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Post by nott1 on Oct 10, 2018 15:24:15 GMT
If Dave Kitson was mental enough to attempt to stab another employee with a pair of scissors for no particular reason he should have been sacked, arrested and charged. Fair play to Pulis on this one. Not only did he not allow this to get into the public domain, he clearly didn’t take it personally and still picked him 22 times the following season. He probably accidentally slipped and on his way from falling over, accidentally grabbed a pair of scissors trying to break his fall and almost stabbed Tone, completely accidental. Then the other players jumped in to make sure he didn't hit the floor. You must be Agatha Christie!
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Post by greyman on Oct 10, 2018 15:38:18 GMT
If Dave Kitson was mental enough to attempt to stab another employee with a pair of scissors for no particular reason he should have been sacked, arrested and charged. Fair play to Pulis on this one. Not only did he not allow this to get into the public domain, he clearly didn’t take it personally and still picked him 22 times the following season. He probably accidentally slipped and on his way from falling over, accidentally grabbed a pair of scissors trying to break his fall and almost stabbed Tone, completely accidental. Then the other players jumped in to make sure he didn't hit the floor.
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Post by upthefud on Oct 10, 2018 16:22:19 GMT
Absolutely staggering to see people taking issue with Pulis on behalf of Dave Kitson.
Pulls put us back on the map. Signed players who actually cared about the club (seems strange doesn’t it). Did and continues to do incredible things for local S-o-T based charities.
Fraud is fraud and he’s obviously a bit of a wanker, but he’s a Stoke City legend. Many people are legends for one club and an utter arse at others. Do you think Man Utd fans are rushing to lynch Ronaldo over his tax evasion in Spain?
Some of you are coming across as a little pathetic
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Post by RAF on Oct 10, 2018 16:32:07 GMT
It's an absolute cunts trick to attack someone with a pair of scissors. The manly way would have been to put a towel on his naked body and headbutt him. Now that is fair and just. Weapon wielding weapon.
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Post by greyman on Oct 10, 2018 16:32:39 GMT
Absolutely staggering to see people taking issue with Pulis on behalf of Dave Kitson. Pulls put us back on the map. Signed players who actually cared about the club (seems strange doesn’t it). Did and continues to do incredible things for local S-o-T based charities. Fraud is fraud and he’s obviously a bit of a wanker, but he’s a Stoke City legend. Many people are legends for one club and an utter arse at others. Do you think Man Utd fans are rushing to lynch Ronaldo over his tax evasion in Spain? Some of you are coming across as a little pathetic c)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 16:47:11 GMT
I was sat in the main stand near the managers dugout at Anfield that season. The game where we just sat in and got a 0-0.
Kitson was up front on his own, a thankless task yes. It was silent in the home end and at one point pulis came out and shouted some instructions at kitson. Kitson turned round and shouted back 'fuck off'. Everyone around me heard it though they were mainly foreign tourists.
Kitson had an attitude problem. And if pulis dug him out for losing the ball and costing us at chelsea then fair enough, that was a heartbreaking defeat and kitson deserved it
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 17:07:02 GMT
I was sat in the main stand near the managers dugout at Anfield that season. The game where we just sat in and got a 0-0. Kitson was up front on his own, a thankless task yes. It was silent in the home end and at one point pulis came out and shouted some instructions at kitson. Kitson turned round and shouted back 'fuck off'. Everyone around me heard it though they were mainly foreign tourists. Kitson had an attitude problem. And if pulis dug him out for losing the ball and costing us at chelsea then fair enough, that was a heartbreaking defeat and kitson deserved it I can't understand how someone with an attitude problem ended up here working for a manager that placed so much emphasis on character to the extent that he did sooooo much research into player's character and 'DNA'? It's a right baffler.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 10, 2018 17:33:35 GMT
I'm saying nothing on the subject.
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Post by leicspotter on Oct 10, 2018 17:35:52 GMT
“I just wanted to help because I knew what it was like to be a newly promoted team,” he said. “It was on the Friday, we had trained and then I went into the canteen and Pulis was sat there with Tony Scholes, the chief executive, and a couple of other guys and, I should never have done, it’s not going to sound like a lot but it undermines a manager. “I said, ‘Tony, I don’t know where we’re going tomorrow, I don’t know where the bus is meeting us, whether it’s at the stadium or the training ground. At Reading we had a list on the wall so we knew exactly what we were going to do’. “This was my big mistake. He just looked at me like ‘who do you think you are?’ “From then on the die was cast. It was my fault, I should never have done that.” Refreshing to hear that from Kitson actually, I thought he was awful at Stoke but it's hard to say whether it was down to a lack of effort or whether it was just a very bad fit with him and Pulis to start with. If he was treated like that from just one conversation (which was a completely valid thing to ask IMO) then it's Pulis' fault it never worked out. Don't treat people like shit, it's really not that hard to be reasonable to people, treat people like that and it's no wonder they turn on you. Don't you just ask a team mate?
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Post by thevoid on Oct 10, 2018 17:38:03 GMT
The only time he showed a cutting edge at Stoke...
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 10, 2018 17:39:43 GMT
For me, the one thing Dave Kitson did that was positive for the club was provide an early warning sign about signing the wrong type of player for the club. He was supposed to be the marquee signing of the 08/09 season and would be the one to fire us to safety. In reality he was just a bit of a gobshite and I still fail to see what his strengths were on the football pitch. However, it did press home the need to sign players with the right character to survive, your Abdoulaye Fayes, Etheringtons and Higgys. I'm not surprised he has negative feelings for Pulis and probably the club as a whole, as others have said it just wasn't going to work from the outset. I’m sure I read somewhere that Kitson did an article saying he didn’t actually want to sign for stoke anyway! And again he I’m sure wouldn’t have been signed by Pulis probably Scholes again. It seems very strange that this scenario keeps happening time after time even under different managers so what’s the common denominator here. In my eyes it’s the board/scholes signing players ever likely managers don’t want to play them ! What proof is there that Scholes has picked any of the players we sign, seems like unfounded bollocks to me.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 10, 2018 17:50:04 GMT
Refreshing to hear that from Kitson actually, I thought he was awful at Stoke but it's hard to say whether it was down to a lack of effort or whether it was just a very bad fit with him and Pulis to start with. If he was treated like that from just one conversation (which was a completely valid thing to ask IMO) then it's Pulis' fault it never worked out. Don't treat people like shit, it's really not that hard to be reasonable to people, treat people like that and it's no wonder they turn on you. Don't you just ask a team mate? Probably worried they'd tell him any old shit. Maybe that's what Berahino did?
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Post by werrington on Oct 10, 2018 17:51:58 GMT
For me, the one thing Dave Kitson did that was positive for the club was provide an early warning sign about signing the wrong type of player for the club. He was supposed to be the marquee signing of the 08/09 season and would be the one to fire us to safety. In reality he was just a bit of a gobshite and I still fail to see what his strengths were on the football pitch. However, it did press home the need to sign players with the right character to survive, your Abdoulaye Fayes, Etheringtons and Higgys. I'm not surprised he has negative feelings for Pulis and probably the club as a whole, as others have said it just wasn't going to work from the outset. I’m sure I read somewhere that Kitson did an article saying he didn’t actually want to sign for stoke anyway! And again he I’m sure wouldn’t have been signed by Pulis probably Scholes again. It seems very strange that this scenario keeps happening time after time even under different managers so what’s the common denominator here. In my eyes it’s the board/scholes signing players ever likely managers don’t want to play them ! The current transfer team was not up and running back then It’s never him is it
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Post by s7oke on Oct 10, 2018 18:05:03 GMT
I’m sure I read somewhere that Kitson did an article saying he didn’t actually want to sign for stoke anyway! And again he I’m sure wouldn’t have been signed by Pulis probably Scholes again. It seems very strange that this scenario keeps happening time after time even under different managers so what’s the common denominator here. In my eyes it’s the board/scholes signing players ever likely managers don’t want to play them ! What proof is there that Scholes has picked any of the players we sign, seems like unfounded bollocks to me. Non at all like I said in my eyes !! Can you disprove it though because if you can’t your comment is as much a load of unfounded bollocks as mine is !
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Post by s7oke on Oct 10, 2018 18:08:00 GMT
I’m sure I read somewhere that Kitson did an article saying he didn’t actually want to sign for stoke anyway! And again he I’m sure wouldn’t have been signed by Pulis probably Scholes again. It seems very strange that this scenario keeps happening time after time even under different managers so what’s the common denominator here. In my eyes it’s the board/scholes signing players ever likely managers don’t want to play them ! The current transfer team was not up and running back then It’s never him is it I think that you will find that Scholes was very much up and running!
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Post by werrington on Oct 10, 2018 18:10:48 GMT
The current transfer team was not up and running back then It’s never him is it I think that you will find that Scholes was very much up and running! That’s not what I said though There was no transfer team back then
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Post by Miles Offside on Oct 10, 2018 18:18:46 GMT
Did Kitson mention Pulis being our best manager since Lou?
Or did he just focus on the hate?
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Post by s7oke on Oct 10, 2018 18:31:42 GMT
I think that you will find that Scholes was very much up and running! That’s not what I said though There was no transfer team back then Who signed the players then ?
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Post by robinplumpton on Oct 10, 2018 18:36:03 GMT
A foregone conclusion, like most of Kitson’s attacks in Stoke colours, everybody knew he would miss
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Post by stokief on Oct 10, 2018 18:36:35 GMT
Yep, scissors are deffo not as good a look as baseball cap and towel BUT definitely seems the creepier option
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Post by werrington on Oct 10, 2018 18:40:36 GMT
That’s not what I said though There was no transfer team back then Who signed the players then ? Pulis identified them That’s why he then saw his arse when the transfer team was formed
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Post by s7oke on Oct 10, 2018 18:44:00 GMT
Who signed the players then ? Pulis identified them That’s why he then saw his arse when the transfer team was formed Proof ?
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Post by s7oke on Oct 10, 2018 18:44:40 GMT
Who signed the players then ? Pulis identified them That’s why he then saw his arse when the transfer team was formed And they have been sooooo successful since 😂😂😂
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Post by Davef on Oct 10, 2018 18:46:11 GMT
That’s not what I said though There was no transfer team back then Who signed the players then ? You obviously want to heap the blame on Scholes for signing Kitson. Who was responsible for signing Fuller, Lawrence, Delap, Faye, Etherington and Beattie then?
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Post by s7oke on Oct 10, 2018 18:51:12 GMT
Who signed the players then ? You obviously want to heap the blame on Scholes for signing Kitson. Who was responsible for signing Fuller, Lawrence, Delap, Faye, Etherington and Beattie then? No I don’t I’m blaming the clubs scouting network or whoever does the signings. But those players mentioned above I’m sure you want to praise scholes for signing them too But what about the rest of the shit we signed !
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Post by Davef on Oct 10, 2018 18:52:22 GMT
You obviously want to heap the blame on Scholes for signing Kitson. Who was responsible for signing Fuller, Lawrence, Delap, Faye, Etherington and Beattie then? No I don’t I’m blaming the clubs scouting network or whoever does the signings. But those players mentioned above I’m sure you want to praise scholes for signing them too But what about the rest of the shit we signed ! Weve signed more good players than bad over the past dozen years.
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Post by s7oke on Oct 10, 2018 18:56:18 GMT
No I don’t I’m blaming the clubs scouting network or whoever does the signings. But those players mentioned above I’m sure you want to praise scholes for signing them too But what about the rest of the shit we signed ! Weve signed more good players than bad over the past dozen years. And a lot of shit ones in the last few and expensive shit at that !
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Post by spawnyruud on Oct 10, 2018 19:04:33 GMT
If you've heard the story that Etherington told on the bearpit podcast about this guy you'll understand why he didn't fit in (or be particularly admirable)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 19:04:33 GMT
Back when £5.5M was seen as the colossal amount of money that it actually is.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 10, 2018 19:11:52 GMT
Weve signed more good players than bad over the past dozen years. And a lot of shit ones in the last few and expensive shit at that ! Yep. Under both systems (and the system did change with the Butland signing) our big money activity has been fucking appalling by and large. Coates must be pulling his hair out but I hope it hurts him when he does because the writing has been on the wall for years now and he just seems to think it will right itself with a managerial change. The process is fine of course.
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