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Post by Cast no shadow on Jun 17, 2020 18:29:58 GMT
Back in football league after nearly 50 years. Won't be the way would of wanted to be promoted but they've done it nonetheless. Well done also to former player Mark Waddington. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53086548 |
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Post by AlliG on Jun 17, 2020 18:40:10 GMT
Back in football league after nearly 50 years. Won't be the way would of wanted to be promoted but they've done it nonetheless. Well done also to former player Mark Waddington. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53086548Welcome back. They were the perfect example of why the "re-election" system was a pile of ****. Crewe finished bottom of the table (8 points behind Barrow who weren't even 2nd bottom) but because it was "easier" to get to Crewe, Northampton & Stockport and there was a desire to reward Hereford for their FA Cup run, Barrow were voted out after a second vote. |
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Post by Veritas on Jun 17, 2020 19:24:06 GMT
Great news just need to get Workington and Bradford Park Avenue back now.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 17, 2020 19:27:44 GMT
Gateshead were voted out because they were difficult to get to, and some say Newcastle didn’t want them on there doorstep. Many clubs survived multiple re-election bids due to there ability to manipulate the politics of the football league. The farcical Bradford (Park Avenue), once a grand club, perhaps being the only inevitable re-election failure post war. However, the loss of league football led to Bradford being liquidated in 1974. Once you were out, you really were out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 19:29:25 GMT
Back in football league after nearly 50 years. Won't be the way would of wanted to be promoted but they've done it nonetheless. Well done also to former player Mark Waddington. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53086548Welcome back. They were the perfect example of why the "re-election" system was a pile of ****. Crewe finished bottom of the table (8 points behind Barrow who weren't even 2nd bottom) but because it was "easier" to get to Crewe, Northampton & Stockport and there was a desire to reward Hereford for their FA Cup run, Barrow were voted out after a second vote. Wasn't it implied at the time that Crewe had a bit of a sway with the FA as well? As you say was a nonsense |
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Post by sheds1862 on Jun 17, 2020 19:29:52 GMT
Were Southport still a league club in the 70's ?
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Post by Veritas on Jun 17, 2020 19:34:28 GMT
Were Southport still a league club in the 70's ? Probably as I remember them getting thrown out |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 17, 2020 19:36:32 GMT
Great news just need to get Workington and Bradford Park Avenue back now.  Bradford PA had a great stadium, better than Bradford City. The old home end, half the pitch and perimeter walls still exist. |
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Post by sheds1862 on Jun 17, 2020 19:36:58 GMT
My vague memory is Crewe, Rochdale and Hartlepool always seemed to be applying for re-election
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jun 17, 2020 19:41:23 GMT
Were Southport still a league club in the 70's ? Yes until 1978. And we played them away in our 1972 League Cup run. My first ever Stoke City game. |
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Post by AlliG on Jun 17, 2020 19:42:49 GMT
Were Southport still a league club in the 70's ? Yes. They dropped out at the end of the 1977/78 season to be replaced by Wigan. Again they weren't the bottom team (it was Rochdale that season). |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 17, 2020 19:47:23 GMT
Well done Bazzer
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 17, 2020 19:48:44 GMT
Great news just need to get Workington and Bradford Park Avenue back now. Bradford PA had a great stadium, better than Bradford City. The old home end, half the pitch and perimeter walls still exist. Bradford PA play at the horsfall stadium, which is an athletic stadium. They sold their ground in 1973. |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 17, 2020 19:49:30 GMT
Stoke City failed to be re-elected to the football league in 1890.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 17, 2020 19:53:25 GMT
View AttachmentBradford PA had a great stadium, better than Bradford City. The old home end, half the pitch and perimeter walls still exist. Bradford PA play at the horsfall stadium, which is an athletic stadium. They sold their ground in 1973. Bradford PA are currently installing a plastic 3G pitch, not sure how that fits in the higher up the pyramid you get. The belief in Bradford is that the city is too small for two league clubs. |
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Post by AlliG on Jun 17, 2020 19:59:13 GMT
Stoke City failed to be re-elected to the football league in 1890. But we had at least "earned" it by finishing bottom of the first 2 tables. (Benji's great, great, great grandfather was bemoaning the crocodili gravitas.  ) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 20:17:17 GMT
Really pleased for Barrow as they seemed to entirely disappear way down the football pyramid and have slowly re-established themselves. Will be good to see one of the "lost" clubs back in the league. As has been said we Bradford Park Avenue, Workington, and Gateshead should be back in. I can think of a few clubs who I wouldn't mind seeing relegated to allow them back in.
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Post by lordb on Jun 17, 2020 20:21:55 GMT
Bradford PA play at the horsfall stadium, which is an athletic stadium. They sold their ground in 1973. Bradford PA are currently installing a plastic 3G pitch, not sure how that fits in the higher up the pyramid you get. The belief in Bradford is that the city is too small for two league clubs. 349000 population That's much larger than Stoke which has two clubs and bigger than Nottingham. |
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Post by tayterz on Jun 17, 2020 20:24:07 GMT
Halifax Town at the Shay-eh 👍
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Post by Dutchpeter on Jun 17, 2020 20:37:15 GMT
Bradford PA are currently installing a plastic 3G pitch, not sure how that fits in the higher up the pyramid you get. The belief in Bradford is that the city is too small for two league clubs. 349000 population That's much larger than Stoke which has two clubs and bigger than Nottingham. The perceived wisdom was that the city was too small for two clubs, and that either City or Avenue would go to the wall. City had private and public investment in the late 60s, Avenue didn’t have a pot to piss in. The rest is history. |
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Post by lordb on Jun 17, 2020 20:44:59 GMT
Big Rugby League city of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 21:00:49 GMT
Big Rugby League city of course. And birthplace of Michael Rennie, star of 'The Day The Earth Stood Still' Not sure where Gort was from |
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Post by BristolMick on Jun 17, 2020 22:39:44 GMT
Bradford PA are currently installing a plastic 3G pitch, not sure how that fits in the higher up the pyramid you get. The belief in Bradford is that the city is too small for two league clubs. 349000 population That's much larger than Stoke which has two clubs and bigger than Nottingham. It’s not larger than Stoke and Newcastle combined which at the 2011 census was 353,000. If you were to include Kidsgrove and Moorlands in the SOT built up area it rises to 436,000. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoke-on-Trent_Built-up_AreaBM PS Congratulations to Barrow, it’s good to have outpost clubs in the league. |
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Post by lordb on Jun 17, 2020 22:42:24 GMT
349000 population That's much larger than Stoke which has two clubs and bigger than Nottingham. It’s not larger than Stoke and Newcastle combined which at the 2011 census was 353,000. If you were to include Kidsgrove and Moorlands in the SOT built up area it rises to 436,000. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoke-on-Trent_Built-up_AreaBM PS Congratulations to Barrow, it’s good to have outpost clubs in the league. True but presumably Bradford has nearby catchment areas too. Point I was trying to make was that it goes to show our area is a proper football area. |
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Post by yes on Jun 18, 2020 4:49:50 GMT
Got to remember that Stoke-on-Trent is practically a one club city.
If they didn't exist, the 2,000 Vale fans would probably have more of an interest in stamp collecting or spreading their own faeces on walls.
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Post by felonious on Jun 18, 2020 5:11:37 GMT
349000 population That's much larger than Stoke which has two clubs and bigger than Nottingham. It’s not larger than Stoke and Newcastle combined which at the 2011 census was 353,000. If you were to include Kidsgrove and Moorlands in the SOT built up area it rises to 436,000. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoke-on-Trent_Built-up_AreaBM PS Congratulations to Barrow, it’s good to have outpost clubs in the league. I think it's higher than that Mick the figures for SOT and NUL appear to be 386,000 and 130,000 respectively. It's always a misnomer to look at the population of SOT in isolation. In addition to the above there are many fans coming in from adjoining towns North, East, West and South. |
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Post by Veritas on Jun 18, 2020 6:42:48 GMT
Really pleased for Barrow as they seemed to entirely disappear way down the football pyramid and have slowly re-established themselves. Will be good to see one of the "lost" clubs back in the league. As has been said we Bradford Park Avenue, Workington, and Gateshead should be back in. I can think of a few clubs who I wouldn't mind seeing relegated to allow them back in. MK Dons always top my list |
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Post by sheds1862 on Jun 18, 2020 9:06:31 GMT
Was it Leek v Barrow at Wembley, got be at least 20 years ago. Think Leek got thrashed .
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Post by eddyclamp on Jun 18, 2020 9:18:37 GMT
I`m old enough to remember Barrow being in the league , like Workington , Halifax and Southport. Did anyone play the board game Wembley when they were a kid.
All these clubs were in it.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jun 18, 2020 9:22:37 GMT
I`m old enough to remember Barrow being in the league , like Workington , Halifax and Southport. Did anyone play the board game Wembley when they were a kid. All these clubs were in it. Saw them play Peterborough utd at Peterborough early seventies |
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