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Post by PotterLog on Apr 23, 2024 15:10:06 GMT
Hopefully Bristol City live up to their boring Monica last day Monica. Jesus Hates Christ!
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 23, 2024 14:32:52 GMT
This light being shone on who refs support is interesting. Fascinating that Madley was moved from a Birmingham game a couple of weeks ago due to his Huddersfield links - but then allowed to ref other relegation 6-pointers. Surely when the league has splintered into mini-leagues, refs have got to moved, if only for appearances, from matches directly impacting them. www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/key-birmingham-city-v-cardiff-28969709The referee who will take charge of Birmingham City's crucial fixture with Cardiff City on Wednesday night has changed, it has been confirmed by the EFL. The experienced Bobby Madley had initially been appointed as the man who'd oversee proceedings at St Andrew's tonight, but now the man in the middle will be Sam Allison. Madley, who has plentiful Premier League and European experience, is known to be a Huddersfield Town supporter Having originally been appointed by the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) who distribute referees across all games in the Premier League and EFL, Madley has since been moved off Blues. Now you've got a big Notts County fan reffing crucial Luton games. Seems odd Where do you stop with that though? Any fixture could potentially affect a team a ref supposedly supports. Also, are we meant to assume that just because someone supports Notts County that they HATE Forest so much that they'll bring their own profession into disrepute by being biased towards another team in a game that may or may not affect them? It could just as well be the other way round and they'd want them to do well (good for the city ). Or - by far most likely - they won't allow it to influence them. If refs have a strong allegiance to one particular team, fair enough, I guess declare it and they don't ref them. Other than that we should accept referees are professionals and are not going to allow some possible connected permutation affect their real-time reffing of a match.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 23, 2024 0:42:47 GMT
What a mess. Glad my lad's doing the Copa America one š Are you going the USA for it? Haha, I wish š„² will be telly like the rest of the plebs for us
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 22, 2024 23:22:16 GMT
What a mess. Glad my lad's doing the Copa America one š
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 22, 2024 20:05:35 GMT
Sohail - "just let that go into the ethernet"
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 22, 2024 19:05:27 GMT
Inter winning. Makes no odds either way really
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 22, 2024 18:34:25 GMT
Got to remember there are 4 teams below us before you even talk about the other two going past us. Weāre safe as houses Basically all 5 teams below us (forget Huddersfield) have to outperform us, to varying degrees, over two games. It's not going to happen. That said there's a decent chance it could still go down to the last game which I'd really rather avoid
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 22, 2024 16:47:02 GMT
In absolutely no way. It's eye watering for a relegated championship GK. This board has a permanent erection for overpaying though, so I'm not too surprised I'm in a minority on this one. A million quid hasn't been eye-watering for anyone since about 1994
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 22, 2024 16:31:33 GMT
It was obvious they realised they'd dropped a bollock when they withdrew the tweet. People make mistakes.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 22, 2024 16:27:11 GMT
Ffs can you be sensible.. itās a moving, low-angle shot of the action where you canāt even see the players in question at the point the ball is played - look at the proper wide shot of the pitch with the lines on the grass, heās clearly not āmiles onsideā. All that clip shows is how deceptive a particular camera angle can be. Itās sad and itās cruel for Cov, and thereās a debate to be had about whether this is what the rule was meant for and how VAR should be applied, but unfortunately the bloke was offside. Take your first paragraph. Reverse it and your absolutely right. They use dodgy angles, never precisely when the ball is kicked. The lines are like my 3 year old has drew them with a marker pen. It's a fucking shambles and I guarantee we are in the midst of widespread corruption. Its fucking baffling people have one ounce of defense for it. That Scotland goal above is a prime example of screwing a lower team to the benefit of a larger one. On no planet would Spain have had that goal disallowed. Until its done by an independent body with over 100s of cameras proving factually its off. They can fuck right off None of this has any actual basis in evidence though, they're just flimsy accusations. It *is* done by an independent body and they *do* use multiple cameras and angles - the semi-automated version coming in next year monitors every player at something like 27 points on their body and the ball has a sensor which sends a signal 500 times a second to monitor its movement. And for every decision favouring a big team there's one that goes against them - there was even one in the same bloody game the other day - VAR could easily have overturned the Coventry penalty but that's being glossed over in favour of the conspiracy, which apparently you can "guarantee" is afoot... I'm not a huge fan of it and there are serious questions about the way it's applied, but this isn't one of them
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 22, 2024 13:39:19 GMT
Absolutely miles onside. Both staggering and sickening. Also shows how dysfunctional and inaccurate those lines are that they draw from random angles and use to make decisions. How many other VAR offside goals have been legitimate? This has to be a nail in the coffin for the way it is currently operated. The whole thing has not been thought out at all. Ffs can you be sensible.. itās a moving, low-angle shot of the action where you canāt even see the players in question at the point the ball is played - look at the proper wide shot of the pitch with the lines on the grass, heās clearly not āmiles onsideā. All that clip shows is how deceptive a particular camera angle can be. Itās sad and itās cruel for Cov, and thereās a debate to be had about whether this is what the rule was meant for and how VAR should be applied, but unfortunately the bloke was offside.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 22, 2024 12:27:31 GMT
For VAR, they should be allowed to view footage once - if its not immediately clear there's been a balls up, the on field decision stands. So we're back to what someone decides over the actually lines that show if you're offside of not . He was just a bit offside so will let it ride or not. Good idea in principle but not every decision will be interpreted the same Is the rule that needs looking at No one has really come up with a reasonable solution over the offside or not rule we currently have Exactly, the only way VAR would be changed for offsides is if the authorities around the world suddenly said āoh sorry itās not as accurate as we thought actuallyā. Which aināt gonna happen. If the tech is there to make the right decision, itās basically impossible to argue for disregarding it to introduce more subjectivity. On changing the offside law as a response to VAR, thatās also a non-starter because 99% of matches played donāt use it.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 22, 2024 12:22:44 GMT
Spot on - it's a great fucking con to keep the big six up there or thereabouts - never mind the crayon thick lines on a poxy TV screen - what about the point of release from the forward pass - no-one ever challenges at exactly what point this was deemed to be effective - you'd need a 1000 FPS facility to get that perfectly right - anyhow its a load of bollcocks and as others have said it's ruining the game for a lot of us - offside was all about preventing "goal hanging" as we used to call it and being "level" was always onside and it was always meant to favour the attacking side when it was close......now it's just looking to deny for the sake of it - and it's still fucking subjective if they have to have half a dozen folk and 6 camera angles to pour over a decision for 4 minutes or whatever - just mental. Coventry (and more widely we - the great unwashed - were robbed yesterday and the so-called magic of the cup well and truly asphyxiated - they just had to keep the shit in it at any cost ......... Absolutely spot fucking on ā¦ā¦.!!!!! I have very mixed feelings about VAR and I can see both sidesā¦ however one thing nobody has ever explained is how it supposedly benefits the big clubs, or even just attacking teams, as someone suggested earlier on. Theyāre just as likely to be on the wrong end of a marginal decision as benefit from one, I donāt understand what the argument is supposed to be
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 21:56:28 GMT
Itās Sohailās world and weāre all living in it
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 20:24:06 GMT
Boca beating River 3-1 In the cup final.
La U winning to retain their lead at the top of the Chilean league
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 19:41:35 GMT
He just looked offside, Iām just saying without VAR itās possible the move doesnāt even develop for the reasons dirtygaryās just stated above ......and THAT is the reason that VAR shouldn't exist. The flag goes up and the mental doesn't happen. The outpouring of emotions is curtailed and you don't stop being a football fan at a game for five minutes. I can certainly sympathise with that view, I just think the genie's out of the bottle now. VAR aināt gonna be scrapped so we have to learn to live with it (and hopefully improve it)
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 18:18:04 GMT
He looked well offside in real time because he was ahead of the two players nearest him. I actually think the liner may have flagged in the absence of VAR anyway But obviously you were aware of Wan-Bissaka being level with him? He just looked offside, Iām just saying without VAR itās possible the move doesnāt even develop for the reasons dirtygaryās just stated above
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 18:06:13 GMT
If itās not a clear offside by eye then the onfield decision should stick, scrap the line drawing. But then thereās the argument of what is clear? Just a slippery slope and there is no true answer Literally NO person in the country thought that goal was not a goal. Only after a pathetic, pedantic scientific review with dodgy lines was it disallowed. Any non-VAR match that is a goal, every single time. The only way that goal could have been disallowed was by VAR because it was a massively imperceptible offside that wasnāt really offside! He looked well offside in real time because he was ahead of the two players nearest him. I actually think the liner may have flagged in the absence of VAR anyway
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 18:03:46 GMT
Man Utd gk should be banned from the final That would give them an advantage though
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 17:35:46 GMT
How does VAR disproportionately benefit an attacking team?
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 17:33:11 GMT
How on earth do you adjust your tactics for VAR Villa play a very high line knowing VAR can bail them out. Or screw them over š¤·š¼āāļø one is no more likely than the other
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 17:31:00 GMT
How is it fair to have VAR in the cups. Man Utd have it in all matches and can adjust their tactics for it, whereas Cov canāt. Gutted for Cov. How on earth do you adjust your tactics for VAR
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 17:26:16 GMT
Doesnāt get much crueller than that
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 17:10:14 GMT
He was off
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 17:09:43 GMT
This is the most incredible thing Iāve ever seen
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 17:07:41 GMT
Coventry have been the better side in extra time. Just in ET it could be about 4-2
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 17:04:37 GMT
Jesus!
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 16:33:42 GMT
Never a pen he was moving his arm away from the ball. I am no shit fan but that is so wrong. He actually wasnāt. He went into the block with his arms pretty much completely outstretched. As these things go nowadays it was as blatant a case of āmaking his body unnaturally biggerā as youāll see. Clear pen.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 16:26:38 GMT
That was a fucking good penalty Kept his cool but Iām not sure Iāve ever seen a goalie as bad on pens as Onana š
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 21, 2024 16:23:54 GMT
Fucking hell!
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