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Post by Stokester on Mar 3, 2021 20:47:28 GMT
Does anyone have a list of our players out of contract this summer?
Once again another massive overhaul needed, be interesting to see who we can just let go.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2021 20:59:32 GMT
You’ll be highly disappointed.
I think it’s just Chester, Mikel and Cousins.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 3, 2021 21:07:20 GMT
You’ll be highly disappointed. I think it’s just Chester, Mikel and Cousins. And we aren't 100% sure re Cousins, are we? Transfermarkt just make an educated guess when it's never been revealed. You'd like to think he got a 2-yr deal - but Gregory got three, so who the hell knows? And Chester and Mikel have an option of an extra year So....could be a grand total of nobody |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2021 21:09:45 GMT
You’ll be highly disappointed. I think it’s just Chester, Mikel and Cousins. And we aren't 100% sure re Cousins, are we? Transfermarkt just make an educated guess when it's never been revealed. You'd like to think he got a 2-yr deal - but Gregory got three, so who the hell knows? And Chester and Mikel have an option of an extra year So....could be a grand total of nobody Ah I didn’t realise that re Cousins! So yes probably. Oh well 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 21:14:05 GMT
You’ll be highly disappointed. I think it’s just Chester, Mikel and Cousins. And we aren't 100% sure re Cousins, are we? Transfermarkt just make an educated guess when it's never been revealed. You'd like to think he got a 2-yr deal - but Gregory got three, so who the hell knows? And Chester and Mikel have an option of an extra year So....could be a grand total of nobody The fact that he rarely uses Cousins suggests that MON is prepared to let Cousins run his contract down. So no 3rd year and no extra option. |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Mar 3, 2021 21:14:55 GMT
Roll up, come and sign up to the Stoke City supporter stasis/carbon freezing service and the next two years will pass by in what seems like seconds but when you wake up batth, wimmer, bauer, Etebo, ndiaye, Gregory, smith, allen, Mikkel, chester, afobe, woods, brown, vokes, will all no longer be stoke players!
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 3, 2021 21:16:57 GMT
Some of you lot would see the negatives in anything. I only see opportunities.
It's a great opportunity to knock the 'number of Championship players out on loan from one club at one time in a season' record into a cocked hat.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 4, 2021 13:34:19 GMT
Another factor is how fast the club have depreciated the book value of a player.
It's possible (fingers crossed) that the club has depreciated a player to nil book value as he enters his last year of contract. If so he could be moved on without incurring a write off, and the only cost might be paying the difference between his wages at Stoke and the first year of his contract at a new club, as I doubt any club would sign a Stoke player and pay him what Stoke do.
Just speculation on my part.
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 4, 2021 15:14:45 GMT
You’ll be highly disappointed. I think it’s just Chester, Mikel and Cousins. And we aren't 100% sure re Cousins, are we? Transfermarkt just make an educated guess when it's never been revealed. You'd like to think he got a 2-yr deal - but Gregory got three, so who the hell knows? And Chester and Mikel have an option of an extra year So....could be a grand total of nobody 2 year deals aren’t very common in the mid 20’s bracket are they? Cousins has to be 3 years considering Davies Gregory Powell We all signed on frees and given 3 years why would we do different for cousins? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 4, 2021 15:26:55 GMT
And we aren't 100% sure re Cousins, are we? Transfermarkt just make an educated guess when it's never been revealed. You'd like to think he got a 2-yr deal - but Gregory got three, so who the hell knows? And Chester and Mikel have an option of an extra year So....could be a grand total of nobody 2 year deals aren’t very common in the mid 20’s bracket are they? Cousins has to be 3 years considering Davies Gregory Powell We all signed on frees and given 3 years why would we do different for cousins? Yeah, 3-yr deals seemed to be the order of the day in Nath's summer. Only thing that gives it a chance of being 2 is the fact it was slightly more of a punt with possibly less (or no) competition from the Championship - with the only thing that got him the deal his history with Jones But, in the great scheme of things, don't suppose it's that significant when you think he'll be on a (by our standards) a more modest wage And at least he can offer something. Although if you can't get on the pitch ahead of some of our midfield options, he must be wondering what he's doing here. As he enters his final year (if he does have another year), he'll probably be more than open to an exit over the summer, though can't see him ever getting the kind of wage he'll be on here. |
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 4, 2021 18:19:54 GMT
2 year deals aren’t very common in the mid 20’s bracket are they? Cousins has to be 3 years considering Davies Gregory Powell We all signed on frees and given 3 years why would we do different for cousins? Yeah, 3-yr deals seemed to be the order of the day in Nath's summer. Only thing that gives it a chance of being 2 is the fact it was slightly more of a punt with possibly less (or no) competition from the Championship - with the only thing that got him the deal his history with Jones But, in the great scheme of things, don't suppose it's that significant when you think he'll be on a (by our standards) a more modest wage And at least he can offer something. Although if you can't get on the pitch ahead of some of our midfield options, he must be wondering what he's doing here. As he enters his final year (if he does have another year), he'll probably be more than open to an exit over the summer, though can't see him ever getting the kind of wage he'll be on here. Yeah I don’t disagree with any of that. He must be so disillusioned here, he should be starting every week + one other. Yet he’s only making the bench at most. But as everyone says you need good honest pros that’ll come in and do a job when times are hard. At worst, if he does go we should get a modest fee and clear his wages I suppose. |
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Post by independent on Mar 5, 2021 14:23:50 GMT
JUNE 2022 these players will be out of contract:
Afobe BMI Collins Edwards Gregory Lindsay Sorensen Tymon
Allen Brown Clucas Etebo Gunn McClean Souttar Vokes
Batth Bursik Davies Fletcher Ince Ndiaye Thompson TOB
Bauer Campbell Fox Doughty Powell Smith Wimmer Woods Blondie
If you know of any clubs who would wish to buy any of the above or even take them on a free and pay their full wages, please contact Mr. Scholes.
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Post by hardcastle on Mar 5, 2021 15:19:28 GMT
I'm pretty sure that Souttar and Campbell have both extended their contracts (not sure when to) and l'd guess that Doughty's contract runs until June 24 if it's three and a half years from this January just gone.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 5, 2021 15:34:35 GMT
Think this is more or less accurate, for the ones that have been made public
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Cousins (possibly..or, if not, next summer)
Chester, Mikel (but options for extra year for these two)
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Davies, Gunn (loan)
Smith, Tymon, Lindsay, Batth, BMI, Wimmer
Woods, Allen, Thompson, Ndiaye, Clucas, Powell
Ince, McClean
Gregory, Vokes, Fletcher
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Bursik
Bauer, Fox
Etebo, TOB
Afobe
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Edwards, Collins
Campbell
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Souttar
Unknown, but long-term
Blondy, Brown, Doughty
...plus Sorensen described as signing "long-term deal" in 2018
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 5, 2021 16:18:29 GMT
Just Cousins it is.
And this reads like we have the option on Chester and Mikel.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 5, 2021 16:19:59 GMT
Just Cousins it is. And this reads like we have the option on Chester and Mikel. Either way, looks like they'll be here. Chester makes some sense - but Mikel really must be a great, great, great kiddie in the dressing room. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 5, 2021 16:22:45 GMT
Just Cousins it is. And this reads like we have the option on Chester and Mikel. Either way, looks like they'll be here. Chester makes some sense - but Mikel really must be a great, great, great kiddie in the dressing room. Yeah I can see why with Chester although I still think he's poor, he's made less mistakes this season but still untrustworthy imo. Mikel though makes no sense at any level. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 5, 2021 16:24:42 GMT
Mikel wouldn't stick around if he knew he wasn't getting game time, he doesn't need the money he'd just go and get a 12 months contract somewhere else in the world.......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 5, 2021 16:28:22 GMT
Mikel wouldn't stick around if he knew he wasn't getting game time, he doesn't need the money he'd just go and get a 12 months contract somewhere else in the world....... You're giving the manager far too much credit. |
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 5, 2021 16:39:55 GMT
Chester as CB cover on reduced terms- I can live with that.
There's absolutely no reason why Mikel should get another deal.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 5, 2021 16:40:24 GMT
Experience wise I see no reason to keep either Chester or Mikel, we have Baath as an experienced head to mentor the young centre halves, Allen for the midfield younger players, good eggs are all well and good, but would say keeping Mikel, block us from say getting a Mowatt type...
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Post by telfordstokie on Mar 5, 2021 16:54:41 GMT
Cousins in his limited pitch time this season has for me made a much more positive contribution than Mikel and is surely on half his wage, if not less. So of course of the two we will be keeping JOM.
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 5, 2021 16:56:49 GMT
You can certainly see Cousins rocking up at Luton next year.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 5, 2021 17:04:39 GMT
Chester as CB cover on reduced terms- I can live with that. There's absolutely no reason why Mikel should get another deal. Bruno and Lindsay will be back so we don't need to waste money on James Chester. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 5, 2021 17:12:39 GMT
Chester as CB cover on reduced terms- I can live with that. There's absolutely no reason why Mikel should get another deal. Bruno and Lindsay will be back so we don't need to waste money on James Chester. re Bruno ,left sided, played well with Souttar & Collins a 3 , can cover left back however: does he want to be here? & he's still got clangers in him seen negative reports on him from dutch fans this season (wary re that though) |
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Post by brizzlestokie on Mar 5, 2021 17:18:43 GMT
Chester as CB cover on reduced terms- I can live with that. There's absolutely no reason why Mikel should get another deal. Bruno and Lindsay will be back so we don't need to waste money on James Chester. Think it's very unlikely we'll ever see those two play for us again. MON said recently how it's very rare for a senior player to go out on loan and then come back and establish himself back in the squad again. |
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Mar 5, 2021 17:19:27 GMT
Can’t understand a case for keeping Chester or Mikel next season. We’ve got 3 right footed centre halves under contract who are better than Chester so no need to waste a wage on keeping him here.
Bruno will get a move to somewhere in Europe and hopefully we can ship Lindsay, Bauer and Wimmer out too. We’d be better off bringing in a left back, as Fox can provide cover at centre half too.
No need for Mikel. Wages too high and think next season will be one too far for him. Surely we’d be better off signing Rothwell on a free and extending Cousins’ contract?
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 5, 2021 17:30:13 GMT
Chester as CB cover on reduced terms- I can live with that. There's absolutely no reason why Mikel should get another deal. Bruno and Lindsay will be back so we don't need to waste money on James Chester. If Bruno's staying definitely- but I think he'll want to go. Also depends whether preston want to keep Lindsay. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 5, 2021 17:32:34 GMT
Can’t understand a case for keeping Chester or Mikel next season. We’ve got 3 right footed centre halves under contract who are better than Chester so no need to waste a wage on keeping him here. Bruno will get a move to somewhere in Europe and hopefully we can ship Lindsay, Bauer and Wimmer out too. We’d be better off bringing in a left back, as Fox can provide cover at centre half too. No need for Mikel. Wages too high and think next season will be one too far for him. Surely we’d be better off signing Rothwell on a free and extending Cousins’ contract? Yeah, you'd definitely think so. 34 next month, and looks it now. He's got quality on the ball, but even when he looks okay, his performance falls off a cliff late on. I'd like to know if we've got the option or the player. If it's us, it's pretty tough to make the argument that the best way of spending £750k+ is giving him another year And ,if it's him, would he like to spend his last year as a pro as (hopefully) a fringe player for us? He must be a multi-millionaire, so money may not be everything for him. He could get a decent deal in the sun somewhere if he wants to play on for one more year - and actually play We desperately need freshening up in midfield - and if JOM, Allen and Clucas are all going to be here along with Thompson, it's harder to see where it may come, especially with seemingly good options like Mowatt and Rothwell looking like really good peak-years Bosmans |
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 5, 2021 17:47:41 GMT
Can’t understand a case for keeping Chester or Mikel next season. We’ve got 3 right footed centre halves under contract who are better than Chester so no need to waste a wage on keeping him here. Bruno will get a move to somewhere in Europe and hopefully we can ship Lindsay, Bauer and Wimmer out too. We’d be better off bringing in a left back, as Fox can provide cover at centre half too. No need for Mikel. Wages too high and think next season will be one too far for him. Surely we’d be better off signing Rothwell on a free and extending Cousins’ contract? Yeah, you'd definitely think so. 34 next month, and looks it now. He's got quality on the ball, but even when he looks okay, his performance falls off a cliff late on. I'd like to know if we've got the option or the player. If it's us, it's pretty tough to make the argument that the best way of spending £750k+ is giving him another year And ,if it's him, would he like to spend his last year as a pro as (hopefully) a fringe player for us? He must be a multi-millionaire, so money may not be everything for him. He could get a decent deal in the sun somewhere if he wants to play on for one more year - and actually play We desperately need freshening up in midfield - and if JOM, Allen and Clucas are all going to be here along with Thompson, it's harder to see where it may come, especially with seemingly good options like Mowatt and Rothwell looking like really good peak-years Bosmans I dread to think what our midfield's going to be like with another year in the legs of Mikel, allen and Clucas. Hideous I imagine. |
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