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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 31, 2020 19:48:47 GMT
I canāt get my head around independence from Westminster, but subservience to Brussels. How is this independence? You only had to see Sturgeonās response to Boris Johnsonās Covid unlocking. Basically, slag it off, see how it goes, then do the same two weeks later. I canāt see true leadership from her, beyond the sound bites. I was dead set against independence in 2014, but I say now, let them go with the caveat that theyāre not coming back.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 26, 2020 16:51:19 GMT
I believe if you walk these lines, you are effectively trespassing as they remain the property of Network Rail. Not that anyone is arsed of course š¤£
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 26, 2020 16:48:19 GMT
Yes they were called Ambrose Slade and shortened it in 1969/70. Bizzarely, the names Ambrose and Slade were apparently the titles of the brand of Shoes and Handbag used by their promoter's secretary. Allegedly. Good knowledge šš Slade in flame is an absolutely brilliant film, including one of our own Alan Lake from Milton.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 26, 2020 12:14:52 GMT
I remember the autumn tours thatād fill mid sized venues like the Victoria Hall. Typically, this would be from early October to just before Christmas. Iāve seen some great bands on those autumn tours, and it just doesnāt seem to happen no more. A great shame. My local favourites from back in the day, were the Wheatsheaf (of course), The Talbot, The Bridge Street Arts Centre, The Oxford Arms, and The Stage before its make over into the Sugarmill. The sentinels advert pages were bulging with venues with live music, mainly covers acts but at least it was there. I noted when I saw Atomic Rooster at The 100 club, itās forthcoming attractions were covers and tribute acts, is there a lack of original acts? The evidence points to these venues closing because of aggressive developments, huge overheads, and noise complaints. Itās a great shame we are losing these venues, because our pop culture is world class and when thereās nowhere for people to watch or bands to play then itās all over.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 25, 2020 16:12:19 GMT
Desperately sad about Peter Green, and will always be a legend for his playing, not least his contribution to the birth of hard rock at the end of the 1960s with Fleetwood Mac. Iād definitely say that Peter Green at the Wheatsheaf was that venues biggest ever coup.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 25, 2020 15:31:54 GMT
I believe the line is classed as āmothballedā not shut and therefore may be easier to open. I think there was goods trains using the line in the late 1980s. I can imagine many residents by the line, particularly those in Brown Edge or Endon might not be best pleased about a potential opening. Leek might also prefer to link up to Macclesfield instead (and therefore Manchester), it certainly may be more economically attractive. I think it was quarried stone not goods? The track from what I could see of it is has deteriorated since then? To add to that, trains leave Stoke station every ten minutes so a rebuild of Stoke station or major alteration could be needed to accommodate the extra traffic? If Boris Johnson is serious about levelling out the country, then itās about time North Staffordshire had some infrastructure projects like this to boost the local economy and environmental sustainability etc.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 25, 2020 15:20:35 GMT
I believe the line is classed as āmothballedā not shut and therefore may be easier to open. I think there was goods trains using the line in the late 1980s. I can imagine many residents by the line, particularly those in Brown Edge or Endon might not be best pleased about a potential opening. Leek might also prefer to link up to Macclesfield instead (and therefore Manchester), it certainly may be more economically attractive.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 24, 2020 14:06:10 GMT
Pete Bloor is from a generation that would comfortably and quite normally follow Stoke and Crewe. This hating Crewe thing has only developed in the last 25 years or so. If you are under 30 then that's all your supporting time. Don't get me wrong the bile has generally come from the Cheshire end and I find it unacceptable how that clubs has utterly failed to deal with the child abuse scandal. Thereās plenty of 40 somethings on here (including me) who watched Stoke and went to the Vale, in the days when there was literally no rivalry. As for me now, I go Burton Albion games as well as Stoke. I was getting locked out of the stadium as a non season ticket holder, so I ended up a Stoke City Orphan at the Pirelli stadium. Being In the Royal Navy sometimes meant I saw more of Plymouth or Yeovil than I did Stoke as well. Now the plastics and the tourists have gone I can fill my boots again š.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 21, 2020 6:46:48 GMT
I used to read Q in the 80s and 90s, pretty much read any music mag including the weekly inkies and mags like VOX. I know the internet has laid waste to a lot of hard copy media, but I also wonder if thereās a decline in people interested in contemporary Rock/guitar music? Itās notable that retro themed mags like Mojo and Record Collector are still with us, so maybe Rock Music has become a backward facing retro scene?
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 16, 2020 12:10:25 GMT
Just google āBlackpool relegation 1978ā to see how a fluke set of results can send you down. It aināt over until itās a mathematical impossibility.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jul 13, 2020 8:25:40 GMT
I bet heās āGlad all overā (ahem).
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 30, 2020 7:37:25 GMT
Did my course at the Fleet Air Arm museum at Yeovilton. Spent four hours looking at pictures and videos of Trent Vale for my āre-educationā.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 22, 2020 14:49:43 GMT
The Russians really are bastards of the highest order and donāt give a shit about their global reputation. As long ago as 1992, which was only 3 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the so called "end" to the Cold War, I was on a ship that caught them red handed dumping nuclear waste in international sea space off Murmansk in the Arctic Circle. This was on a massive scale and we had video evidence and results of testing the sea bed after they had gone. Nothing was done. At that time Putin would have been Head of External Relations within their government So would have had influence over any Soviet reaction to the event. I can concur with that. Pretty unscrupulous in my experience with them in the RN. The Salisbury poisonings could have been a lot, lot worse too.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 20, 2020 19:54:49 GMT
Awful, dreadful news.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 19, 2020 16:14:54 GMT
This YouTube series has been a great watch.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 17, 2020 20:37:15 GMT
Bradford PA are currently installing a plastic 3G pitch, not sure how that fits in the higher up the pyramid you get. The belief in Bradford is that the city is too small for two league clubs. 349000 population That's much larger than Stoke which has two clubs and bigger than Nottingham. The perceived wisdom was that the city was too small for two clubs, and that either City or Avenue would go to the wall. City had private and public investment in the late 60s, Avenue didnāt have a pot to piss in. The rest is history.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 17, 2020 19:53:25 GMT
View AttachmentBradford PA had a great stadium, better than Bradford City. The old home end, half the pitch and perimeter walls still exist. Bradford PA play at the horsfall stadium, which is an athletic stadium. They sold their ground in 1973. Bradford PA are currently installing a plastic 3G pitch, not sure how that fits in the higher up the pyramid you get. The belief in Bradford is that the city is too small for two league clubs.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 17, 2020 19:49:30 GMT
Stoke City failed to be re-elected to the football league in 1890.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 17, 2020 19:36:32 GMT
Great news just need to get Workington and Bradford Park Avenue back now. Bradford PA had a great stadium, better than Bradford City. The old home end, half the pitch and perimeter walls still exist.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 17, 2020 19:27:44 GMT
Gateshead were voted out because they were difficult to get to, and some say Newcastle didnāt want them on there doorstep. Many clubs survived multiple re-election bids due to there ability to manipulate the politics of the football league. The farcical Bradford (Park Avenue), once a grand club, perhaps being the only inevitable re-election failure post war. However, the loss of league football led to Bradford being liquidated in 1974. Once you were out, you really were out.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 14, 2020 21:55:49 GMT
This post is for open, frank and honest discussion about what causes racism. If it descends into anything nasty from all races on The Oatcake, Iāll ask admin to delete it. I hear the white race are institutionally racist beyond their comprehension. I feel the label is sometimes weilded as an insult and used to keep races apart. Would it be fair to say that other ethnic groups in the U.K. such as Asian, Romany Gypsy and People of Colour are āconditionally racistā due to them being educated by their peers in the belief that they have experienced years of oppression? Racism is often borne from a lack of understanding. A lack of understanding is often a byproduct of a lack of education. We have to focus on what links us and not what divides us. And often that comes down to our ridiculously antiquated class system. So it starts with education, no child is born a racist. Every child should be given an equal start in life from an educational perspective. Look over to Finland, a world class pre-school set up, and a fair education system free of private schools to allow kids to thrive based on their ability and work rate, and not on the cards they were dealt when they were born. And letās get the British Empire, itās links to slavery, and conflicts other than the two major wars in the curriculum and discussed warts and all. But this takes major rethinking on the part of our electorate and politicians. If you look at our politicians, comedians, journalists etc. very often they are Oxbridge educated, whether they are white or BAME. So is it a race issue, or a class issue? The two are intrinsically linked. If youāre a white working class factory worker from Moss Side, who do you have more in common with? Is it Jacob Rhys Mogg in his Somerset stately home with his 19th century values, or is it the Iraqi van driver or the Afro-Caribbean refuse collector from up the road? Because I almost guarantee the fears around health, education, housing, the safety of their kids will be the same. Weāre fed a constant diet of news that tells us that life is shit because of these people, when the reality is far different. It often boils down to the oppressed v the oppressors, and not race. Tackle the inequality in our society, tackle our unfair education system, and in a couple of generations time you will see that racism will become far less prevalent in our society, in our institutions, our boardrooms, and importantly in our main stream media. Iāve seen in military training, kids with instinctive intelligence that hasnāt been honed by grammar school, college or university. It was a joy to see them grow (as submariners in my experience), often out performing middle class kids. The question is, how to crack the middle class hegemony. Iām certain, left or right, they donāt want talented young Working class kids to ursurp there own youngsters. Conversely (I believe) many working class parents donāt value education or aspiration.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 14, 2020 18:24:36 GMT
Iāve pretty much cribbed my previous post from Alf Ramseyās biography. Iām just trying to give the view at the time by the players and management. Iāve named a few but most players on that day blamed Bonetti and felt that the substitutions were overstated. The substitutions were certainly a part of what happened next not disputing that, Norman Hunter arguably should have come on earlier too. The biggest reason by far for the defeat was Bonnettiās performance.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 14, 2020 17:07:12 GMT
England players of the Time ( Lee, Charlton, Ball) say the substitute controversy is over stated. Colin Bell came on and had a good game, preserving the aged Charlton for the next match is a sensible reason for the substitution. A side like West Germany were too good to roll over, and would have come at England at some point. Apart from his errors, Bonetti had been distracted by trouble with his wife (players wives had accompanied the squad) and was said not to be mentally prepared. Geoff Hurst, Francis Lee and Nobby Stiles have subsequently said that Alex Stepney would have been a better choice, not least due to his big match temperament, as Bonetti was nervous as well as distracted.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 11, 2020 22:36:13 GMT
Donāt even mention Pakistani Daleks.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 11, 2020 11:40:42 GMT
I canāt say I knew this guy or his work, but I know how sad it is when a favourite musician passes away. The Rock generation is passing into history, and when this pandemic is over, we must redouble our efforts to see them in action. RIP Paul.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 11, 2020 11:25:23 GMT
Wouldnāt be surprised if it happened here. The government and police are weak as piss. The Left are on the March and nobody wants to stop them.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 10, 2020 12:53:19 GMT
I remember a cracking goal by Gerry Daly against Barnsley in 1988. He chipped a pass forward to Tony Henry (back to goal), Henry killed it on his left thigh then flicked it onto the on rushing Daly who scored with a volley from 15 yards.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 9, 2020 9:01:45 GMT
Although that season was dreadful for Stoke, our average crowds increased to 12,499 from 9,871 the previous season. So at least we stuck to the increased crowd bit True. Crowds were up due to higher expectations caused by us spending a few quid over the summer. The boothen were chanting ābring out the championsā before the first game against West Ham! We also had games against Vale, and Wolves which inflated our average slightly. Our crowds held up despite our league position. I always thought it was Vale in the same league galvanising our support. Cheers Vale š
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 9, 2020 8:14:11 GMT
Just prior to the World Cup, crowds were up, the standard of football was improving and one press commentator said āfootball was being played with a smile on its faceā. The green shoots were already there. Apart from at Stoke, where we had just endured a horror season! Although that season was dreadful for Stoke, our average crowds increased to 12,499 from 9,871 the previous season. So at least we stuck to the increased crowd bit
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 9, 2020 8:03:18 GMT
Just prior to the World Cup, crowds were up, the standard of football was improving and one press commentator said āfootball was being played with a smile on its faceā. The green shoots were already there.
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