubs, much bigger than Stoke, who are languishing in the lower divisions. Do you really want to look back on one of the most successful eras of this club and just remember sitting around constantly moaning and whining after every minor set back? Good points. But we got rid of a decent mid-table manager not so long ago. What's the difference.?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 1, 2017 21:08:59 GMT
There are good reasons why the Coates family might give some serious thought to sacking Hughes. The football since December 2015 has generally been poor, typified by our inability to beat a top half team. He inherited probably the best squad in the bottom half of the Prem, has spent a fortune adding to it, yet it now needs a clear-out and probably another massive spend to make us competitive next season. From the tens of millions he's spent on this lot - in fees and wages - how many look like guaranteed first-team starters, or even good signings? Berahino Ramadan Giannelli Imbula Xherdan Shaqiri Joe Allen Joselu Ramadan Sobhi Philipp Wollscheid Erik Pieters Marko Arnautovic Wilfried Bony Bojan Krkic Stephen Ireland Jakob Haugaard Mame Biram Diouf Victor Moses (loan) Phil Bardsley Glenn Johnson Marco Van Ginkel (loan) Marc Muniesa Bruno Martins Indi (loan) Shay Given Lee Grant Ibrahim Affelay Peter Odemwingie Assaidi Sidwell Texiera On the flip side of the coin there are the three 9th place finishes, along with some great football for a while (but not long enough) and the probability that we won't get relegated with Hughes at the helm. So if Coates makes the decision to sack Hughes, it'll be down to the quality of the football over the past 15 months and his transfer dealings. If Coates decides to keep Hughes and back him, it'll be because he'll trust him to secure the club as an asset in the gold mine that's the Premier League. My guess is that Hughes won't be sacked, but I'd be happy to be wrong and see someone brought in to bring a bit of excitement back to matchdays. If that was the case, the Coates family has the cash to think big and go for somebody like Ancellotti. That was a great post until you got to Ancelotti. Bloody ell mate ... how many bottles ?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 1, 2017 20:52:47 GMT
Did Robbie Savage say that about Pulis? Have you not seen the clip with the arsenal fan ringing up talk sport? Comedy gold No mate. About Pulis??
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 1, 2017 20:43:57 GMT
It will not happen this side of Christmas...but, if Coates does pull the trigger this Summer my short-list would be: Wagner Mancini Fulham boss Tony Pulis Stam Actually think that PC would go for Harry though .... with someone like Steve Bould as his assistant. As robbie savage would say TONY PULIS hahaha Manicini, pearson ranieiri, harry redknapp or big sam for me Did Robbie Savage say that about Pulis?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 1, 2017 20:28:23 GMT
There has been a lot of negativity on here recently, some of it is starting to piss me off as well. So why not try and pick some positives about the club. We are not in a relegation battle at all, we are starting to assemble a decent team with some exciting young players, we are sat in the top half of the best league in the world, we are having our stadium expanded, the teams we are currently below are, let's be honest, considerably better than us with the possible exception of west brom. Being a stoke fan has never been so good. Let's try and look into the positives of our great club, and look forward to next season, whoever the manager is. I personally hope it is Mark hughes. The next season could be something special, I really believe that, and I am normally a really negative cunt. The season has mostly been a pile of negative dross. Two unforgivable cup exits mixed with a few four goal thumpings and a baffling selection of team plans. Something is not right.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 1, 2017 20:06:09 GMT
It will not happen this side of Christmas...but, if Coates does pull the trigger this Summer my short-list would be: Wagner Mancini Fulham boss Tony Pulis Stam
Actually think that PC would go for Harry though .... with someone like Steve Bould as his assistant.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 7, 2017 22:44:25 GMT
I watch it,love to see the arse getting their annual spanking like tonight mind you i get it free if you know what i mean nudge nudge wink wink........ How much would you pay to see Lincoln win this weekend?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 7, 2017 22:39:05 GMT
Watching the Pathe film of the Stoke v Chelsea FA Cup tie (February 1934) the ground looks more or less the same as the very first aerial photo on the thread, apart from the extended roof on the Boothen Stand. There's obviously shallow banking behind the Stoke End goal. Have you approached the Club about their records and archives.? I do know that there is a library of photographs available in the archives for public information.
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Berahino
Mar 7, 2017 22:33:42 GMT
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 7, 2017 22:33:42 GMT
Can't for the life of me understand Hughes' game management. We are comfortably 2-0 up against a very poor team offering nothing and yet he brings Berahino on with 15 minutes to go. Today was an ideal time to give him at least half an hour. It is game time the lad needs to get up to speed. Contrast Hughes with Merinho, who is not afraid to change things at half time when he sees what is needed!! His subs are generally late and mystifying. BUT his subs when we are winning and looking comfortable are almost non-existent. He is clearly scared of changing things when in a winning position as we have seen a few times this season. Very poor squad management because when we are coasting its a great time to bring on a new or young player and let them play with more freedom. Bringing subs on when winning is always a good idea because the sub wants to get involved and prove a point. Bringing on Bojan when losing 4 nil on the other-hand is not what a substitute is generally looking forward to. Yes...agree His substitutions are a tad baffling to say the least. Seems an area of his management that perhaps needs some input from his assistants.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 7, 2017 21:12:26 GMT
Well, yeah, that goes without saying, I'd work out how to access BT Sport then of course, when I say gone, I mean in the national psyche, clearly it remains a valid competition for the fans of clubs which are in it. I think it is now a compromised one though. This is how they killed cricket, greed, right after England had won the ashes back after year and years too! Very true the final nail in the coffin would be the pan-european league. That would kill it for me. It's true abut cricket, I used to follow it religiously but now I couldn't even tell you who opens the batting for England Geoff Boycott
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 6, 2017 23:43:43 GMT
No ..I mean have you spoken to anyone. ?
No. The information they're offering publicly on their official website contradicts the stuff we've pieced together on this thread.
I'm hoping I'll find time over the next week or two to see what pictures they might have at the library and/or the Sentinel.
Are you saying the Club doesn't have some historical archive of ground development and photographs etc?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 6, 2017 23:38:35 GMT
Actually looking at it again I think the stand is slightly above pitch level so there may be a very very slight embankment there that it sits on, which maybe leading to what you were thinking, unless the pitch is dug down slightly. Either way I think the embankment was not only later expanded but also further built up where it previously already existed. It seems very high and steep in later life.
Yes I agree.
So next question ... are these two pictures showing the embankment prior to it being built up further then?
In the first picture you can clearly still see the roof, so they wouldn't (indeed couldn't) have built up the bank whilst it was still there and in the second picture it looks just like the first picture save for the roof having been removed and the introduction of the new terracing at the front.
So if the embankment wasn't built up at this time, then it would seem to indicate that the end was actually part terraced before the full embankment was introduced, would you agree?
Peter himself could remember back to the thirties 😂😂
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 6, 2017 23:35:50 GMT
No ..I mean have you spoken to anyone. ?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 6, 2017 23:24:33 GMT
Actually looking at it again I think the stand is slightly above pitch level so there may be a very very slight embankment there that it sits on, which maybe leading to what you were thinking, unless the pitch is dug down slightly. Either way I think the embankment was not only later expanded but also further built up where it previously already existed. It seems very high and steep in later life.
Yes I agree.
So next question ... are these two pictures showing the embankment prior to it being built up further then?
In the first picture you can clearly still see the roof, so they wouldn't (indeed couldn't) have built up the bank whilst it was still there and in the second picture it looks just like the first picture save for the roof having been removed and the introduction of the new terracing at the front.
So if the embankment wasn't built up at this time, then it would seem to indicate that the end was actually part terraced before the full embankment was introduced, would you agree?
Seriously....have you contacted the Club about your interest. I'm sure they must have some historical data and archives.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 6, 2017 23:00:29 GMT
Cheers mate. My great great grandad on that list haha. Pylon was installed in new position about 1967. I went to my first match in 1964 and can vaguely recall activity in that area a couple years later. Think it coincided with the John Ritchie saga. Could be wrong though. Yes I think you're probably right. The picture of Stan is 64/65 and the West Ham picture is 67/68 so it had to be done in the summer of 65, 66 or 67. Dunno if you are interested but got a DVD of Nottingham Forest v Stoke in 1907. Maybe been round the block but been sitting in my office draw since DVD came onto the scene 😀
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 6, 2017 22:42:25 GMT
Spoke to Alan Mansell Earlier this week..Author of lost liquor license of longton Copeland Street 1907 3 Boulton, Frederick Thomas, waggoner 5 Stanford, Thomas, financier's agent, Copeland House 5A Hackney, Win. B., earthenware dealer 7 Parker, Henry, mechanical engineer 9 Clay, -. Congregational Church Minister, Rev. J. A. Brown, B.A. Midland Railway goods warehouse 11 Showells Brewery Co., Ltd., brewers 11 Shaw, Harry, agent for Showells 13 Jebb, Thomas 15 Evans, Jno., Pike Inn (B.H.) Pim, Geo. and Co., brewers
19 Evans, Edwin, brewer Keeling, Samuel and Co., timber merchants Anderson, Thos. Brighten, M.B.C.M., physician and surgeon Breeze, Joseph, joiner and builder 23 Breeze, John, insurance agent 25 Hind, Jervis, furniture remover 27 Underwood, William, fitter 29 Hobson, Isabella, Coopers' Arms (F.L.) Nicholls, F.. timber merchant Shorter and Sons, majolica manufacturers Brittain, William, engineer and machinery broker 31 Evans, Wm., compositor 33 Scott, Jas., chimney sweep 35 Parkes. Wm., ironworker 37 Knight, Francis Henry, night watchman 39 Birch, George Henry, green-grocer 41 Barrett, Chas., tent builder 43 Thorley, Reuben, funeral undertaker Cheers mate. My great great grandad on that list haha. Pylon was installed in new position about 1967. I went to my first match in 1964 and can vaguely recall activity in that area a couple years later. Think it coincided with the John Ritchie saga. Could be wrong though. And used to stand with my dad and uncle about thirty yards away from said place for about twelve years. 😊
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Post by Titan Uranus on Mar 6, 2017 22:37:00 GMT
Where about in Copeland street was the brewery and when did it close? Spoke to Alan Mansell Earlier this week..Author of lost liquor license of longton Copeland Street 1907 3 Boulton, Frederick Thomas, waggoner 5 Stanford, Thomas, financier's agent, Copeland House 5A Hackney, Win. B., earthenware dealer 7 Parker, Henry, mechanical engineer 9 Clay, -. Congregational Church Minister, Rev. J. A. Brown, B.A. Midland Railway goods warehouse 11 Showells Brewery Co., Ltd., brewers 11 Shaw, Harry, agent for Showells 13 Jebb, Thomas 15 Evans, Jno., Pike Inn (B.H.) Pim, Geo. and Co., brewers
19 Evans, Edwin, brewer Keeling, Samuel and Co., timber merchants Anderson, Thos. Brighten, M.B.C.M., physician and surgeon Breeze, Joseph, joiner and builder 23 Breeze, John, insurance agent 25 Hind, Jervis, furniture remover 27 Underwood, William, fitter 29 Hobson, Isabella, Coopers' Arms (F.L.) Nicholls, F.. timber merchant Shorter and Sons, majolica manufacturers Brittain, William, engineer and machinery broker 31 Evans, Wm., compositor 33 Scott, Jas., chimney sweep 35 Parkes. Wm., ironworker 37 Knight, Francis Henry, night watchman 39 Birch, George Henry, green-grocer 41 Barrett, Chas., tent builder 43 Thorley, Reuben, funeral undertaker Cheers mate. My great great grandad on that list haha. Pylon was installed in new position about 1967. I went to my first match in 1964 and can vaguely recall activity in that area a couple years later. Think it coincided with the John Ritchie saga. Could be wrong though.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 9, 2017 22:40:21 GMT
Completely off topic (well not completely) have you ever seen a movie called "Little Big Man" ? Depending your age you may not even heard of it. Dustin Hoffman. Think that's what clicked. Been laughing for ten minutes. Yes i have. Also the indians in carry on cowboy. Big heap and little heap. Comedy gold Haha...strange isn't it what different things make people chuckle.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 9, 2017 22:28:29 GMT
Just out of interest who do you think looks knackered after 60 minutes? That sounds like a native american name. As in look there's 'looks knackered after 60 minutes' he's fucking unfit for a brave Completely off topic (well not completely) have you ever seen a movie called "Little Big Man" ? Depending your age you may not even heard of it. Dustin Hoffman. Think that's what clicked. Been laughing for ten minutes.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 9, 2017 22:11:12 GMT
Just out of interest who do you think looks knackered after 60 minutes? That sounds like a native american name. As in look there's 'looks knackered after 60 minutes' he's fucking unfit for a brave For some reason that's really hit my funny bone. I'm still tittering. Nice one mate.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 8, 2017 22:39:36 GMT
Don't be silly. He's way too butch for me. Perhaps it was just where he hung his cap I prefer the sauve sophisticated look of Sparky.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 8, 2017 22:37:08 GMT
This won't help Leicester though; a distraction they don't need. Wonder of their fans would trade FA Cup winners for relegation.?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 8, 2017 22:31:06 GMT
I do understand...of course. It doesn't make it fact though does it. Beginning to think Titan's Uranus has been licked by Pulis ; Don't be silly. He's way too butch for me.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 8, 2017 22:23:54 GMT
After you have answered my question above please remember that all the accusations against Pulis by the Manager, players and this message board are all built of straw. That is my point.You can call me a lot of things but please do not question my loyalty to SCFC. You must be able to understand why many on here are taking the side of our own management and players rather than take the word of a proven liar. I do understand...of course. It doesn't make it fact though does it.
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Berahino
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 8, 2017 21:57:23 GMT
He's unbelievable mate, some fake news at work here, the three posters who have posted the most on the following threads, are ...
'Tony Pulis!' Titan Uranus ... 33 parsons75 ... 24 geoff321 ... 20
'Berahino' Sberahino9 ... 22 Titan Uranus ... 17 parsons75 ... 17
34 And 20 😊
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 8, 2017 21:56:01 GMT
You are now defending wba fans at all costs ....there's absolutely nothing Mark Hughes, the club or the fans do or say that you agree with but defend Pulis and now their fans to the hilt ....it's not natural Cmon then ...you were asked the other day who you were in a previous guise but never answered so I'll ask you again
He's unbelievable mate, some fake news at work here, the three posters who have posted the most on the following threads, are ...
'Tony Pulis!' Titan Uranus ... 33 parsons75 ... 24 geoff321 ... 20
'Berahino' Sberahino9 ... 22 Titan Uranus ... 17 parsons75 ... 17
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 8, 2017 21:40:09 GMT
After you have answered my question above please remember that all the accusations against Pulis by the Manager, players and this message board are all built of straw. That is my point. You can call me a lot of things but please do not question my loyalty to SCFC. Oh pick your teddies up for goodness sake. It's quite obvious you are a Stoke fan unlike the Boggy shit stirrers who've been on here since Berahino signed. But it doesn't sit too well when 'one of our own' (see I've gone and done it again) insinuates that our Captain is a bit of a thicko and our Manager is a snidey bastard and both have conspired together to traduce the completely innocent Tony Pulis. Now he may be totally innocent, he may be the one guilty of the leak, none of us knows for sure, but I know where my money would be. Your view it appears is different. Ok fine. Anyway I've had enough of this nonsense so feel free to carry on without me. You quite like misquoting don't you ? Yep.. it's time to stop this. Just happy that you have accepted that both scenarios are full of assumptions and bullshit.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 8, 2017 20:04:30 GMT
I've noticed that one of the A50 slipways near the stadium is closed for roadworks for a number of weeks. Looks like a Saturday could be even worse than usual.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 8, 2017 19:56:37 GMT
Perhaps a Champions League place for the winners would make difference.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 8, 2017 18:54:41 GMT
Damn right im not going too say how I know. Why should I? All i can tell you is I know this is fact. And its not one baggie fan, one of your own fans on another thread has also posted the same thing regarding this. You can do whatever you want to make yourself feel better and make things up, ive just come on and given you some information, whether you choose to believe me is your own issue not mine. No that one 'fan' was the one in the discussion thread you quoted. And all he was doing was repeating parrot fashion what you posted as fact on another thread. So your corroboration like the rest of your argument built of straw, goes up in flames. After you have answered my question above please remember that all the accusations against Pulis by the Manager, players and this message board are all built of straw. That is my point. You can call me a lot of things but please do not question my loyalty to SCFC.
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