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Post by stokie1130 on Aug 4, 2014 8:45:57 GMT
Cant say I have watched many of the friendlys as ive been wprking or put with the kids, so can any one who has tell me how hes been playing? Does he seem switched on? And a threat?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 4, 2014 8:50:20 GMT
I thought he looked OK yesterday.
If anything I didn't expect him to be such a team player as he had a few opportunities to shoot but elected to pass which surprised me a bit.
His link up play was good and he's mobile.
I'm very hopeful but he does need to shoot more on yesterday's showing.
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 8:54:39 GMT
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Post by stokie1130 on Aug 4, 2014 8:54:39 GMT
I thought he looked OK yesterday. If anything I didn't expect him to be such a team player as he had a few opportunities to shoot but elected to pass which surprised me a bit. His link up play was good and he's mobile. I'm very hopeful but he does need to shoot more on yesterday's showing. Cheers dude, obviously I know there only friendlys and we have another couple to go but I was hoping hed of netted at least one or 2 by now but I suppose there is still time and hopefully he will when it counts
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 4, 2014 9:13:49 GMT
I think he'll be better judged when playing in competitive games,
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 9:18:38 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Aug 4, 2014 9:18:38 GMT
....and I think Hughes must stop playing him on the right! Give him time in his best position which is on top! I think he has said before that he isn'too fond of playing on the wing (said that about his Blackburn stay I think). If he is going to adapt quite quickly it would surely be better playing him in his natural position and the position he hopefully was brought in to play in!
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 9:26:48 GMT
Post by Macko on Aug 4, 2014 9:26:48 GMT
Good pace, strong on the ball and good touch and vision. Clearly still settling in, but he looks very promising, especially as the middle front man.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 4, 2014 9:36:14 GMT
....and I think Hughes must stop playing him on the right! Give him time in his best position which is on top! I think he has said before that he isn'too fond of playing on the wing (said that about his Blackburn stay I think). If he is going to adapt quite quickly it would surely be better playing him in his natural position and the position he hopefully was brought in to play in! He played through the middle yesterday, mate.
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 9:49:47 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Aug 4, 2014 9:49:47 GMT
....and I think Hughes must stop playing him on the right! Give him time in his best position which is on top! I think he has said before that he isn'too fond of playing on the wing (said that about his Blackburn stay I think). If he is going to adapt quite quickly it would surely be better playing him in his natural position and the position he hopefully was brought in to play in! He played through the middle yesterday, mate. Hopefully he did (no streams or radio where I could watch/listen to the game), but the game before I think he was put on the right wing. Diouf is a striker not a winger! Give him time to adapt in his preferred role I say.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 4, 2014 10:14:11 GMT
He played through the middle yesterday, mate. Hopefully he did (no streams or radio where I could watch/listen to the game), but the game before I think he was put on the right wing. Diouf is a striker not a winger! Give him time to adapt in his preferred role I say. I like the look of him yesterday. Very hopeful of him being an excellent addition.
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 10:19:42 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Aug 4, 2014 10:19:42 GMT
Hopefully he did (no streams or radio where I could watch/listen to the game), but the game before I think he was put on the right wing. Diouf is a striker not a winger! Give him time to adapt in his preferred role I say. I like the look of him yesterday. Very hopeful of him being an excellent addition. We know he is quick, we know he works hard, but we are yet to see if he can score the same amount of goals as he did in Germany! Hopefully he will and I also think we'll be more exciting as a team with pace up front. Crouch is a good player, but he certainly slows us down and makes us more predictable.
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Post by lordb on Aug 4, 2014 12:26:06 GMT
He could do with a goal early on - within first 3 games.
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 12:31:27 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 4, 2014 12:31:27 GMT
Think he will get more chances and score as and when we play our first choice team, now everyone is fit.
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 12:40:30 GMT
Post by cheadlestokie on Aug 4, 2014 12:40:30 GMT
I think the team needs to get used to his runs which he made a number of times btetween the centre- half and the full-back but the ball didnt come.This is of course quite differnt from the centre forwards we have played since Ricardo left.Takes time to get to know new players. I was very suprised when he chose to pass when in the area on one occasion yesterday,rather than shoot.Thought he would have a go as he surely is desperate to get off the mark asap.
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 13:25:05 GMT
Post by unknown182 on Aug 4, 2014 13:25:05 GMT
I think Diouf will score more than Crouch did last year. There were so many moments when we created opportunities and we needed a more mobile striker to get on the end of things for tap ins or headers. I'm confident Diouf will be able to put them away.
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 13:45:02 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Aug 4, 2014 13:45:02 GMT
Wingie..Diouf..Arnie look like a mobile and strong trio! Where to fit Bojan, Ireland and Adam in is another question!?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 4, 2014 14:06:43 GMT
Bojan has to be involved for me after seeing him "live".
I'm not that fussed where but he looked more than fine on the right side of the "front" three.
Ireland would play leaving Odemingie to fight with Diouf for a starting berth.
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Aug 4, 2014 14:13:07 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 4, 2014 14:13:07 GMT
Bojan has to be involved for me after seeing him "live". I'm not that fussed where but he looked more than fine on the right side of the "front" three. Ireland would play leaving Odemingie to fight with Diouf for a starting berth. Hughes likes his wide men to get back and cover the full backs though, is this something we would want Bojan to do? I could see it becoming a fight between Diouf and Bojan for the centre forward role unless Diouf works on the right.
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 14:14:28 GMT
Post by pottersrule on Aug 4, 2014 14:14:28 GMT
Bojan has to be involved for me after seeing him "live". I'm not that fussed where but he looked more than fine on the right side of the "front" three. Ireland would play leaving Odemingie to fight with Diouf for a starting berth. How did Ireland play Jamo?He seems to be getting a lot of game time.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 4, 2014 14:25:42 GMT
Bojan has to be involved for me after seeing him "live". I'm not that fussed where but he looked more than fine on the right side of the "front" three. Ireland would play leaving Odemingie to fight with Diouf for a starting berth. How did Ireland play Jamo?He seems to be getting a lot of game time. I thought he did well, mate. His general play is very clever and he's mobile which suits the system. I expect him to be a starter.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 4, 2014 14:26:49 GMT
Bojan has to be involved for me after seeing him "live". I'm not that fussed where but he looked more than fine on the right side of the "front" three. Ireland would play leaving Odemingie to fight with Diouf for a starting berth. Hughes likes his wide men to get back and cover the full backs though, is this something we would want Bojan to do? I could see it becoming a fight between Diouf and Bojan for the centre forward role unless Diouf works on the right. In think that's where Bardsley comes in, Paul - defensive stability. I honestly can't see Bojan as the main striker though.
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 14:59:09 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 4, 2014 14:59:09 GMT
Hughes likes his wide men to get back and cover the full backs though, is this something we would want Bojan to do? I could see it becoming a fight between Diouf and Bojan for the centre forward role unless Diouf works on the right. In think that's where Bardsley comes in, Paul - defensive stability. I honestly can't see Bojan as the main striker though. Shame because I think Bojan will score a truckload more than Diouf will as the main striker.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 4, 2014 15:00:41 GMT
In think that's where Bardsley comes in, Paul - defensive stability. I honestly can't see Bojan as the main striker though. Shame because I think Bojan will score a truckload more than Diouf will as the main striker. I just think the system needs a point man, Gary and I don't see him holding off a centre half and brining the midfield into play.
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Aug 4, 2014 15:08:51 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 4, 2014 15:08:51 GMT
Shame because I think Bojan will score a truckload more than Diouf will as the main striker. I just think the system needs a point man, Gary and I don't see him holding off a centre half and brining the midfield into play. Oh absolutely Rich, however I was envisaging him playing the role as he did against Schalke as a false number 9. Essentially we would use different tactics against different opposition or at different stages of a game. Sometimes we would play to Diouf's strengths and at other times we would play to suit Bojan.
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 15:14:30 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 4, 2014 15:14:30 GMT
Shame because I think Bojan will score a truckload more than Diouf will as the main striker. I just think the system needs a point man, Gary and I don't see him holding off a centre half and brining the midfield into play. Why? Liverpool played a similar system to ours last season and didn't need one.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 4, 2014 15:16:35 GMT
I just think the system needs a point man, Gary and I don't see him holding off a centre half and brining the midfield into play. Why? Liverpool played a similar system to ours last season and didn't need one. I guess we will see but I'd be very surprised. Liverpool also often played two up front and I can't see us doing that.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 4, 2014 15:18:00 GMT
I just think the system needs a point man, Gary and I don't see him holding off a centre half and brining the midfield into play. Oh absolutely Rich, however I was envisaging him playing the role as he did against Schalke as a false number 9. Essentially we would use different tactics against different opposition or at different stages of a game. Sometimes we would play to Diouf's strengths and at other times we would play to suit Bojan. I don't think it'll be set in stone, Paul as Hughes's experimentation during pre season suggests. There will be a "Plan A" but we might get all the way to Z before next May!
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 15:18:24 GMT
Post by mrcoke on Aug 4, 2014 15:18:24 GMT
I just think the system needs a point man, Gary and I don't see him holding off a centre half and brining the midfield into play. Oh absolutely Rich, however I was envisaging him playing the role as he did against Schalke as a false number 9. Essentially we would use different tactics against different opposition or at different stages of a game. Sometimes we would play to Diouf's strengths and at other times we would play to suit Bojan. Yes exactly, and different teams against different opponents. I would expect MH to play it totally different (team and tactics) between West Brom at home and ManC away, given a choice of players, which he now has "in spades".
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 15:20:15 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 4, 2014 15:20:15 GMT
Why? Liverpool played a similar system to ours last season and didn't need one. I guess we will see but I'd be very surprised. Liverpool also often played two up front and I can't see us doing that. There were a number of games after Xmas we played 2 up top (albeit Walters being one)
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 4, 2014 15:22:32 GMT
I guess we will see but I'd be very surprised. Liverpool also often played two up front and I can't see us doing that. There were a number of games after Xmas we played 2 up top (albeit Walters being one) Was there? Walters may have played but he wasn't playing up front was he? We played 4231 for most of the season didn't we?
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Diouf
Aug 4, 2014 15:26:46 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 4, 2014 15:26:46 GMT
There were a number of games after Xmas we played 2 up top (albeit Walters being one) Was there? Walters may have played but he wasn't playing up front was he? We played 4231 for most of the season didn't we? Yeah we switched to 442 or 4411 whichever way you look at it when he played Walters just off Crouch, think it started around the United game. He did revert to 4231 a few games later.
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