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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2020 16:14:40 GMT
Will he survive his latest gaffeš¤
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 10, 2020 16:16:09 GMT
Probably not and he should know better given the training he should have been on.
But I know a lot of my older relatives think "coloured" is the PC term and not the one that shouldn' be used.
It's no defence in this case as he should know better.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2020 16:18:21 GMT
Probably not and he should know better given the training he should have been on. But I know a lot of my older relatives think "coloured" is the PC term and not the one that shouldn' be used. It's no defence in this case as he should know better. You are spot on about the older generation because I have the same issue explaining to my 81 year old Mum
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 10, 2020 16:19:55 GMT
So forget everything else he said and focus on one slip of the tongue. What a sad world we live inš
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 10, 2020 16:23:20 GMT
So forget everything else he said and focus on one slip of the tongue. What a sad world we live inš If it was one, that is. If it is fair dos. But bear in mind, this is his job, it's not the same has someone on here using the same language. He get's paid a lot of money to address these things properly.
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Post by danceswithclams on Nov 10, 2020 16:29:55 GMT
So forget everything else he said and focus on one slip of the tongue. What a sad world we live inš He should be sacked for his involvement in and encouragement of 'Project Big Picture' let alone this. The offal-faced prick.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Nov 10, 2020 16:33:33 GMT
Probably not and he should know better given the training he should have been on. But I know a lot of my older relatives think "coloured" is the PC term and not the one that shouldn' be used. It's no defence in this case as he should know better. Yet a couple of my mates who's dad is from the Caribbean call themselves coloured and half caste and it doesn't offend them at all.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 10, 2020 16:38:03 GMT
Probably not and he should know better given the training he should have been on. But I know a lot of my older relatives think "coloured" is the PC term and not the one that shouldn' be used. It's no defence in this case as he should know better. Yet a couple of my mates who's dad is from the Caribbean call themselves coloured and half caste and it doesn't offend them at all. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest tbh. I do think there is a breed of folk who just want to be offended by everything on someones behalf. Clarke though has done a triple whammy today. Racism, homophobia and sexism.
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Post by flea79 on Nov 10, 2020 16:47:51 GMT
Yet a couple of my mates who's dad is from the Caribbean call themselves coloured and half caste and it doesn't offend them at all. Doesn't surprise me in the slightest tbh. I do think there is a breed of folk who just want to be offended by everything on someones behalf. Clarke though has done a triple whammy today. Racism, homophobia and sexism. it did seem to have a whiff of father ted about it.....
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2020 17:02:10 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 10, 2020 17:20:13 GMT
So forget everything else he said and focus on one slip of the tongue. What a sad world we live inš He should be sacked for his involvement in and encouragement of 'Project Big Picture' let alone this.Ā The offal-faced prick. Yep his use of language is totally unacceptable. I dread to think what levels heād go to behind a keyboard.
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Post by hughjarse on Nov 10, 2020 17:21:19 GMT
Resigne
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2020 17:21:28 GMT
Heās gone
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Post by hughjarse on Nov 10, 2020 17:21:53 GMT
d š¤£
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 10, 2020 17:23:09 GMT
Iām not condoning any racist language here before anyone jumps down my throat.
In fact, Iāve taken my players off a Sunday league match for similar comments our black players have received before.
But having to resign is a bit much isnāt it?
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Post by walrus on Nov 10, 2020 17:23:11 GMT
Probably not and he should know better given the training he should have been on. But I know a lot of my older relatives think "coloured" is the PC term and not the one that shouldn' be used. It's no defence in this case as he should know better. Weāve almost come full circle now āpeople of colourā is a preferred term. I can understand why people get confused but fully agree that for someone in his position itās a really bad, really basic mistake to make.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Nov 10, 2020 17:32:53 GMT
Personally I think anyone who hates another person for the colour of their skin is a knuckle dragging moron.
This on the other hand this isn't racism and the fact he's lost his job is a complete overaction.
What a sad society we live in now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2020 17:33:51 GMT
Probably not and he should know better given the training he should have been on. But I know a lot of my older relatives think "coloured" is the PC term and not the one that shouldn' be used. It's no defence in this case as he should know better. Yet a couple of my mates who's dad is from the Caribbean call themselves coloured and half caste and it doesn't offend them at all. "Half caste" is awful......
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Nov 10, 2020 17:38:46 GMT
Yet a couple of my mates who's dad is from the Caribbean call themselves coloured and half caste and it doesn't offend them at all. "Half caste" is awful...... Yet he describes himself as it š¤·
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2020 17:42:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2020 17:43:35 GMT
"Half caste" is awful...... Yet he describes himself as it š¤· Good for him. As someone who grew up being called "half caste" because I was from a Burmese family on my Grandad's side I can say categorically it offends me. Just look at the actual meaning for a start: It is derived from the term caste, which comes from the Latin castus, meaning pure, and the derivative Portuguese and Spanish casta, meaning race. Terms such as half-caste, caste, quarter-caste and mix-breed were widely used by ethnographers throughout the British Empire to try to classify "the natives"It should be consigned to the dustbin of history along with the likes of the N word......
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 10, 2020 17:47:47 GMT
Personally I think anyone who hates another person for the colour of their skin is a knuckle dragging moron. This on the other hand this isn't racism and the fact he's lost his job is a complete overaction. What a sad society we live in now. Just seen it and you are spot on. People will be terrified of saying anything now if what Iāve just seen on Sky Sports is a measuring stick for having to resign. Fair enough give the guy some guidance but losing his job is very strong. Ultimately he explained why he made the comment and apologised for it. Something tells me this is a convenient way of getting rid of him. Thereās no place for racism in sport but this is a complete over reaction to someone of senior years using incorrect language.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Nov 10, 2020 17:51:01 GMT
Yet he describes himself as it š¤· Good for him. As someone who grew up being called "half caste" because I was from a Burmese family on my Grandad's side I can say categorically it offends me. Just look at the actual meaning for a start: It is derived from the term caste, which comes from the Latin castus, meaning pure, and the derivative Portuguese and Spanish casta, meaning race. Terms such as half-caste, caste, quarter-caste and mix-breed were widely used by ethnographers throughout the British Empire to try to classify "the natives"It should be consigned to the dustbin of history along with the likes of the N word...... I know what it means,just saying what my experiences were.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 10, 2020 17:51:26 GMT
Heās calling for Gary Lineker to take his role.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 10, 2020 17:51:30 GMT
Iām not condoning any racist language here before anyone jumps down my throat. In fact, Iāve taken my players off a Sunday league match for similar comments our black players have received before. But having to resign is a bit much isnāt it? In the overwhelming majority of cases I think I would agree. You can make excuses along the generational line and I've heard my own family members using the term thinking it is 'correct' and then of course context. But when you're chairman of the FA and with all the great work surrounding Black Lives Matter and the Premier Leagues own anti racism campaign he needs to be word perfect on it - especially at a parliamentary committee meeting. Honourable that he has resigned and I don't expect any malice to be held against him.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 10, 2020 17:52:00 GMT
Personally I think anyone who hates another person for the colour of their skin is a knuckle dragging moron. This on the other hand this isn't racism and the fact he's lost his job is a complete overaction. What a sad society we live in now. Just seen it and you are spot on. People will be terrified of saying anything now if what Iāve just seen on Sky Sports is a measuring stick for having to resign. Fair enough give the guy some guidance but losing his job is very strong. Ultimately he explained why he made the comment and apologised for it. Something tells me this is a convenient way of getting rid of him. Thereās no place for racism in sport but this is a complete over reaction to someone of senior years using incorrect language. āpeople will beā Iād suggest people have been for absolutely ages now and itās also the same in the workplace
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 10, 2020 17:52:05 GMT
From what I read it seems a bit harsh.
He should be conscious of the correct terms to use and not to use considering his role. But I donāt think there was any intentional malice in what he said.
The reference to ālife choiceā and homophobia seems quite ambiguous too. I think he might have been referring to people coming out as opposed to actually choosing to be gay.
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Post by ab61 on Nov 10, 2020 17:54:27 GMT
Yet he describes himself as it š¤· Good for him. As someone who grew up being called "half caste" because I was from a Burmese family on my Grandad's side I can say categorically it offends me. Just look at the actual meaning for a start: It is derived from the term caste, which comes from the Latin castus, meaning pure, and the derivative Portuguese and Spanish casta, meaning race. Terms such as half-caste, caste, quarter-caste and mix-breed were widely used by ethnographers throughout the British Empire to try to classify "the natives"It should be consigned to the dustbin of history along with the likes of the N word...... I used the term half cast many years ago. I certainly didnāt mean to offend and definitely didnāt know the history. As Iām sure neither did the people who called it you as you grew up. Maybe ignorance I donāt know. But sometimes I think people can be a bit to precious. Just for balance I have foreign parents also.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 10, 2020 17:54:59 GMT
Itāll be interesting to see who takes on the role of FA Chairman. I could see Trevor Brooking stepping up.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 10, 2020 17:57:03 GMT
Iām not condoning any racist language here before anyone jumps down my throat. In fact, Iāve taken my players off a Sunday league match for similar comments our black players have received before. But having to resign is a bit much isnāt it? In the overwhelming majority of cases I think I would agree. You can make excuses along the generational line and I've heard my own family members using the term thinking it is 'correct' and then of course context. But when you're chairman of the FA and with all the great work surrounding Black Lives Matter and the Premier Leagues own anti racism campaign he needs to be word perfect on it - especially at a parliamentary committee meeting. Honourable that he has resigned and I don't expect any malice to be held against him. He certainly shouldnāt be made into some sort of outcast. Thereās a chasm between this and what Ron Atkinson said.
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