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Post by Pugsley on Jun 22, 2023 13:12:38 GMT
Who have we 'shipped' out? Loans have left. All the players who were out of contract bar back up keepers, and pretty much all the coaching/backroom staff. I mean if that's not shipping out i'm not sure what is. Even Noah wouldn't have a boat to fit em all in! Yes, fair play.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 22, 2023 13:00:25 GMT
In truth mate it’s a shit show, it’s always the same from us “not his players”, “give him a few windows” “Rowetts fault” “Jones fault” “MON fault” boring as hell. Here and now is most important but we’re failing miserably and never have I known so many staff members to leave. Chaotic and doomed to failure 100%. AN is not capable of such a mammoth rebuild, apart from some bloke from Crewe, massive statement of intent that is It makes me laugh that people moan about how shit we have been for the last few years and yet moan like hell when we actually decide to ship out as many of the shite players and staff members as we can. Who have we 'shipped' out? Loans have left.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 22, 2023 12:57:31 GMT
Actions and results speak louder than words. Of course I'll be convinced if things end up being positive, ridiculous to say otherwise. It didn't with Pulis, did it? I agree words are largely irrelevant. I don't see the cause for deciding everything's shit until we see what the actions are though. No it didn't, I just despised him. I'm basically fed up with giving the club the benefit of the doubt year in year out.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 22, 2023 12:32:23 GMT
I'm not going to be convinced by a bloke who has more sound bites than a Tory PM. You're not going to be convinced full stop though, are you, whatever happens? It might well all turn to shit but it might all work out fine, we have no idea either way. Actions and results speak louder than words. Of course I'll be convinced if things end up being positive, ridiculous to say otherwise.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 22, 2023 12:29:32 GMT
I'm struggling to identify anything positive from what's going on down there. Martin is a snake oil salesman. Is it fair to say though that you made your mind up on day one and nothing is changing that? I'm not going to be convinced by a bloke who has more sound bites than a Tory PM.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 22, 2023 12:25:07 GMT
In truth mate it’s a shit show, it’s always the same from us “not his players”, “give him a few windows” “Rowetts fault” “Jones fault” “MON fault” boring as hell. Here and now is most important but we’re failing miserably and never have I known so many staff members to leave. Chaotic and doomed to failure 100%. AN is not capable of such a mammoth rebuild, apart from some bloke from Crewe, massive statement of intent that is Sorry, should our coaching staff be joining from Inter Milan? We don't know if it's a shitshow or not and won't until the window closes at the very earliest. I like a moan as much as the next bloke but given things could very much go either way at this point I don't see why you and others are so set on painting yourselves into a corner before a ball's been kicked? I'm struggling to identify anything positive from what's going on down there. Martin is a snake oil salesman.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 22, 2023 12:14:30 GMT
We're back to 'Irons in the Fire' territory.
Bring back Pulis and his cronies... at least you knew he was taking the piss.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 21, 2023 12:30:19 GMT
Not sure the rubbing rags we'll be signing warrant a helicopter.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 20, 2023 10:36:43 GMT
I remember Jimmy, a real class act. A friend of mine, a Stoke fanatic, never went to see Stoke after they sold him - he was that annoyed with the club! My Dad did exactly the same.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 15, 2023 11:25:18 GMT
Plots have been lost at SCFC.
Oh dear.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 13, 2023 9:19:35 GMT
The new shirt is a disaster and whatever imbecile signed it off needs firing.
I do wonder what the decision making process is around designs of new kit. I think they bus Stevie Wonder in to make the final call.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 12, 2023 8:39:57 GMT
This is what I’d love to see. A true test of a managers ability - Pep to go to somebody like Burton or Fleetwood, with no money to spend, having to truly wheel and deal and to get the best out of a limited group of players. Alternatively, a test of managerial credentials, get a lower league manager and see how they cope with half a billion pounds worth of talent and a cavalcade of monstrous egos. ...and huge expectations. Pep wins trophies, his teams play great football and he improves players.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 12, 2023 7:54:44 GMT
Most if not all recent successful managers have massive financial resources behind them. Wonder how these managers would fair at unfashionable clubs in lower leagues. Luton have achieved wonders over the last few years but the Premier League is a level I doubt they will survive in for long. This is what I’d love to see. A true test of a managers ability - Pep to go to somebody like Burton or Fleetwood, with no money to spend, having to truly wheel and deal and to get the best out of a limited group of players. Clearly not true.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 12, 2023 6:52:24 GMT
He is obviously a very good manager and he has proved this again and again and again at Barcelona, Bayern Munich and man city. Nobody flukes success , followed by success , followed by success in football. But he has massive resources to hand and someone from man city, man utd, Newcastle and Chelsea was always going to come out on top . In very different circumstances, the success of Nathan Jones and Rob Edwards at Luton town is just as dazzling, given they were relying solely on good judgement, playing smart and working hard as a team, with no financial advantage over anybody in their league at all . Pep is a top quality manager but I would love some one to come along like Brian Clough ( notts forest ) or Claudia ranieri ( Leicester) and upset the big boys , Luton style, through good judgement, great teamwork and smart play with out any financial advantage at all. That would be truly impressive. He works as hard as any manager, has amazing judgement, and his teams play smart. Just because you have more resource doesn't mean it comes easy, it doesn't. I mean, Nathan Jones????? He had more resource at Stoke and Southampton and basically shit the bed. Clough had resource at Forest... first million pound player. Successful teams spend money, always have.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 9, 2023 13:26:03 GMT
Used to be three European cups, with every team who won them more than happy to do so. I remember seeing Chelsea win the Cup Winners Cup in Stockholm and their fans were ecstatic.
A trophy is a trophy is a trophy. Jealousy is a terrible thing.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 7, 2023 19:58:41 GMT
Terrible game. Italians cynical but better than a plodding West Ham who look like they are playing for penalties.
It can only get better.
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Post by Pugsley on May 30, 2023 11:48:38 GMT
Difference in prize money v 200m? I think you might be surprised. They're not going to rest their best player in their biggest game for years having played him all season, whoever's in for him at whatever price, surely? Winning the league is about more than prize money? He was injured. Knee problem.
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Post by Pugsley on May 24, 2023 18:29:57 GMT
The raft of bad managerial appointments... A'Court, Eastham, Bates, Kamara, Lambert, Rowett Lou leaving for Celtic Kenwyne in the Cup Final Preston every Christmas.. Wasn't A'Court just a caretaker manager? I thought Rowett was a sensible appointment, didn't feel disastrous at the time (obviously it was) He was you are right. Confusing him with Bill Asprey I think. Rowett was never ever a good fit after turning us down numerous times. I can't stand the prick. I get the same feeling with Neil but time will tell.
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Post by Pugsley on May 24, 2023 18:19:04 GMT
The raft of bad managerial appointments... A'Court, Eastham, Bates, Kamara, Lambert, Rowett
Lou leaving for Celtic
Kenwyne in the Cup Final
Preston every Christmas..
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Post by Pugsley on May 24, 2023 18:16:38 GMT
Be about 1972 - my dad said do you fancy going to a football match - yes I replied wondering if it would be Old Trafford or the equally adjacent Anfield - I’ll show you where I used to stand when I used to go to Stoke was his response. It’s haunted me ever since.
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Post by Pugsley on May 22, 2023 15:22:57 GMT
i am sick and tired hearing about racism whether it's football or on the news papers etc and it's all one way no mention of it being the other way never i was called a white honky by a black lady because i caught her ankle which i duly apologise for made no difference Oh dear
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Post by Pugsley on May 19, 2023 11:39:31 GMT
Coates family up one place to 16th www.thetimes.co.uk/article/denise-john-peter-coates-net-worth-sunday-times-rich-list-h6pjwxwlt1. Gopi Hinduja and family – £35 billion 2. Sir Jim Ratcliffe – £29.7 billion 3. Sir Leonard Blavatnik – £28.6 billion 4. David and Simon Reuben and family – £24.4 billion 5. Sir James Dyson and family – £23 billion 6. Lakshmi Mittal and family – £16 billion 7. Guy, George, Alannah and Galen Weston and family – £14.5 billion 8. Charlene de Carvalho-Heineken and Michel de Carvalho – £13.1 billion 9. Kirsten and Jorn Rausing – £12 billion 10. Michael Platt – £11.5 billion 11. The Duke of Westminster and the Grosvenor family – £9.9 billion 12. Marit, Lisbet, Sigrid and Hans Rausing – £9.3 billion 13. Andy Currie – £9.2 billion 14. John Reece – £9.1 billion 15. Alex Gerko – £9.1 billion 16. Denise, John and Peter Coates and family – £8.8 billion
17. Anders Holch Povlsen £8.5 billion 18. Barnaby and Merlin Swire and family – £8.4 billion 19. John Fredriksen and family – £8.3 billion 20. Mikhail Fridman – £8.2 billion Coates family 2023 - £8795m (16th) 2022 - £8637m (17th) 2021 - £8448m (17th) 2020 - £7166m (16th) 2019 - £6856m (19th) 2018 - £5750m (21st) 2017 - £5000m (22nd) 2016 - £3765m (24th) 2015 - £2300m (44th) 2014 - £1200m (78th) 2013 - £925m (93rd) 2012 - £800m (92nd) 2011 - £750m (90th) 2010 - £500m (132nd) 2009 - £400m (128th) 2008 - £300m (270th) 2007 - £200m (351st) 2006 - £126m (442nd) Obscene
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2023 18:10:41 GMT
As complicit as anyone in our demise, maybe even more so. He should just keep his trap shut.
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2023 11:49:26 GMT
Like the rest of them, Adam can go fuck himself. Unprofessional.
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Post by Pugsley on May 11, 2023 17:50:31 GMT
Simon, Ricky and Alex... the dream team.
Christ on a bike.
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Post by Pugsley on May 10, 2023 15:52:00 GMT
Barnes and Johnson... more lazy arsed approach to recruitment. Pay over the odds for aging footballers who have a 'name' in the Championship whose better days are behind them. We'll never ever learn. We need experience though don’t we, and if we bring in them along with some younger up and comers then it’s absolutely fine. And there’s a reason Barnes has seemingly got about half the Championship after him. We need good footballers who are not going to fall off a cliff at any point or coming for one last payday. It's the approach that baffles me.
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Post by Pugsley on May 10, 2023 15:14:59 GMT
Barnes and Johnson... more lazy arsed approach to recruitment. Pay over the odds for aging footballers who have a 'name' in the Championship whose better days are behind them. We'll never ever learn.
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Post by Pugsley on May 10, 2023 14:31:16 GMT
Personally I think we should have stuck with Rowett We definitely should have given him longer. He is a good manager He's a massive bottler. Bottled it at Derby Bottled it at Stoke Just bottled it at Millwall An absolute disaster for us.
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Post by Pugsley on May 9, 2023 15:26:14 GMT
I think we all need to calm down and log off until August, the hysteria on here is unbelievable. I see this as a fresh start, I think we will have a very competitive squad next season. Fresh start doing the same shit.... We live in hope
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Baker
May 9, 2023 15:19:38 GMT
Post by Pugsley on May 9, 2023 15:19:38 GMT
Baker has the talent but none of the application required to make a good footballer. He's had more clubs than... well you know
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