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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 5, 2014 21:39:02 GMT
Watched the recent Shrewsbury and Altrincham friendly and it was pretty obvious which player had played at the top level. Everything Shrewsbury did that was worthwhile went through him.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 5, 2014 18:50:05 GMT
unbelievable post ?? - has the lad had a single shot in preseason ? an attempt on goal even ? I cant recall much to be honest BOJAN - there's the benchmark - goals from the start (ps bombed at both United and Blackburn rovers a ways back -- go figure jurys 'well out' on this fella until he starts hitting the net - as far as I'm concerned Sometimes Tony, you don't half portray yourself as an utter plank. It's pre-season. We haven't played a single competitive game.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 4, 2014 12:12:51 GMT
Best left back in the league Tony, remember? Bidding starts at 32M. Best midfield player at the club according to the Oatcake (until he actually played there). I think that was Wayne Thomas as assessed by a couple of our more senile mature contributors who in their brief moments of being lucid associate playing well at full-back with being a midfield play maker.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 1, 2014 22:42:59 GMT
He certainly isn't the player who looked so majestic against us in 2008. Tony probably thinks he is though. Hopefully Tone will also finally land Zamora too and your 2008 gear won't look out of place when Tone rocks up at the Brit It's times like this that you can't help but be pleased our transfers are now in different hands.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 28, 2014 19:05:44 GMT
But only one club has cost the council money. I agree that the council has benefited from you making it to the premier league. My problem with the thread is the enjoyment some of you got from the possibility of us getting wound up. You got PC and we got Bill Bratt. As I pointed out earlier, your problems started with the green eyed envy and childish spite of Bill Bell when he chose to build the White Elephant Lorne Street Stand. An unfinished monument that was a million miles above what was required and half built at a cost your club could never afford from day one to the present. It plunged you into the cycle of administration and bucket collections from which you have never recovered and a scenario that is fast approaching again under the current chancer running your club. The profits generated by Rudge have been long blown to the four corners of the Burslem drains. The fact is that when Bell went down that route of "sticking it" to Stoke City and the council Vale fans cheered him on to a man! Then you come on here crying about a lack of sympathy?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 28, 2014 18:50:49 GMT
Shall we tell the ignorant twonk about the Stadium Development Company of which the council were a major shareholder from which the council made substantial profits on top of getting their initial capital outlay back in full? Lets not bother because he and they do not like the truth. I'm not arguing the point at all. I'm not arguing with you about who's right or wrong. I'm saying that we've all benefited from the city council. But only one club has cost the council money.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 28, 2014 18:44:56 GMT
It never became the community stadium it was intended to be and, in my opinion, by agreeing to this bargain sale price for the city’s stake in the venue, the council’s hierarchy ensured the taxpayers of the Potteries were significantly shortchanged. If you want, as a Port Vale supporter to embarrass yourself with your ignorance this really isn't the forum on which to display such stupidity is it?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 28, 2014 18:42:39 GMT
You paid it back because of Peter Coates. A man you hounded out before he was willing to bail you out. I would imagine the discount you got on The Brit was probably significantly more than the debt they wrote off for us. And that matters because................ Oh it doesn't. The council will never get that money back from yourselves. Discount? What? They got their money back and more, what are you going about? They made a profit! Shall we tell the ignorant twonk about the Stadium Development Company of which the council were a major shareholder from which the council made substantial profits on top of getting their initial capital outlay back in full? Lets not bother because he and they do not like the truth.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 28, 2014 12:11:48 GMT
The Fail were also offered a new stadium by the council the same time we were offered ours, where the nursing home top of Festival Park is now. They seem to forget that though.... That was the site of Vale Park before they moved to Hanley and it became Cobridge greyhound stadium The site they were offered in the 90s was around Tunstall but Billy Bell preferred to renovate VP They were also invited to look at a new stadium at Festival park but turned it down flat. Much of Vale's current problems trace back to Billy Bell deciding he would show Stoke and the Council by committing to build the Great White Elephant Lorne Street Stand on a scale and at a cost that was way above what was actually needed.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 27, 2014 19:07:00 GMT
If he's apparantly low on confidence the last thing he is going to do is throw him straight in at the deep end regardless of what he has won. Giving the start of the season to Ireland would be a better option for multiple reasons. Firstly Ireland played pretty well last season it's really his shirt to lose and continue to play well for & it's up to Bojan to knock him off that perch as a less pressured substitute. It says to Bojan he isn't the big fish in the small pond and it's up to all the team to get results not just him. It also allows him to integrate to the pace of this league at his own pace & with a 4 year contract i'm sure it won't take him 12 month. Well that's how i'd do it anyway. Back in the old days under Pulis id imagine that would be the case see Tuncay. Hughes has a different mentality. Under the old regime he would have been nailed on for a few months sat on the bench to "see what it was all about" while he got "Stoke fit" followed by a good old winter loan to Barnsley to toughen him up once it got a bit windy at the Brit.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 27, 2014 10:22:12 GMT
You obviously missed the point there. Massively. Nope I understand perfectly that physically David Silva isn't made for the PL. He also does go missing on occasions due to the fact I believe the game passes him by. In fairness you are clearly confusing the Premier League requirements for what is required to succeed in the League Division Toilet that you watch regularly. On that basis I believe Brown will be a good short term signing for you. As someone with influence at Crewe remarked yesterday whilst praising the signing, Brownie will run through walls all day and kick anything that moves.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 27, 2014 10:13:34 GMT
It was the first time in a while that I have seen our U21s in action and the chance came co-incidentally in the same week that I got the chance to see the Man United equivalent in action.
I don't want to start the game of picking out individual young lads for any criticism but it underlined for me generally what a massive catch up programme we are engaged in.
On the plus side I thought that the number 19 (Nardiello?)along with the lad who scored the last goal were technically up to standard and the big centre back had something about him.
Our boys played against a semi-pro team that were the same age as themselves and the only difference of note for many was a full time fitness level that allowed us to close and pressurise quicker. Technically you could have thrown a blanket over many.
The Man United group passed the legs off a Conference Premier side. We are still light years behind thanks to a decade of neglect and abuse of the process.
We have the facilities to match anyone these days. I hope we have the staff to match and patience will be rewarded in an area of the club that is vital to our long term health.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 25, 2014 21:38:07 GMT
A friend of mine is running the line, give him abuse please Im at the game so you can take it as a given!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 25, 2014 21:11:17 GMT
Haha, still hurt to the core I see......what was that even over? England being shit I think, genuinely can't remember. I think it was when you and Higgy decided the answer to all our woes was to play Gareth Never Was Good Enough Barry and Ashley Was Good Enough But Hasn't Played Since Dinosaurs Roamed The Planet Cole. There wont be any pensioners on the pitch for you to watch tomorrow you know?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 25, 2014 21:04:26 GMT
The game has been switched to 3pm at Stoke's request. Should be a good afternoon out. Will you be bringing Higgy so we know what we are looking at Bayern?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 25, 2014 21:02:26 GMT
Still good for ten - fifteen goals I reckon -with two agile front men attuned to top level football either side of him goals can and will flow yep I cant wait I think Tony Pulis would agree with you there... Watch this space. He would certainly agree with March and his forty point height of ambition.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 25, 2014 13:11:53 GMT
Development squad play Newcastle Town tomorrow (Saturday) at the Lyme Valley 3.00pm ko.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 22, 2014 21:01:57 GMT
I'm assuming this kiddie will be spending a few months watching what it all about from the bench before being sent out to toughen up at Barnsley?
Anyone know if he is any good in the wind?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 20, 2014 20:38:01 GMT
Can see the headlines now mate "14 year old Bojan lookalike gets kicked in the bollocks in savage attack" and on the back page "Bojan signs for Stoke in 3 year deal" Haha Mr P you're probably right I'll ring someone first to make sure :-) I wouldn't be ringing SL&P for facial recognition following their "exclusive spot" of John Guidetti!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 18, 2014 23:40:35 GMT
I personally don't, but it's Vale, and the fact is if the shoe was on the other foot and it was us in the shit they'd all be in hysterics and actively praying for us to go out of business, so fuck them, good riddance. Not all of them would... Just people like you. And me!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 16, 2014 15:59:54 GMT
Stoke the only place where the women are rougher than the men. Your clearly 20 years out of date if you think you can buy England u21 players for 3million, shit scottish players in the championship are going for 10+, Mccormack and Rhodes if you stokies are now too high up in the football heavens to pay any attention to the place where you belong. We are just about to start our 60th season in top flight of English Football. By means of comparison, Norwich have had 24 seasons in the top league so I would say we are very much "where we belong". Indeed. I think he is better off benchmarking Kings Lynn Town.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 16, 2014 12:06:10 GMT
Chill out mate, not even gonna bother reading that drivel. Weather he wants to go or not it won't be for 6million. You clearly can't afford the fees required to buy promising young english players so this thread is dead. Ah. Clearly your in depth knowledge of the financial health and policies of football clubs doesn't extend as far as Stoke City. Perhaps you need to brush up on the ownership and our record as far as net transfer spending in recent times. It is all a little more substantial than the wages of a cook offers.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 14, 2014 21:48:59 GMT
When people are suggesting that Ryan is being left out of the England team on the back of a media conspiracy we have reached overload on the wankometer and it really is a very slow news week.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 13, 2014 18:40:29 GMT
I don't think the selection of Smalling and Jones in the tournament squad was based on whether either were a better centre half than Ryan, Jamo. They were in the squad as defenders though, Mark and primarily central defenders. Hodgson's squad and general balance was a joke and his tactics were akin to a kid playing FIFA on their XBox. Totally disagree. Hodgson's willingness to not play the safe cards and give tournament experience to the most promising young talent rather than look after his own ass should be applauded to the skies. Hopefully if those young players develop we will be all the stronger for it in the future. Yourself and a few others are hanging him and abusing him because and only because he didn't pick Ryan Shawcross. Ask yourself in what parts of this country other than this locality is the omission of Ryan being seen as a controversial decision to be debated? The leaving behind of Cole (and taking the Southampton lad) who hasn't had a kick for Chelsea all year will be seen as a more worthy discussion point, I wager. An awful lot of perspective is being lost here in my view.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 13, 2014 18:09:41 GMT
Not to mention people who really think that Ryan's suitability for international football has actually been judged on the basis of that, eh Jamo? I'm positive you are not one of them? So you think it's been assessed that Ryan isn't as good as Smalling and Jones, Mark? Christ the scouting and coaching in this country is worse than even you allude to. I don't think the selection of Smalling and Jones in the tournament squad was based on whether either were a better centre half than Ryan, Jamo.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 13, 2014 17:46:05 GMT
I would because only a fucking idiot would write a player off after 20 minutes. Sadly we have such a fucking idiot in charge of the national team. Not to mention people who really think that Ryan's suitability for international football has actually been judged on the basis of that, eh Jamo? I'm positive you are not one of them?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 13, 2014 6:59:46 GMT
Didnt Peter Dobing have a paper shop somewhere in Longton Tony Allen had one in Blyth Bridge.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 8, 2014 8:48:16 GMT
Bego for the number of clean sheets and crucial saves in the last 3 or 4 seasons. Ryan for work rate, dedication and great captaincy. Huth, barring last seasons injuries for solid performances and partnership with Ryan. Ric for the goals earlier in our Prem life. Mama, as above. Etherington, a great couple of seasons. Crouch, some great goals, Abby Titmus, AND NOT DOING THE ROBOT. Crouch is seeing Abby Titmus..!!! Now there's a revelation...... Or do you perhaps mean Abbey Clancy.. .? ;-) And there was me thinking that the howling mistake in that list was Mama which was compounded by cross referencing Mama to goal scoring!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 7, 2014 16:44:30 GMT
Out of interest, Momo, what do you think Pulis's starting eleven might have been in the World Cup? Hart Jones Shawcross Cahill Cole Gerrard Barry Lallana Barkley Sterling Rooney We would have won it Have you discovered a parallel universe Pulis, Sheiky? There is less chance of him picking the young pacey players in that team than there is of Vale coughing up what they owe to the council! Lets be sensible and start with Couchie at number 9 and go from there!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 6, 2014 19:40:32 GMT
Correct John. He didn't make any announcement and as I have pointed out elsewhere he will be re-joining us as the new season gets closer. Tazi will return the moment a relegation threat emerges. There must be more to people's lives than to analyse football message board behaviour, surely? Perhaps we need a real professional opinion. OK, enough's enough. "He will be rejoining us as the new season gets closer" This ITK bollocks has gone far enough!!!! I have it from a very good 'sauce'. The bloke who knows the lad who delivers Rob's newspapers said it was so!
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