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Post by ceejays on Jun 4, 2024 15:04:58 GMT
Can’t do linky things . The Times no less are reporting Man City to launch legal action against Premier League . 115 charges likely to be dropped. Good for them I say
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Post by Northy on Jun 4, 2024 15:10:00 GMT
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/29c358cd-9522-4e2d-b21d-4336b22561a2?shareToken=b63ee34d575c405abb241d603045ed3bManchester City have launched an unprecedented legal action against the Premier League in a move that has sparked civil war in English football’s top flight. The dispute, which has become a battle between the most powerful clubs in the country, will be settled after a two-week private arbitration hearing starting on Monday. The outcome could dramatically alter the landscape of the professional game and have a significant impact on a separate hearing set for November into City’s 115 alleged breaches of the Premier League’s regulations and financial rules. That hearing, expected to last six weeks, could lead to massive fines for the club owners and possibly even relegation for Pep Guardiola’s all-conquering side. At next week’s hearing, which has provoked bitter divisions between clubs, City will attempt to end the league’s Associated Party Transaction (APT) rules, which they claim are unlawful, and seek damages from the Premier League. Introduced in December 2021 in the wake of the Saudi-led takeover of Newcastle United, the rules are designed to maintain the competitiveness of the Premier League by preventing clubs from inflating commercial deals with companies linked to their owners. The rules dictate that such transactions have to be independently assessed to be of “fair market value” (FMV). But within an 165-page legal document City argue that they are the victims of “discrimination”, describing rules they say have been approved by their rivals to stifle their success on the pitch as a “tyranny of the majority”.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jun 4, 2024 15:17:44 GMT
Money talks. Gouranga.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2024 15:19:20 GMT
So that's that then, all the family have to do is drive up to Preston to the EFL offices, unzip and drop it on to the table, and off we go treading all over FFP...
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Post by teenagefanclub on Jun 4, 2024 15:20:20 GMT
Does this open the door for a 500 million pound bet365 sponsorship deal for ourselves?
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Post by st3mark on Jun 4, 2024 15:21:29 GMT
Hope city get relegated off the back of it.
We've all watched them break the rules even since before we got in the prem.
Them and Chelsea deserve anything they get.
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Post by Northy on Jun 4, 2024 15:21:58 GMT
So that's that then, all the family have to do is drive up to Preston to the EFL offices, unzip and drop it on to the table, and off we go treading all over FFP... Yep, get BET365 to sponsor a corner flag for £50 million and away we go. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 4, 2024 15:24:29 GMT
Can’t do linky things . The Times no less are reporting Man City to launch legal action against Premier League . 115 charges likely to be dropped. Good for them I say Why is this good? It would mean the likes of Man City simply buying success through dodgy sponsorship deals and making the league even less competitive than it is at the moment and it means they would get away with their past breaches of the regulations that other clubs abided by. It stinks. |
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Post by jay1610 on Jun 4, 2024 15:26:08 GMT
I hope they throw the book at them.
Their blood money has far-reaching consequences that are strangling the professional game at all levels.
But it won’t happen, they have the right legal team and finances to drag out the fight. So we know how it ends.
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Post by ceejays on Jun 4, 2024 15:33:26 GMT
We avoided FFP by selling ground to Bet365. A certain Stanley Matthews was he not paid by a directors building company as well as Stoke ? It’s gone on for decades in various forms. Man Utd were bought with debt which is a clear breach of FFP . On a different tack Fergie intimidated for years .
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Post by northernstokie on Jun 4, 2024 15:35:32 GMT
Surley if they buy the way out of this then every other team will lawyer up against the EPL
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jun 4, 2024 15:43:29 GMT
If they get away with it then it shows ffp to be the absolute bollocks that it is.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jun 4, 2024 15:44:01 GMT
Its not even about money - there is MASSIVE political implications if Man City are penalised.
The Saudi's have made it clear to the British government - if they punish Man City then dont try selling any of your defence products to us and pay a bit more for our precious oil.
The whole delay behind the scenes until this hearing in November now!! Its all because this has reached governmental level.
The Premier League should NEVER have let foreign governments own football clubs. Not just because of the insane levels of money but OF COURSE there are political implications.
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Post by callas12 on Jun 4, 2024 15:52:02 GMT
Can’t do linky things . The Times no less are reporting Man City to launch legal action against Premier League . 115 charges likely to be dropped. Good for them I say Why is this good? It would mean the likes of Man City simply buying success through dodgy sponsorship deals and making the league even less competitive than it is at the moment and it means they would get away with their past breaches of the regulations that other clubs abided by. It stinks. Sounds pretty much like the scenario & circumstances we currently see anyway! |
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Post by callas12 on Jun 4, 2024 15:58:57 GMT
Surley if they buy the way out of this then every other team will lawyer up against the EPL The EPL have been courting other clubs ie Everton, Forest & others to join them in the forthcoming battle v Man City! It was described on Talksport as being a potential civil war! I know it's more complex than this but seems strange Manchester City winning the Premier League Grand Prize, & then suing the exact competition firm they've won the spoils from! I'm thinking rather than wait to be charged by the EPL which was coming in November, they've got first out the blocks with this measure which will certainly sidetrack the EPL's own investigation and will kind of counter anything coming their way, head it off at the pass so to speak! Clever really, not like the EPL have rushed the process through is it, Man City have had sooooo much time to build their defences for what's coming down the road. 4 KC's they appointed to this matter, money is clearly no object and to sue as they are doing with this amount of legal clout, they know what they're doing. Things could get very messy! |
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Post by march4 on Jun 4, 2024 15:59:27 GMT
Hopefully, FFP will now be properly tested in the courts and then chucked out.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jun 4, 2024 16:02:59 GMT
Man City Vs The Premier League Wonder if it will be a Sky Super Sunday event?  |
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Post by Royal Donut on Jun 4, 2024 16:07:04 GMT
I will have literally zero interest in the premier league if they don’t get punished. How can they have the best team of all time if they not played by the same rules.
Bring on the super league (which I was completely against before).
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jun 4, 2024 16:07:53 GMT
Does the fact they are suing first show they are guilty of inflating their sponsorship fees?
They want to change the rules to suit them - but changing the rules of the game will not change the historical view that they are in breach on inflating their revenues in the past.
Its like suing the government to say - "Murder should be legalised" - knowing that you are about to go to court for a murder charge.
If this is true then they know they are guilty of fiddling the numbers.
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Post by thornestein on Jun 4, 2024 16:09:00 GMT
Hope city get relegated off the back of it. We've all watched them break the rules even since before we got in the prem. Them and Chelsea deserve anything they get. what for spending their own money , it’s the rules that need fucking off |
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Post by Royal Donut on Jun 4, 2024 16:10:56 GMT
Hope city get relegated off the back of it. We've all watched them break the rules even since before we got in the prem. Them and Chelsea deserve anything they get. what for spending their own money , it’s the rules that need fucking off Yes that’s true but other teams are playing within the rules, so is it fair? if you think forget ffp and it’s fair game for everyone, I completely agree. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Jun 4, 2024 16:13:48 GMT
Man City Vs The Premier League Wonder if it will be a Sky Super Sunday event? "AND IT'S LIVE...!" (unlike the gays the regime that owns MCFC regularly chuck off the top of buildings) |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 4, 2024 16:14:58 GMT
Isn't this an admission of guilt on the charges?
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Post by thornestein on Jun 4, 2024 16:15:03 GMT
what for spending their own money , it’s the rules that need fucking off Yes that’s true but other teams are playing within the rules, so is it fair? if you think forget ffp and it’s fair game for everyone, I completely agree. it worked ok for 100 years before ffp , they need some rules to stop clubs spending what they don’t have but apart from that if you’ve got it spend it |
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Post by telfordstokie on Jun 4, 2024 16:20:28 GMT
Wonder if this all ends in a ‘goalless draw’ where Man City’s case against the Premier League ultimately doesn’t go anywhere and the Premier League’s case against Man City ends in limited/no action so they stay in the top flight, etc.
Probably the outcome both sides would take right now.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 4, 2024 16:23:32 GMT
Yes that’s true but other teams are playing within the rules, so is it fair? if you think forget ffp and it’s fair game for everyone, I completely agree. it worked ok for 100 years before ffp , they need some rules to stop clubs spending what they don’t have but apart from that if you’ve got it spend it Absolutely Thorners As long as you can prove you have it, why should you be restricted on spending? |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 4, 2024 16:27:09 GMT
We avoided FFP by selling ground to Bet365. A certain Stanley Matthews was he not paid by a directors building company as well as Stoke ? It’s gone on for decades in various forms. Man Utd were bought with debt which is a clear breach of FFP . On a different tack Fergie intimidated for years . Trapattoni was paid by 3 mobile when Ireland manager, wasn't Rooney rumoured to be paid by their sponsors? |
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Post by xchpotter on Jun 4, 2024 16:41:55 GMT
Wonder if this all ends in a ‘goalless draw’ where Man City’s case against the Premier League ultimately doesn’t go anywhere and the Premier League’s case against Man City ends in limited/no action so they stay in the top flight, etc. Probably the outcome both sides would take right now. Reckon so. This world is all about who can pay most for the smarmy legal lot and who can afford to counter with enough money to pay their own smarmy legal lot. No one wins except the lawyers. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jun 4, 2024 16:45:20 GMT
As ceejays pointed out, we did a a few shenanigans although within the rules as a result of us having money. Can see why it upset other teams a bit as well
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Post by tuum on Jun 4, 2024 16:47:52 GMT
I will have literally zero interest in the premier league if they don’t get punished. How can they have the best team of all time if they not played by the same rules. Bring on the super league (which I was completely against before). I am good for this. A Super League with no relegation would be great. Follow the American model and maximise your money...then leave the rest of us alone to concentrate on our own game. This is genuinely what I want. I don't care for the European stuff as it stands and I can count the number of PL games I have watched since we got relegated on two fingers. This is the football equivalent of Brexit for some. Those people who enjoy football... rather than those people who enjoy Stoke City... and yes, I know you can do both! |
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