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Post by elystokie on Nov 23, 2024 6:14:22 GMT
They weren’t creating prison spaces to jail people for offensive tweets. Ah yes , the poor tweeters, the real victims in all this . One of the stranger aspects of this thread has been that some who say that the scum at Manchester would have been shot in some countries, are falling over themselves arguing that the Tweeters have been harshly treated for inciting civil unrest online, when doing so in those same countries would probably see them disappear for life. That is a very strange aspect 🤔 I'm sure it'll be addressed in due course..
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2024 9:26:14 GMT
I take it this will be consistently applied across the board🤔
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Post by Northy on Nov 26, 2024 9:51:56 GMT
I take it this will be consistently applied across the board🤔 That can't be true, it takes months and months, maybe up to 12 months to prosecute according to some on here...
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Post by Northy on Nov 26, 2024 9:54:59 GMT
im asking to get involved in all or none we all know the rioters were largely due to tommy robinson type inclinations/arguments. we also know that hese same people are largely the ones moaning about manchester. The optics do not look good when he gets involved in one without the other he brings this on himself You honestly can’t see the difference between meddling in a specific case of assault involving a police complaint, and telling the ministry for justice that to help quell the rioters please move as quickly as you can to protect more innocent people from being hurt and communities from being smashed up? And what would you say to the rape victim whose perpetrator is not investigated as quickly because all resources are being put on this assault at the airport? How would the optics of that look? He didnt need to speak to the ministry of justice, just tell the police to go in and break the riots up.
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Post by phileetin on Nov 26, 2024 9:56:53 GMT
he must have pleaded guilty , like the tweeters.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 26, 2024 10:24:23 GMT
You honestly can’t see the difference between meddling in a specific case of assault involving a police complaint, and telling the ministry for justice that to help quell the rioters please move as quickly as you can to protect more innocent people from being hurt and communities from being smashed up? And what would you say to the rape victim whose perpetrator is not investigated as quickly because all resources are being put on this assault at the airport? How would the optics of that look? He didnt need to speak to the ministry of justice, just tell the police to go in and break the riots up. If he is a responsible PM he will have spoken to his Home Sec and Justice Minister about how best to stop the riots and restore law and order. Ultimately it doesn’t matter what Starmer does. He will be criticised for it.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 26, 2024 15:25:30 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 26, 2024 16:35:20 GMT
Chris Kaba was shot in September 2022. It took over two years for that case to conclude after the shooting. Delay in the justice system is normal because of tory cuts and the length of time and effort and resources it takes to build a criminal case.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 26, 2024 16:41:11 GMT
Chris Kaba was shot in September 2022. It took over two years for that case to conclude after the shooting. Delay in the justice system is normal because of tory cuts and the length of time and effort and resources it takes to build a criminal case. It's amazing how austerity and the decimation of vital services are airbrushed from history. The criminal justice system is in turmoil (and was before Covid which of course didn't help)
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 26, 2024 16:42:33 GMT
Well, if Jeremy Kyle says it then who am I to argue?
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 26, 2024 16:44:35 GMT
I take it this will be consistently applied across the board🤔 I’m sure once charged, if the perpetrators plead guilty they will be dealt with swiftly. Like this guy was. But first the investigation into the police officer must conclude.
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Post by emretezzy on Nov 26, 2024 16:46:13 GMT
I take it this will be consistently applied across the board🤔 I’m sure once charged, if the perpetrators plead guilty they will be dealt with swiftly. Like this guy was. But first the investigation into the police officer must conclude. And you no there wasn't a review in the above case how? You are going to die on this hill aren't you.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 26, 2024 17:01:09 GMT
I’m sure once charged, if the perpetrators plead guilty they will be dealt with swiftly. Like this guy was. But first the investigation into the police officer must conclude. And you no there wasn't a review in the above case how? You are going to die on this hill aren't you. You want me to prove a negative! It is easy enough for you to prove the police complaint and investigation if it indeed exists as you say it does. I will stand by the irrefutable fact that all criminal cases are different. Clearly there are many people on here who thinks every case is identical, no matter the charge, the plea, the circumstances of the case, the availability of evidence, the prior convictions of the defendant etc etc etc. Those many people lack basic intelligence.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 26, 2024 17:46:01 GMT
Chris Kaba was shot in September 2022. It took over two years for that case to conclude after the shooting. Delay in the justice system is normal because of tory cuts and the length of time and effort and resources it takes to build a criminal case. It's amazing how austerity and the decimation of vital services are airbrushed from history. The criminal justice system is in turmoil (and was before Covid which of course didn't help) I find it absolutely astonishing that certain sectors of society are more than happy to experience cognitive dissonance over this and just shrug their shoulders. Fucking hell 🤷
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Post by emretezzy on Nov 26, 2024 20:26:40 GMT
And you no there wasn't a review in the above case how? You are going to die on this hill aren't you. You want me to prove a negative! It is easy enough for you to prove the police complaint and investigation if it indeed exists as you say it does. I will stand by the irrefutable fact that all criminal cases are different. Clearly there are many people on here who thinks every case is identical, no matter the charge, the plea, the circumstances of the case, the availability of evidence, the prior convictions of the defendant etc etc etc. Those many people lack basic intelligence. Yes all cases are different. This one just had someone on CCTV try to maim three police firearm officers including a women.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Nov 26, 2024 21:49:07 GMT
They’ll be quietly let off with a caution.
The native people of Great Britain are no longer the priority in this country.
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