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Post by salopstick on May 3, 2017 11:58:48 GMT
There is an argument to suggest that crime figures rise and fall in cycles and is totally separate to the number of police on the street
It is also important to put the upturn in gun and knife crime in context. In 2004, gun crime stood at 24,094 incidents a year. The most recent figures, show that offences involving firearms increased by 13% to 5,864 in 2016 compared with 5,176 incidents in 2015. It is a worrying increase, but nothing like the levels seen a decade ago.
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Post by liquidlen on May 3, 2017 19:27:18 GMT
There is an argument to suggest that crime figures rise and fall in cycles and is totally separate to the number of police on the street It is also important to put the upturn in gun and knife crime in context. In 2004, gun crime stood at 24,094 incidents a year. The most recent figures, show that offences involving firearms increased by 13% to 5,864 in 2016 compared with 5,176 incidents in 2015. It is a worrying increase, but nothing like the levels seen a decade ago. Cycles? Cycles? In the last 7 years the Tories have overseen 22,500 less Police in the job
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Post by salopstick on May 3, 2017 19:44:15 GMT
There is an argument to suggest that crime figures rise and fall in cycles and is totally separate to the number of police on the street It is also important to put the upturn in gun and knife crime in context. In 2004, gun crime stood at 24,094 incidents a year. The most recent figures, show that offences involving firearms increased by 13% to 5,864 in 2016 compared with 5,176 incidents in 2015. It is a worrying increase, but nothing like the levels seen a decade ago. Cycles? Cycles? In the last 7 years the Tories have overseen 22,500 less Police in the job And the crime figures are not just because of that
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Post by liquidlen on May 3, 2017 19:46:34 GMT
Cycles? Cycles? In the last 7 years the Tories have overseen 22,500 less Police in the job And the crime figures are not just because of that How much crime do you suppose there would be if there were no police?
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Post by salopstick on May 3, 2017 19:48:03 GMT
Officer numbers rose sharply in the 1990s and 2000s after a political auction that started between Tony Blair and John Major over who could promise voters the largest number of extra officers. But this was against the background of the longest fall in crime levels since the second world war.
This rise in police numbers was reversed in 2010 by the incoming home secretary Theresa May in that year’s austerity budget, which saw an 18% cut in police funding. But while the Police Federation predicted an immediate “Christmas for criminals”, it did not materialise and crime continued to fall.
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Post by liquidlen on May 3, 2017 19:49:45 GMT
My point is, you cut the numbers of police...crime rises. Night follows day.
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Post by salopstick on May 3, 2017 19:51:04 GMT
The Office for National Statistics says overall crime levels are stable in England and Wales, although there is a small increase in some types of high-harm violent crime, particularly in London. More armed police officers are already being recruited.
Tony Blair once promised to be “tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime”, this was swiftly reduced to simply promising “more police officers”. Some would argue it would be more effective for Labour to promise to recruit an extra 10,000 teachers or 10,000 doctors than an extra 10,000 police officers, whose impact would be, at the very least, debatable.
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Post by liquidlen on May 3, 2017 19:59:35 GMT
Stable at a total of 4.8 million offences in the year ending December 2016, an annual rise of 9%*. So not that stable, eh? *ONS Statistics
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Post by salopstick on May 3, 2017 20:02:58 GMT
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Post by liquidlen on May 3, 2017 20:36:34 GMT
I'm only quoting from your source...keep your hair on
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jun 7, 2017 14:07:30 GMT
So the Guardian article quoted at the beginning of this thread mentions 10,000 extra policemen. Corbyn says he wants extra “bobbies on the beat” and Abbott said, "We see in the Metropolitan police that gun crime is up by 42%, knife crime is up by 24%. So we think community policing is part of the answer to dealing with the rise in certain categories of violent crime.”No mention about counter-terrorism resources. "Under Labour’s plan, funding would be provided for the 43 forces in England and Wales to recruit 10,000 additional officers in community policing roles – the equivalent of one officer for every electoral ward." Hardly, focused counter-terrorism officers which they now promise.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 10, 2017 12:32:18 GMT
Good luck one and all....
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