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Post by gingerninja on Mar 5, 2021 17:53:44 GMT
We have always been a soft touch when it comes to dishing out contracts and extension's. With so many players returning from loans, it is even more crucial to streamline the squad, having luxury "good uns" shouldn't be on the menu..If we miss out on the likes of Mowatt and Rothwell for the sake of keeping Mikel, I will be pretty annoyed..
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 5, 2021 17:56:12 GMT
Yeah, you'd definitely think so. 34 next month, and looks it now. He's got quality on the ball, but even when he looks okay, his performance falls off a cliff late on. I'd like to know if we've got the option or the player. If it's us, it's pretty tough to make the argument that the best way of spending £750k+ is giving him another year And ,if it's him, would he like to spend his last year as a pro as (hopefully) a fringe player for us? He must be a multi-millionaire, so money may not be everything for him. He could get a decent deal in the sun somewhere if he wants to play on for one more year - and actually play We desperately need freshening up in midfield - and if JOM, Allen and Clucas are all going to be here along with Thompson, it's harder to see where it may come, especially with seemingly good options like Mowatt and Rothwell looking like really good peak-years Bosmans I dread to think what our midfield's going to be like with another year in the legs of Mikel, allen and Clucas. Hideous I imagine. Yeah - it's not a prospect to put on the season ticket renewal letters! MON must be able to see it though (mind you, his fascination with Allen and Mikel recently would suggest otherwise) Just got to hope there'll be a surprise departure or two.
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Post by chamberlain on Mar 5, 2021 18:00:33 GMT
We have always been a soft touch when it comes to dishing out contracts and extension's. With so many players returning from loans, it is even more crucial to streamline the squad, having luxury "good uns" shouldn't be on the menu..If we miss out on the likes of Mowatt and Rothwell for the sake of keeping Mikel, I will be pretty annoyed.. You would hope that we have learnt ,but I have serious doubts .
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 5, 2021 18:05:30 GMT
Put Ron Swanson in charge of all contracts He would sort the wheat from the chaff👍
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Post by chad on Mar 5, 2021 18:06:38 GMT
You’ll be highly disappointed. I think it’s just Chester, Mikel and Cousins. And I’d let all them three go
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Post by butlerstbob on Mar 5, 2021 18:07:43 GMT
Signing Mikel for another season? Christ on a bike... Might as well give Big Sam an extension to his contract while we are at it! We are run by clowns!
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 5, 2021 18:12:45 GMT
Let's not jump the gun, but he ain't going to be any faster next season ☹️
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 18:15:22 GMT
He must be a multi-millionaire, so money may not be everything for him. He could get a decent deal in the sun somewhere if he wants to play on for one more year - and actually play You know as well as I do that if he goes to have a deal in the sun, say at Sevilla, he will have his best ever season, win the Spanish league and the Euro Cup, and everybody will be asking why did Stoke let him go...
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 5, 2021 18:21:43 GMT
Just Cousins it is. And this reads like we have the option on Chester and Mikel. And the only one you'd really wan't to keep looks like he's the most likely to go.
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Post by march4 on Mar 5, 2021 18:29:52 GMT
I would let all three go.
Cousins is the only one I could see an argument for keeping.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 5, 2021 18:58:42 GMT
You’ll be highly disappointed. I think it’s just Chester, Mikel and Cousins. And I’d let all them three go In an ideal world I would too. In a world where Cousins is presently the best midfielder we have, I'd keep him for another season.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 5, 2021 20:25:29 GMT
If we did keepe Mikel and Chester and get rid of Cousins then we don’t deserve success. If we kept them we’d be keeping a pair that won’t improve a very average lineup.
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Post by a on Mar 5, 2021 20:39:16 GMT
I dread to think what our midfield's going to be like with another year in the legs of Mikel, allen and Clucas. Hideous I imagine. Yeah - it's not a prospect to put on the season ticket renewal letters! MON must be able to see it though (mind you, his fascination with Allen and Mikel recently would suggest otherwise) Just got to hope there'll be a surprise departure or two. Sickeningly it’ll be a success if we manage to give away players. That’s the fucking joke this club has become. We must be the laughing stock of transfer teams to deal with.
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Post by datguy on Mar 5, 2021 20:39:24 GMT
It would be incredibly stupid to re-sign Cousins imo. You can't bang on about players on long contracts and then re-sign the only player (a fringe player at that) whose contract is out to a longer deal.
*I would've kept Cousins. But seeing as though he's the only one out of contract, he's got to go hasn't he?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 5, 2021 21:25:55 GMT
It would be incredibly stupid to re-sign Cousins imo. You can't bang on about players on long contracts and then re-sign the only player (a fringe player at that) whose contract is out to a longer deal. *I would've kept Cousins. But seeing as though he's the only one out of contract, he's got to go hasn't he? He currenlty shouldn't be a fringe player and he would cost considerably less than the other two mentioned on this thread. He doesn't have to go and shouldn't imo, he's young enough and cheap enough, and most importantly, useful enough to offer another year to. I don't think anyone would suggest giving him longer than a year.
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 6, 2021 9:01:20 GMT
Can’t understand a case for keeping Chester or Mikel next season. We’ve got 3 right footed centre halves under contract who are better than Chester so no need to waste a wage on keeping him here. Bruno will get a move to somewhere in Europe and hopefully we can ship Lindsay, Bauer and Wimmer out too. We’d be better off bringing in a left back, as Fox can provide cover at centre half too. No need for Mikel. Wages too high and think next season will be one too far for him. Surely we’d be better off signing Rothwell on a free and extending Cousins’ contract? Yeah, you'd definitely think so. 34 next month, and looks it now. He's got quality on the ball, but even when he looks okay, his performance falls off a cliff late on. I'd like to know if we've got the option or the player. If it's us, it's pretty tough to make the argument that the best way of spending £750k+ is giving him another year And ,if it's him, would he like to spend his last year as a pro as (hopefully) a fringe player for us? He must be a multi-millionaire, so money may not be everything for him. He could get a decent deal in the sun somewhere if he wants to play on for one more year - and actually play We desperately need freshening up in midfield - and if JOM, Allen and Clucas are all going to be here along with Thompson, it's harder to see where it may come, especially with seemingly good options like Mowatt and Rothwell looking like really good peak-years Bosmans I wouldn’t be upset with Allen and JOM out for Mowett and Rothwell. I’d keep clucas but for the right money, he can go for me too. Although I do feel that Thompson is a budget Mowatt. Strike me as very similar players
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 6, 2021 9:56:31 GMT
I hope we will keep Cousins, he is at least great back up, but has done really well in games he has started too.
I think AZ would like to have Indi for another year as he has done well there. Will Galatarasay buy Etebo? Certainly not for 7.5 Euros, but maybe for 2.5 Euros? I think that will be enough without getting into trouble with FFP? Afobe will not get another season at Trabzonspor and will be back. Lindsay will go to Preston for around £1M I think. Ince will be back. Wimmer will be back. Bauer will be back. Badou will hopefully stay in Dubai, but his club will go down so time will tell. I think Edwards will stay in the US. Sørensen might come back or will be easy to send out on loan again. Woods will hopefully stay at Millwall. Gregory will be back I think, but shouldn't be too difficult to offload.
This will limit our chance to upgrade a lot, but we must bring in another striker!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 6, 2021 9:57:31 GMT
Mikel wouldn't stick around if he knew he wasn't getting game time, he doesn't need the money he'd just go and get a 12 months contract somewhere else in the world....... You're giving the manager far too much credit. Surely we aren't going to give Mikel another season? Fucking surely???
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 6, 2021 9:58:44 GMT
You're giving the manager far too much credit. Surely we aren't going to give Mikel another season? Fucking surely??? There’s no logic to it is there, so probably.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 6, 2021 10:01:21 GMT
Surely we aren't going to give Mikel another season? Fucking surely??? There’s no logic to it is there, so probably. It's mental. Absolutely sick of us having such a shit midfield. We aren't a million miles off being a reasonable side, but it desperately needs two new dynamic, competent, forward thinking centre mids and a decent winger or two.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 6, 2021 10:14:51 GMT
You're giving the manager far too much credit. Surely we aren't going to give Mikel another season? Fucking surely??? Looking nailed on and Chester time to show MON the exit>
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 6, 2021 10:17:04 GMT
Surely we aren't going to give Mikel another season? Fucking surely??? Looking nailed on and Chester time to show MON the exit> Yeah Chester is fucking bollocks as well. Big few weeks ahead I suspect. A bad end to this season could spell danger for MON. There's still a very real chance we won't finish much better than last season!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 6, 2021 10:19:12 GMT
I’d keep Mikel if he was on next to nothing but clearly he isn’t because he wouldn’t accept 5k a week. His legs have gone and he offers nothing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 6, 2021 10:46:05 GMT
I’d keep Mikel if he was on next to nothing but clearly he isn’t because he wouldn’t accept 5k a week. His legs have gone and he offers nothing. If his legs are gone and he offers nothing, why would you keep him if he was on next to nothing?
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Post by peterthornesboots on Mar 6, 2021 11:01:32 GMT
Mikel is a weird one.
He was playing quite well up until his injury (he was getting lots of plaudits on here initially!).
However, since returning he has been really poor. Maybe a combination of the injury, a compact season where games have come thick and fast due to Covid, and pretty much playing every game for the first three months have caught up with him.
I can see why we would keep him for about year, but he certainly isn't someone who should be starting every week!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 6, 2021 11:02:25 GMT
I’d keep Mikel if he was on next to nothing but clearly he isn’t because he wouldn’t accept 5k a week. His legs have gone and he offers nothing. If his legs are gone and he offers nothing, why would you keep him if he was on next to nothing? Because he’d be useful as backup and because we wouldn’t be taking 20-30k on wages
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 6, 2021 11:06:23 GMT
Nothing has been decided yet. They’ve both played enough games already this season to trigger a second year, if they choose to take it or not is down to Chester and Mikel to decide. They might both get better offers and go elsewhere.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 6, 2021 11:20:40 GMT
If his legs are gone and he offers nothing, why would you keep him if he was on next to nothing? Because he’d be useful as backup and because we wouldn’t be taking 20-30k on wages But offering nothing isn’t good enough to be back up is it? The two statements you’ve made contradict each other.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 6, 2021 11:26:21 GMT
Because he’d be useful as backup and because we wouldn’t be taking 20-30k on wages But offering nothing isn’t good enough to be back up is it? The two statements you’ve made contradict each other. It’s the value of someone to the team and paying the wages they’re worth Pay him 20/30k is daft because he doesn’t add enough. Pay him small wages and your getting an experienced pro that can support the younger players and fill in when needed. If he’s on low wages it frees up money to spend on others and hasn’t blown your budget.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 6, 2021 11:26:43 GMT
Nothing has been decided yet. They’ve both played enough games already this season to trigger a second year, if they choose to take it or not is down to Chester and Mikel to decide. They might both get better offers and go elsewhere. I might win the lottery, who the hell is going to take these pair on the money our CEO has them on.
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