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Defoe
Apr 9, 2017 15:01:33 GMT
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 9, 2017 15:01:33 GMT
If there's one club that could finally put the nail into Defoe's goalscoring career it would be Stoke City FC. Harsh but probably true Worth a try though
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Defoe
Apr 9, 2017 14:56:24 GMT
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 9, 2017 14:56:24 GMT
If there's one club that could finally put the nail into Defoe's goalscoring career it would be Stoke City FC. Harsh but probably true
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 8, 2017 20:31:58 GMT
I'm not too worried about the Hull match, they're having a bit of a resurgence at home but they're still crap away, and apart from Bournemouth we've only lost to the top 4 at home so we've still got a pretty solid home record. Their away record under the new manager is: Played 7, lost 7, scored 3, conceded 20 - and that includes Fulham in the cup. Their only away win was their first away match of the season at Swansea, they've lost 13 of the other 15 convincingly. For them to usurp us by the end of the season, they'd need to beat us at the Bet365, beat Southampton at St Mary's and probably beat Palace at Selhurst, with their away record plus ours, Southampton and Palace's home record, I just can't see it happening. We're doomed. Yep... my gut feeling is that it would have to be a cataclysmic set of results to send us down. But .... stranger things have happened and after today we just cannot think it's impossible. It's the mindset that bothers me. Because if we did lose God knows what the atmosphere at the club would be like.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 8, 2017 20:10:18 GMT
Surely another home defeat against Hull would see the axe fall, as a number of people have seen enough!
I really can't see Coates sacking him before the season is out, it would have to be a proper tonking and the majority of the crowd would have to have turned before he would even consider it, I'd wager.
Dunno... if we lose to Hull reckon even Peter will get a bit squeeky... Big ifs and buts of course but we would be in serious freefall and technically in a relegation battle. The situation and mood would change enormously.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 8, 2017 19:59:56 GMT
An news from the ITKers that something is happening imminently with regard to Hughes' dismissal? Harry Redknapp was having a pint in the Bears Head about half an hour ago.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 8, 2017 19:35:33 GMT
The maths is simple... If we lose to hull we are 100 per cent in a relegation battle and up to our necks in it If we beat hull we are in the clear :-) Make no mistake. This game is massive. If we do lose then we would be in absolute freefall ..... Need some Pottermus inspiration next Saturday.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 8, 2017 18:58:15 GMT
Dunna worry. A point against Hull will do the trick. and if we dunna...Titan Uranus If we lose to Hull then I seriously think PC may sack Sparky on Sunday and bring in young Harry and his team for the last few games in a firefighting exercise.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 8, 2017 18:25:59 GMT
If...big if...Sir Peter is thinking about wielding the axe... There is only one man in his thoughts Martin O'Fookineil
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 8, 2017 18:18:14 GMT
Dunna worry. A point against Hull will do the trick.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 8, 2017 17:42:03 GMT
Mid table mediocrity
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 8, 2017 17:29:48 GMT
Definitely one of his worst performances in a Stoke shirt. We really need him to deliver right now but he keeps making mistakes. In many respects that was the difference today. Liverpool's key players delivered the goods when they had to. That's the difference between a top four team and a mid-table team. It's always the difference. Higher level of consistency performance level. It's a worn out cliche but true. If he played at top level every week he wouldn't be playing for SCFC.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 8, 2017 9:57:59 GMT
Good points matey. But you will probably be the same in about thirty years when we have probably been down the divisions and back up again.Life and football's cycle and all that. You will probably be twittertagging to your middle aged mates while the young uns are tele-transporting to their Trumpdock communication hub. Andy Wilkinson will be writing in the Sentinel cyber space gazette what a good job Walters is doing as technical director. Very unlikely I think. Where is the next bet365 coming from in North Staffs? And as for inward investment from outside, forget it. Christ matey it was only a joke.
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Defoe
Apr 7, 2017 22:01:23 GMT
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 7, 2017 22:01:23 GMT
Wow! We all wanted this to happen years ago when Tone had his arm around him before a spurs game.. To be honest I probably would sign him. He is ultra fit and rarely injured and would be the player we thought Owen would be. But to watch him start ahead of Berahino by early October will be worrying! Yeh...it would be a tad worrying. But just thinking... presumably Crouch and Joselu will be leaving this close season. There won't be many guaranteed twelve goals a season strikers in the market will there?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 7, 2017 21:45:21 GMT
Think that sums things up.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 7, 2017 21:43:52 GMT
Some of what he says is right on the money, I just don't understand how Adam is exempt from criticism. Agree.
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Defoe
Apr 7, 2017 21:42:03 GMT
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 7, 2017 21:42:03 GMT
Defoe Would we be after him this Summer?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 7, 2017 21:11:38 GMT
Nothing about our support base is more pathetic than the clique of miserable middle-aged men who exist on this forum and are absolutely determined to fling insults at any younger person who dares to have an opinion contradictory to theirs or have a bit of fun on social media. Half of you would honestly prefer it if we were stuck in League One or the Championship drawing in crowds of 12,00-17,000 if it meant that there weren't as many ~millennials~ posting hashtags. Truly, a lot more jaw-droppingly pathetic. That a handful of people making a joke up (because it just so happened to rhyme) on an entirely different website. Good points matey. But you will probably be the same in about thirty years when we have probably been down the divisions and back up again. Life and football's cycle and all that. You will probably be twittertagging to your middle aged mates while the young uns are tele-transporting to their Trumpdock communication hub. Andy Wilkinson will be writing in the Sentinel cyber space gazette what a good job Walters is doing as technical director.
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Cheer up!
Apr 7, 2017 19:29:49 GMT
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 7, 2017 19:29:49 GMT
Complain... Moan... Chunter... OK But to call for the Manager's head.. Ridiculous. He's been here for 4 years. We are regressing. I think people are now entitled to express their views on our manager. Everybody is entitled to their views. I think he's had a really bad 14 months and needs to sort his shit out. I think he's gone starry eyed on a few signings and fooked up the already precarious balance of the squad. I think the games with Given between the sticks has fooked up his previous relatively clear thinking. I don't think he should or will be sacked this summer though.
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Cheer up!
Apr 7, 2017 19:14:20 GMT
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 7, 2017 19:14:20 GMT
I think we for whatever reason, have some of the most negative fans in the country. Things could and have been a lot worse in the not to distant past. This season has been utter shit that's why there's a lot of negativity. People have a right to complain. Complain... Moan... Chunter... OK But to call for the Manager's head.. Ridiculous.
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Cheer up!
Apr 7, 2017 19:12:44 GMT
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 7, 2017 19:12:44 GMT
We'll see how bad we are wth the attendance and amount signing mark Hughes's name tomorrow hey? Well..it's a sell out.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 7, 2017 19:07:41 GMT
The doom and gloom is getting pretty exhausting now. In reality we are a relatively solid and established Premier League club. Our club is unrecognisable from what masqueraded as SCFC a couple of decades ago. We have a squad which is far from perfect but is still capable of competing with some of the best teams in the world. Hughes may get sacked. He may not. I think most of us could deal with either outcome given a slight improvement in performances and results. It really isn't that bad a situation. It'll be alright. We have a squad with some outrageous talent and a lot of deadwood which, in failing to put in a convincing performance this season, is massively underachieving Yes but in the context of things ...we ain't that bad...honestly. We are a mid- table Premiership team. My main gripe this season were the woeful cup exits. I suspect St Peter will be thinking the same.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 7, 2017 18:03:42 GMT
Makes some valid points.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 7, 2017 17:42:29 GMT
2-1 to the mighty Potters tomorrow.
We will then ease past Hull next week and everybody will be very happy. 😊
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 5, 2017 21:45:48 GMT
It's very possible we'll lose to hull and Swansea, really not sure how people can confidently say 'if we didn't get another point we'd be fine'. Bollocks OK. I will change that to .... We need another two points to be absolutely safe. Is that ok now.?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 5, 2017 21:18:34 GMT
Tonight's results have taken us from unlikely but possible to highly unlikely Only a disasterous run by us and miracle results from teams in the relegation area would condemn us. Safe but not happy Jesus wept. We have never been in danger of relegation. I would wager that even if we didn't gain another point this season we still wouldn't go down.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 5, 2017 20:53:03 GMT
It's clear to see that Les has completely lost the plot now. We've had occasional glimpses of hope this season but overall it's been a year of significant regression. We're slow, one-dimensional and devoid of any creativity. The performances this season on the whole have been fucking dreadful. He watches games unfold, he sees how awful we are and watches as games ebb away from us, and appears inept to react. And when he does make a change, he very rarely get its right and makes a positive impact. Crouch tonight for fuck sake? Jesus wept. And don't even get me started on him dropping Ramadan, the most exciting player we have in the final third. He's overseeing an absolute fucking farce. We're down to 11th now, and there are 4 more teams below us that can overtake us should they make the most of their games in hand. That's not to say they all will do that of course, but it does show you that we're much closer to the dregs at the bottom of the table than we are to those nearer the top. Does anybody seriously believe this team will finish in the top 10? It's impossible to put any kind of positive spin on the direction we're heading. He's created a squad which looks utterly disjointed and requires massive overhaul. Another 30 million pounds of player not figuring yet again tonight in the form of Imbula and Shaqiri. He appears to be doing his best in squandering the Berahino money too, as he wanders around lost up front, feeding off scraps. I wouldn't give him another summer and another bundle of cash to piss up the wall. He's spent a fucking fortune and made a complete pigs dick of things. The warning signs are clear to see. His time is up and we are crying out for change. Knicker wetter.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 5, 2017 20:08:39 GMT
What's your point greenhoff? Because it's not knicker wetting is it? Many very reasoned posters are questioning Hughes' position. There's been some great debate on here. Of course there is extreme arguments on both sides but for the most part it's what makes a good message board. To dismiss the valid arguments made against the management team as knicker wetting is the sort of complacency that may cost us our top flight status. There is debate. There is discussion. There is difference of opinion. To call for the head of a manager who has delivered three top ten positions and is comfortably in mid-table now is in my mind "knicker wetting"
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 5, 2017 19:57:56 GMT
Top reply trousers... We've got some right knicker wetters in the ranks these days. Knicker wetter right up there with Pulis hating Wankstain as my favourite phrase. Most on here are having a reasoned debate about the merits of the current manager. Thanks for joining in. What's your point greenhoff?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 5, 2017 19:07:24 GMT
TD - I take your point and we are far too quick, in this modern world of immediate gratification, to pull the trigger when patience is required. However, to take a big hit on transfer fees paid and start afresh (which is what most think is needed this summer), to my mind, needs a new man at the helm to do it. Would Les really admit he has got it so badly wrong and offload a truckload of HIS signings at "fire sale" prices? If he does admit he has blown mega-millions, why would the board then blithely give him carte blanche to blow even more in the hope he gets it right this time? I have severe reservations about our doing so and it is neither my job to oversee the club's finances (Scholes) nor my money he would be spending (Coates). He sorted out Pulis' mess, to a certain extent, but then went and created a potentially even bigger one of his own design! It may be that the club's hierarchy should dictate the terms on which he is to stay. I feel, in the summer, if given a reprieve, he needs to be told in no uncertain terms to try to work with the big money signings he has made and get them Stoke fit, physically and mentally, as he will not be given another huge war chest to blow if he offloads them all on the cheap. So bring back and reintegrate Bojan and Joselu, rehabilitate Imbula and put Shaqiri on a fitness regime which involves yoga, pilates and massage, not 300lb leg presses and squats!! I'd also look to blood some of our impressive youngsters, to see if they have got what it takes to make the step up. Bolster the squad at full back and defensive midfield and get back to 4-2-3-1, playing brave attacking football - yeah, I know!! I think your last paragraph will be exactly what happens.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Apr 5, 2017 18:29:02 GMT
So in summary. Give him time to sort out a mess entirely of his own making? Give him the Summer and presumably significant transfer funds. Then if it doesn't work out sack him in the Autumn. Mmmm! I'm not denying that he's fucked up this season, but I just don't think it's fair that after THREE good seasons, we're all after his blood after ONE bad one! Why does a proven good manager have to pay with his job the first time things don't go to plan? There's this assumption that it's absolutely impossible for him to turn this round, which I simply don't agree with. Top reply trousers... We've got some right knicker wetters in the ranks these days.
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