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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 8, 2023 19:40:05 GMT
I am only posting this as I haven't seen any other threads congratulating that East London outfit on their awesome achievement in winning the European equivalent of the Freight River Trophy.
Congratulations you lucky bastards.
Lots of BBC coverage of this momentous victory and the associated celebrations. I heard several East End Londoners interviwed tonight and I must say that these apparent supporters of "Weeessst 'Am" have a tremendous grasp of the English language an al' that, innit. You know wat I mean!
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Post by lordb on Jun 8, 2023 19:42:40 GMT
Didn't think they were lucky
It was a penalty
they kept them out and took their big chance
Good luck to them
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 8, 2023 19:51:04 GMT
Sorry LordB. I just always regard the 'ammers as being lucky mainly because I can remember them surviving a financial crisis time after time and walking away, such as the Carlos Tevez third party ownership affair. And walking into a huge new stadium for practically nothing. There have been several times competing in the transfer market when they claim near bankruptcy, and then walk away having spent more millions on new players. Yes lucky. You couldn't meet a nicer bunch of lads this side of Hackney marshes.  |
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Post by lordb on Jun 8, 2023 19:55:54 GMT
Oh well that's a different angle
Dodgy rather than lucky
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Post by wilcopotter on Jun 8, 2023 21:05:17 GMT
Sorry LordB. I just always regard the 'ammers as being lucky mainly because I can remember them surviving a financial crisis time after time and walking away, such as the Carlos Tevez third party ownership affair. And walking into a huge new stadium for practically nothing. There have been several times competing in the transfer market when they claim near bankruptcy, and then walk away having spent more millions on new players. Yes lucky. You couldn't meet a nicer bunch of lads this side of Hackney marshes. What has Carlos Tevez have to do with last night? No fan of the Hammers myself, but fair play to ANY English side that wins a European Cup👍. Are you a keen angler? |
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Post by march4 on Jun 8, 2023 21:36:25 GMT
Didn't think they were lucky It was a penalty they kept them out and took their big chance Good luck to them It was a definite penalty according to the current rules. I’m not sure the rules are right though. |
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Post by Gods on Jun 8, 2023 21:59:07 GMT
I thought Sevilla had won this competition a week ago and did not realise there was a game on last night until I saw the air waves were full of diamond geezers 'giving it the large one' as they say.
I guess there must be 2 of these sub-Champs League competitions running now.
Who knows which, if either, is the main one...
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Post by wannabee on Jun 9, 2023 1:58:56 GMT
I thought Sevilla had won this competition a week ago and did not realise there was a game on last night until I saw the air waves were full of diamond geezers 'giving it the large one' as they say. I guess there must be 2 of these sub-Champs League competitions running now. Who knows which, if either, is the main one... I assume you must have youth on your side to not remember the origins and evolution of EUFA Cup Competitions Initially there was the Champions League which was originally reserved only for the Champions in each Country until it was extended to include e.g. in Premier League top four teams You also had the EUFA Cup now renamed the Europa Cup which was for teams that finished below the Champions Then you also had the European Cup Winners Cup for winners of Countries Primary Cup Competition this is being referred to currently as West Ham won this in 1965 their last European Trophy This was the Competition Stoke would have entered if it had not been merged to become the Europa Cup. Sadly now runners up in FA Cup no longer qualify for any European Competition only winners or League position and if Stoke were to repeat that feat would not qualify for any European Competition Last season West Ham qualified for Europa Cup by finishing 5th in Premier League and went on to the semi finals. This season having finished 6th in Premier League they qualified for the relatively new Europa Conference League Cup which was introduced to slim down the numbers in the Europa League The inaugural winners of the Europa Conference League were Roma managed by Jose Mourhino who was so chuffed he got a tattoo to celebrate the occasion. West Ham are now the current holders and as a reward qualify for Group Stages of next seasons Europa Cup HTH |
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Post by Northy on Jun 9, 2023 6:22:02 GMT
I thought Sevilla had won this competition a week ago and did not realise there was a game on last night until I saw the air waves were full of diamond geezers 'giving it the large one' as they say. I guess there must be 2 of these sub-Champs League competitions running now. Who knows which, if either, is the main one... I assume you must have youth on your side to not remember the origins and evolution of EUFA Cup Competitions Initially there was the Champions League which was originally reserved only for the Champions in each Country until it was extended to include e.g. in Premier League top four teams You also had the EUFA Cup now renamed the Europa Cup which was for teams that finished below the Champions Then you also had the European Cup Winners Cup for winners of Countries Primary Cup Competition this is being referred to currently as West Ham won this in 1965 their last European Trophy This was the Competition Stoke would have entered if it had not been merged to become the Europa Cup. Sadly now runners up in FA Cup no longer qualify for any European Competition only winners or League position and if Stoke were to repeat that feat would not qualify for any European Competition Last season West Ham qualified for Europa Cup by finishing 5th in Premier League and went on to the semi finals. This season having finished 6th in Premier League they qualified for the relatively new Europa Conference League Cup which was introduced to slim down the numbers in the Europa League The inaugural winners of the Europa Conference League were Roma managed by Jose Mourhino who was so chuffed he got a tattoo to celebrate the occasion. West Ham are now the current holders and as a reward qualify for Group Stages of next seasons Europa Cup HTH Assume you must have youth on your side as the champions league was originally called The European Cup wasn't it ? |
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Post by Northy on Jun 9, 2023 6:24:38 GMT
David Moyes in our village team clubhouse a couple of years ago when coming along to coach a juniors session   |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 9, 2023 6:25:38 GMT
I assume you must have youth on your side to not remember the origins and evolution of EUFA Cup Competitions Initially there was the Champions League which was originally reserved only for the Champions in each Country until it was extended to include e.g. in Premier League top four teams You also had the EUFA Cup now renamed the Europa Cup which was for teams that finished below the Champions Then you also had the European Cup Winners Cup for winners of Countries Primary Cup Competition this is being referred to currently as West Ham won this in 1965 their last European Trophy This was the Competition Stoke would have entered if it had not been merged to become the Europa Cup. Sadly now runners up in FA Cup no longer qualify for any European Competition only winners or League position and if Stoke were to repeat that feat would not qualify for any European Competition Last season West Ham qualified for Europa Cup by finishing 5th in Premier League and went on to the semi finals. This season having finished 6th in Premier League they qualified for the relatively new Europa Conference League Cup which was introduced to slim down the numbers in the Europa League The inaugural winners of the Europa Conference League were Roma managed by Jose Mourhino who was so chuffed he got a tattoo to celebrate the occasion. West Ham are now the current holders and as a reward qualify for Group Stages of next seasons Europa Cup HTH Assume you must have youth on your side as the champions league was originally called The European Cup wasn't it ? Indeed it was. 3 tournaments European Cup UEFA Cup Cup Winners Cup (One was named the Fairs Cup can't remember which one though?) |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jun 9, 2023 6:33:17 GMT
Assume you must have youth on your side as the champions league was originally called The European Cup wasn't it ? Indded it was. 3 tournaments European Cup UEFA Cup Cup Winners Cup (One was named the Fairs Cup can't remember which one though?) Think the Fairs Cup became the UEFA Cup, could be completely wrong with that though. |
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Post by Gods on Jun 9, 2023 6:45:01 GMT
I assume you must have youth on your side to not remember the origins and evolution of EUFA Cup Competitions Initially there was the Champions League which was originally reserved only for the Champions in each Country until it was extended to include e.g. in Premier League top four teams You also had the EUFA Cup now renamed the Europa Cup which was for teams that finished below the Champions Then you also had the European Cup Winners Cup for winners of Countries Primary Cup Competition this is being referred to currently as West Ham won this in 1965 their last European Trophy This was the Competition Stoke would have entered if it had not been merged to become the Europa Cup. Sadly now runners up in FA Cup no longer qualify for any European Competition only winners or League position and if Stoke were to repeat that feat would not qualify for any European Competition Last season West Ham qualified for Europa Cup by finishing 5th in Premier League and went on to the semi finals. This season having finished 6th in Premier League they qualified for the relatively new Europa Conference League Cup which was introduced to slim down the numbers in the Europa League The inaugural winners of the Europa Conference League were Roma managed by Jose Mourhino who was so chuffed he got a tattoo to celebrate the occasion. West Ham are now the current holders and as a reward qualify for Group Stages of next seasons Europa Cup HTH Assume you must have youth on your side as the champions league was originally called The European Cup wasn't it ? It's a funny (peculiar) thing.You had to be champions of your domestic league to enter the European Cup, however 4th place will do for the Champions League! |
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Post by wannabee on Jun 9, 2023 6:59:16 GMT
Assume you must have youth on your side as the champions league was originally called The European Cup wasn't it ? Indded it was. 3 tournaments European Cup UEFA Cup Cup Winners Cup (One was named the Fairs Cup can't remember which one though?) The Inter-City Fairs Cup or The Fairs Cup was not a EUFA competition at all it was a FIFA Competition As the name suggests it was a Tournament open only to Cities which had hosted Trade Fairs and only to Cities which had one Football Club. It was by invitation only I.e. not based on League Position Some Newcastle fans cite their win in the competition in 1968/69 as the last "Major" Trophy they won rather than go back to the 1955 FA Cup, but no serious supporter. |
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Post by wannabee on Jun 9, 2023 7:02:13 GMT
Assume you must have youth on your side as the champions league was originally called The European Cup wasn't it ? It's a funny (peculiar) thing.You had to be champions of your domestic league to enter the European Cup, however 4th place will do for the Champions League! £ € $ |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 7:37:38 GMT
Assume you must have youth on your side as the champions league was originally called The European Cup wasn't it ? It's a funny (peculiar) thing.You had to be champions of your domestic league to enter the European Cup, however 4th place will do for the Champions League! To be fair the “quite good league” doesn’t have the same ring to it. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 9, 2023 7:38:06 GMT
Indded it was. 3 tournaments European Cup UEFA Cup Cup Winners Cup (One was named the Fairs Cup can't remember which one though?) Think the Fairs Cup became the UEFA Cup, could be completely wrong with that though. Yes, that was my thinking. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 9, 2023 7:38:58 GMT
Indded it was. 3 tournaments European Cup UEFA Cup Cup Winners Cup (One was named the Fairs Cup can't remember which one though?) The Inter-City Fairs Cup or The Fairs Cup was not a EUFA competition at all it was a FIFA Competition As the name suggests it was a Tournament open only to Cities which had hosted Trade Fairs and only to Cities which had one Football Club. It was by invitation only I.e. not based on League Position Some Newcastle fans cite their win in the competition in 1968/69 as the last "Major" Trophy they won rather than go back to the 1955 FA Cup, but no serious supporter. Thanks for correcting me, memory not what it was!! |
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Post by stroller on Jun 9, 2023 7:47:47 GMT
I am only posting this as I haven't seen any other threads congratulating that East London outfit on their awesome achievement in winning the European equivalent of the Freight River Trophy. Congratulations you lucky bastards. Lots of BBC coverage of this momentous victory and the associated celebrations. I heard several East End Londoners interviwed tonight and I must say that these apparent supporters of "Weeessst 'Am" have a tremendous grasp of the English language an al' that, innit. You know wat I mean! Do I detect the slightest hint of bitterness in your post? |
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 9, 2023 8:58:15 GMT
Northy: "Assume you must have youth on your side as the champions league was originally called The European Cup wasn't it ?
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The original European Cup was the Premier European competition, and as stated was competed for by the elite clubs who were each Champions in their own right in their home countries.
The European cup was dominated by English clubs in the 70's, being won by Aston Villa, Nottingham Forest twice, and by Liverpool a few times.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 9, 2023 9:01:15 GMT
I am only posting this as I haven't seen any other threads congratulating that East London outfit on their awesome achievement in winning the European equivalent of the Freight River Trophy. Congratulations you lucky bastards. Lots of BBC coverage of this momentous victory and the associated celebrations. I heard several East End Londoners interviwed tonight and I must say that these apparent supporters of "Weeessst 'Am" have a tremendous grasp of the English language an al' that, innit. You know wat I mean! [/b] Probably. I intensely dislike London clubs in general. |
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Post by pottersrule on Jun 9, 2023 9:14:01 GMT
Indded it was. 3 tournaments European Cup UEFA Cup Cup Winners Cup (One was named the Fairs Cup can't remember which one though?) Think the Fairs Cup became the UEFA Cup, could be completely wrong with that though. Yes it was replaced by the UEFA Cup after the 1970/71 FAIRS Cup final apparently. |
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Post by dadofsam on Jun 9, 2023 10:38:09 GMT
I thought the coverage was way over the top given the low prestige of the competition and it seemed everyone in the crowd had been born in the shadows cast by the floodlights at the Boleyn Ground.
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Jun 9, 2023 11:23:36 GMT
Didn't they merge the UEFA Cup and The Cup Winners Cup to form the Europa League? As a kind of streamlining exercise. So we went from 3 competitions down to 2 and now 3 again?  |
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 9, 2023 11:53:36 GMT
Assume you must have youth on your side as the champions league was originally called The European Cup wasn't it ? Indeed it was. 3 tournaments European Cup UEFA Cup Cup Winners Cup (One was named the Fairs Cup can't remember which one though?) Aahhh the good old days........ crackling wireless, listening to Eintracht Frankfurt play Bruges on a Wednesday night and then if I was a good lad, mum would let me stay up and watch Sportsnight. Now its Rubin Kazan v Ludogrets or whatever.... Bring back the WINNERS of the respective European leagues for the European Cup I say ! (Never happen though)  |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 9, 2023 11:57:50 GMT
Indeed it was. 3 tournaments European Cup UEFA Cup Cup Winners Cup (One was named the Fairs Cup can't remember which one though?) Aahhh the good old days........ crackling wireless, listening to Eintracht Frankfurt play Bruges on a Wednesday night and then if I was a good lad, mum would let me stay up and watch Sportsnight. Now its Rubin Kazan v Ludogrets or whatever.... Bring back the WINNERS of the respective European leagues for the European Cup I say ! (Never happen though) Kaiserslauten v Stoke away on the radio...legendary! |
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Post by Los Alfareros on Jun 9, 2023 11:59:09 GMT
I thought the coverage was way over the top given the low prestige of the competition and it seemed everyone in the crowd had been born in the shadows cast by the floodlights at the Boleyn Ground. Indeed, I turned on the telly yesterday, and it was like West Ham had won the world cup for a second time!! |
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Post by ihaveadream on Jun 9, 2023 12:02:00 GMT
Baroness Belgravia will probably become even more snooty.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 9, 2023 12:10:06 GMT
Is it just a reinvention of the Intertoto Cup? I remember Chelsea playing mid-90's in the snow against Tromso or someone like that, and I'm sure that the Intertoto was the Cup Winners Cup of the 1990's.
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Post by jokker on Jun 9, 2023 12:29:05 GMT
I thought Sevilla had won this competition a week ago and did not realise there was a game on last night until I saw the air waves were full of diamond geezers 'giving it the large one' as they say. I guess there must be 2 of these sub-Champs League competitions running now. Who knows which, if either, is the main one... The Europa League is definitely the bigger of the two, because 1) the winner qualifies for a Super Cup game vs Inter in August 2) the winner qualifies for next season's Champions League, even if that team, theoretically, were relegated from the countrys first disision (which hasn't happened yet, but it will one day). |
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