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Post by cousindupree on Aug 10, 2019 19:11:03 GMT
The reality was he wasn't the worst either, would you rather have McClean or Ward than Pieters ? I wouldn't want any of them, I'd have Clucas there. Wow are you really saying Clucas is a better left back than Pieters? Holy shit! OK he is now the best we have I agree. Jones had only been at his desk for a few minutes before he decided that Pieters wasn't for him even though apart from Tymon he was the only LB in the building and decided to go with BMI who he has since bombed. It was a naive move presumably Pieters was the victim of Jones the new manager flexing his muscles. If you don't have riches in one department you stick with what you have and you only get rid if a) The player is trouble and you have fallen out with him. That's clearly not the case and according to Pieters there was no fall out b) The player wants out, I personally spoke to Erik who said his preferred choice would be to stay at SCFC c) You have an immediate replacement lined up. Huge error of judgement by an inexperienced manager to bomb a player and replace him with a CB and then fast forward to a new season where he has to try and convert a winger to left back. People are saying Erik was hopeless and yet here we are with him playing in the Prem. A very astute Sean Dyche rates him and took him and gave us in return a 34 yr old Ward after a final payday who we will be reluctant to play too often as it will trigger a one year extension on his contract....holy shit!! What a shambles |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 10, 2019 18:57:19 GMT
Jones is an inexperienced manager and clearly struggling at this level. We saw last season many of his substitutions were just blatantly wrong.
Today we saw another error of judgement. I don't blame him for bringing on Duffy, Charlton were clearly rocking and we were on the front foot. You could only see one winner, it was a positive move to be applauded.
But why in place of Woods who had looked decent at the base of the diamond and sling Joe Allen in there who hasn't actually played that role? If Woods was carrying a knock or running out of steam then substitute like for like with Cousins, but not sure he was.
The right call would have been Duffy for Ince.
It was a naive substitution again from Jones. For all our sakes lets hope he learns fast!!!
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 10, 2019 18:44:25 GMT
Exacly as advertised by the Millwall fans. Very willing, surprisingly neat and tidy, never stops running, fans favourite material.........and wildly erratic finisher! Perfect summary of him and what we saw today. There is a reason why he has never scored more than 10 goals at this level and we saw it today. Expect around 10 again this season. The concern for me is that a) For whatever reason last week Jones started with Afobe and Vokes...wtf! why wasn't Gregory started? and b) He looks by some distance our best striker. Maybe Hogan will come good and hit his Brentford form or Vokes turn into the player he was 6 years ago.  |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 10, 2019 16:05:52 GMT
Pleased for Erik back at his level. I thought Ward was poor slow and looking every inch a 34 yr old getting a final payoff. Oh well JM will be back next week Eriks departure seemed strange at the time and it gets more bizarre as the season progresses. Really poor judgement by the manager on this one |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 10, 2019 11:28:02 GMT
would have been going to a game in the same league as sandbach utd if I wasnt stuck in work at Stevenage today, so close to Charlton as well, if we do finish early I wont be going to watch Stevenage though Hi Chris...good luck to Barnton time to come back to the Premier League and join the Alport |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 10, 2019 11:23:19 GMT
What level is that? Sandbach is basically one above Sunday league I think but they try to play some good football but are so naive. ..... someone posted on here not that long ago highlights from Sandbach v Northwich Victoria. Thought the standard was actually pretty good, but maybe I’m comparing it with FNQ (I’m still playing 3rd Div & I’m 60!.) One of the players even had a bigger gut than me, but I think he was an ex-pro Sandbach is level 10 in the football pyramid play in the NWCFL, the standard is significantly higher than sunday league. |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 10, 2019 11:21:36 GMT
I am over from the USA and went to watch my home town team play last Monday Whitchurch Alport v Hanley Town (4-1) in the NWCFL it's level 9. The quality of the football was excellent and the facilities and atmosphere generated by 350 people was very enjoyable. I try and get to see them a 3 or 4 times.
People really should experience games at this level, plenty of teams local to SOT play in the NWCFL
They even have an electronic scoreboard in the corner and rerun the video recording of the game in the clubhouse a few minutes after the match has finished!
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 10, 2019 8:24:00 GMT
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I have a feeling that Jones will get back to what he does best....drawing football matches. Starting at the bookies favourites for the drop.
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 10, 2019 8:21:11 GMT
Aah Kurt Happy Zouma is he still at Chelsea?
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 9, 2019 14:08:29 GMT
Another recent Blades player......so i’ll give you a run down on Hogan. His work rate and attitude was really good. His ability was average......he was never impressive at any time but was always busy putting in a shift for the team, very good off the ball chasing down defenders and making runs playing off the shoulder of their last man. So always keeping opposition defenders busy, giving them something to worry about. Every Blade I’ve spoke to have no good words to say about him....but (unlike Villa fans) no one has any bad words to say about him either. He was generally sub (an insurance policy to cover injuries) and when ever he came on he was always OK (6 of 7 out of 10), looking no better than average Championship standard. Cheers Blade.But but but some posters on hear are suggesting 15+ goals from him and looking at our strike options he has to get near that for us to score enough goals to get us anywhere near playoffs. |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 8, 2019 21:18:43 GMT
Going forward when all fit Jones's preferred starting xi will be
Butland
Smith Baath Lindsay McClean
Cousins
Allen Etebo
Powell
Vokes Hogan
Subs
Federici
Clucas
Carter Vickers
Edwards
Ince
Duffy
Gregory
He will stick with his quest to turn McClean into a LWB and Cousins into Ngolo Kante.
Campbell Collins Verlinden all out on loan
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 8, 2019 21:04:27 GMT
4 Lots of players coming and has made the squad stronger but the first xi still looks decidedly average although the addition up front is welcome. The likes of Ward, Gregory, Carter Vickers and Duffy are squad fillers or on the bench at best.The most interesting aspect is who is on the bench Jones's preferred starting xi is pretty much decided.
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 8, 2019 20:52:19 GMT
The QPR game for me was a huge worry as it was a carbon copy of many games last season. Even after the transfers in this window the first xi is not going to look radically different or better than the one that started last weekend. Even when all fit only Etebo for Clucas Lindsay for Collins and Hogan for Afobe will be the changes in the same diamond system. Not sure if those changes will be enough to get us top half.
But the bench looks strong and I expect to finish around 12th. But it's important we don't keep losing to the teams that are likely to be around us in the bottom half like QPR and Charlton.
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 8, 2019 12:16:02 GMT
Sheffield United? He's going to do a 360 if they end up going down, he'll be back in the same position he is now. So much for talk of Everton and Sevilla. My arse. If Sheff U have done 5 minutes due diligence here they would opt for a loan. If they go down it will be groundhog day for Badou and they will have to manage the shit we have had to with him not wanting Champs level. A loan would be a smart bit of business for them. |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 8, 2019 9:28:13 GMT
There is an option to buy at the end of the loan so it seems he is surplus to Villa requirements and we were not sure we wanted to buy hence the loan. He is one of many signings we have made with a big 'If' surrounding him. Still a low risk signing but smacks of a bang average striker being added to a group of other bang average strikers in a at best midtable side. Bet your the life and soul of the party mate, you've played ONE game had a poor result, 45 games to go nothing is decided in August personally I think you'll make the play offs once your bang average striker's start firing UTV I am actually thanks for noticing and I will invite you to one of my famous parties. The reaction to the first game by many on here was the surprise that after a full pre-season and a transfer window the performance on saturday was a carbon copy of many shambles of last season. I would have been happy to see a glimpse of progress but there wasn't any....thats the point which in fairness to an outsider you wouldn't recognise. |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 8, 2019 9:17:11 GMT
If Bielsa at Leeds wanted him then for a mid/lower half club to sign him is a bit of a coup. well done on this one Mr Scholes.
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 8, 2019 9:13:39 GMT
All I'd say is give him a chance and he'll deliver, he's never really had a run at The Villa due to injury and different managers if you can give him the service he may turn out to be a decent signing there's a reason deano has only loaned him and it's not because he's crap he just needs to regain his confidence and if he does you'll enjoy his stay UTV There is an option to buy at the end of the loan so it seems he is surplus to Villa requirements and we were not sure we wanted to buy hence the loan. He is one of many signings we have made with a big 'If' surrounding him. Still a low risk signing but smacks of a bang average striker being added to a group of other bang average strikers in a at best midtable side. |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 7, 2019 20:52:25 GMT
We’ve watched him 25 times though ! Probably the 10 min cameo for Leeds x 25 times....process box ticked and he did ok for another lower championship team in Rotherham. I guess we are at this level now. Given his injury issues if it happens it's not the smartest young player loan that's been made this window, but guess it's better than nobody. Seems a bit bizarre last minute deal. |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 7, 2019 18:58:28 GMT
I have to say his recruitment has taken me by surprise. I think I heard somewhere in his tirade of positivity that he likes young athletic and hungry players (sic).
We get Sam Vokes (30 in Oct), Lee Gregory (31 in Aug),Tommy Smith (27), Scott Hogan (27) and the evergreen Stephen Ward (34 in Aug).
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 7, 2019 18:46:44 GMT
Well Bielsa, by some margin the stand out manager in this league has made 4 loan signings and about to add a fifth with the kiddie from Arsenal. It almost worked for Lampard last season who had 3 outstanding loanees as regulars. It's about loaning high quality young players looking to perform and prove a point in their career progression. Not 27 yr olds not wanted by their club. Indeed - using the loan system should be about bringing in quality players that we simply wouldn't be able to sign permanently due to our position and subsequent finances/attractiveness. (I'm not convinced that Hogan falls into that category to be honest.) Indeed clearly Villa want to sell hence the option to buy in the deal. I guess we are not sure hence the loan rather than purchase. We were prepared to splash out on Gayle but not Hogan it seems. Doesn't bode well, but maybe he is a lucky talisman having gained promo with 2 clubs last season....could be a masterstroke by our esteemed recruitment team. |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 7, 2019 18:40:23 GMT
He even said 'god willing' in his announcement  Ha ha he actually did! Clearly a Jones soulmate from day one then. 'Wonderful player....wonderful person' |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 7, 2019 18:34:26 GMT
Im sure he said it in an interview when he first arrived saying he wasn't a fan of the system. Ah, ok. Difficult to know the context in which it was said without hearing/reading it I guess, but I don't think there are many managers that are 'fans' of it; they'd all prefer to have their own players signed up in the security of not having them recalled or losing them after a season surely? He's used the loan system plenty before though so he's clearly not totally averse to using it if he needs to. Well Bielsa, by some margin the stand out manager in this league has made 4 loan signings and about to add a fifth with the kiddie from Arsenal. It almost worked for Lampard last season who had 3 outstanding loanees as regulars. It's about loaning high quality young players looking to perform and prove a point in their career progression. Not 27 yr olds not wanted by their club. |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 7, 2019 8:05:11 GMT
Still you’ve got to ask why. And then the season he barely played, they go up. Coincidence I know but still amusing. Well Villa clearly realised taht he wasn't anywhere near prolific to get them into the playoffs so they astutely went for Abrahams on loan....25 goals later they are back in the top flight. Whereas our esteemed manager and recruitment team think otherwise. I guess we wait and see if he turns out to be Hero Hogan (a tip to the tv series) or filed along with so many of our strikers in the pack marked dud. |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 6, 2019 21:09:36 GMT
Where's staffsvilla when you need him?
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 6, 2019 20:55:59 GMT
Nathan needs to get back to what he does best and that's engineering 0-0 draws. I am sure he will maybe starting on saturday. With the odd win thrown in we will have enough to stay up. Anyhow there must be 3 worse teams in this league? Hopefully  |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 6, 2019 17:01:41 GMT
What a proper shit send off that is for him. The club really don't help themselves at times do they? I'm not one for slushy send offs, but Bojan deserves more than that, even it was just a montage of some of his best goals. It's poor from the club and shows how out of touch they are with the fan base. Nobody who has any affiliation to the club would deny he was a huge fan favourite, possibly the most popular player to leave in for many years and a couple of standard lines is all they could manage. I don't want anything over the top but the comercial/PR/Marketing dept is starting to piss me off. Get a grip Scholes...quickly |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 5, 2019 16:57:45 GMT
Only British and Irish players in the starting xi on saturday. Jones has said he prefers good old Brit and Irish graft. With most of our overseas players gone or in the bomb squad and no new recruits from overseas his ethnic cleansing is almost complete 😁 On a serious note if he wants to progress as a manager even at champs level he has to reconsider this entrenched view. Out of interest wonder when the last time no foreign player was in the starting xi What constitutes foreign Afobe plays for DR Congo but was born in London. Ha ha somehow forgot about Afobe wonder why😀 Admin shit bin please |
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 5, 2019 16:44:18 GMT
Only British and Irish players in the starting xi on saturday. Jones has said he prefers good old Brit and Irish graft. With most of our overseas players gone or in the bomb squad and no new recruits from overseas his ethnic cleansing is almost complete 😁
On a serious note if he wants to progress as a manager even at champs level he has to reconsider this entrenched view.
Out of interest wonder when the last time no foreign player was in the starting xi
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 5, 2019 12:47:41 GMT
There are many conundrums that surround our football club but Bauer has to be the strangest.
Given a lengthy new contract which was applauded by many on here only to become an outcast shunned by both Rowett and Jones.
The main criticism seems to be his positioning and yet on the other side we have McClean who often looks like he is in a daze when defending. Yet Jones believes JM ticks all the boxes and he can turn him into a wing back. Why doesn't the same apply to Bauer? He is supposedly highly intelligent so surely open to learning. Instead he was hardly given a chance.
I would suggest Bauer is more of a natural wing back even with flaws than McClean will ever be. It can only his character that Jones doesn't like. Surprised Jones's super man management skills hasn't tuned him around....or did he even bother?
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 5, 2019 10:45:08 GMT
Our only hope would seem to be pushing for a permanent deal at a figure WBA and Leeds wouldn't meet. But I'd be uncomfortable going above £11-12m given his age and wages - and would Newcastle go for that? If the alternative is just a season loan taking him to close to his 31st birthday and into the last year of his deal - maybe they would? Yes that would seem to be our only hope. It would be a big gamble on getting a promotion payback. But tbh I am not sure looking at our current starting xi that he would actually be the difference between getting promoted and missing out. We look decidedly mid table at best. |
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